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Aalsi, don’t expect a reply from “Pakistanis” that don’t know anything about Pakistan. 
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Ofcourse they don’t. As soon as you show them facts which they can’t refute, they run. 
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And yet we are constantly treated to replies from you!
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Pakpatriot is in denial. It's as if he woke up to Pakistani politics in 1999. Before he barely knew Pakistan existed.
The problem my friend, is that there were never checks and balances in the system... I support checks and balances..
This isnt about denial, its about politics... If you dont understsand the basics of democracy and how one functions, then you need to return to your studies...
A PM, that is going out of control has to be accountable to other branches of the govt, if it gets to the point where the PM refuses to accpet the decission of the SC, then that is a situation where the govt needs to be removed by force and a new election called...
The reason that NS went beyond the limits is that institutions within the country are not allowed to evolve and there arrise imbalances within the system... The Supreme Courts role in Pakistan can help remedy some issues, because it would balance the powers within the state..
Thats ultimately why Mush called the emergency, so as to not allow any balamce within the system and to destroy any checks and balances.
In the end, Democracy has to be allowed to continue, even with NS... Things have to be worked out democraticaly not through military dictatorship under one man who's incompetance has brought the country to its worst point.
Why is something so basic so alien to you? You obviously dont know anything beyond Karachi, everything you say is contrdiction, so why do you pretend?
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Ofcourse they don't. As soon as you show them facts which they can't refute, they run. :)
Aalsi, I dont like to debate kids in High school... The fact is that beyond your pointless single line rantings, you have nothing worth readin or replying to...
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They are fighting the war against evil in Swat and FATA in case you forgot to notice. But that's right, on orders from jihadi overlord Immy, you are also against that as well as the lal masjid operation. You people were the ones also crying against the operations going against the terrorists.
Hope they fight the evil of the MQM next... Another 95' is whats called for:)
After Mush is gone, you people will be left high and dry again... No more looting and plundering for you:)
We all supported Lal Masjid and we all supported the operation against terrorists.. But what we dont support is attacking the LAWYERS, THE MEDIA AND THE SUPREME COURT...
Unlike you, we support the state of Pakistan, not the ambitions of one man...
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Personally, I don't care what style of government we have, as long as there is stability, and the vast majority of Pakistan accept the government.
It could be, communist, theocratic, democratic, socialist...doesn't matter, as long as it's bringing stability and is accepted by Pakistanis. I don't care wheather the world accepts the government as long as Pakistani's do.
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Aalsi, I dont like to debate kids in High school... The fact is that beyond your pointless single line rantings, you have nothing worth readin or replying to...
paKpatriot1 bhaijan. Can you disprove what the high school kid wrote in a reply to you. I believe it was more than one line. :)
You are obviously not aware of what NS did.
1) He removed all the Presidential powers under the *13th Amendment to the constitution. *
2) NS the stormed the Supreme Court, and had the CJ overthrown, the President was powerless to do anything at that time. Infact, President Leghari had to resign because he was had no Constitutional Powers to do anything against NS and his govt.
3) The only constitutional route to stop NS was the Parliament, but NS had passed the 14th Amendement to the Constitution which barred members parliament from speaking against their own party leaders, let alone vote against the govt.
paKpatriot1 bhaijan, let this be a lesson to you in Pakistani politics. You should not assume what people know or don't know. Carryon searching on google if you want to refute any of the above. Good hunting. :)
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Aalsi, 1) was done through the parliaments approval legally, even Benazir supported him, since Article 52-B was introduced by Zia in the cosnt. to keep a check on the PM, and we all know what a farce it was. 1) was a GREAT move, sadly Musharraf put it back into place, because hes following the footsteps of Zia.
3) Atleast it had the parliaments approval unlike 'someone's favourite method of passing bills'.
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Aalsi, 1) was done through the parliaments approval legally, even Benazir supported him, since Article 52-B was introduced by Zia in the cosnt. to keep a check on the PM, and we all know what a farce it was. 1) was a GREAT move, sadly Musharraf put it back into place, because hes following the footsteps of Zia.
3) Atleast it had the parliaments approval unlike 'someone's favourite method of passing bills'.
So basically, you are saying that NS through a thoroughly rigged and discredited election of 1997, which PPP largly boycotted and which had the lowest turnout in history of Pakistan, NS obtained an artificial majority which he used to remove all the constitutional checks and balances on his power. That made NS the most dictatorial leader todate, and that is why all the political parties united against NS and wlecomed his overthrow by the great President Musharaf in 1999.
President Musharaf restored all the checks and balances which NS had removed, and gave elected memebers of Parliament to freely voice their opinions again. This was all validated by over 2/3 majority of the elected parliament under the 17th Amendment.
Also, let us not forget the last parliament was the first in the history of Pakistan complete its full 5 year term, and the participation of many all political parties - both pro govt and in the opposition.
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Dictator lovers lecturing others about democracy
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Did you read that in a ‘Will’. 
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So basically, you are saying that NS through a thoroughly rigged and discredited election of 1997, which PPP largly boycotted
No they didnt boycott it, or largely boycott it... Stop lying...
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and which had the lowest turnout in history of Pakistan, NS obtained an artificial majority which he used to remove all the constitutional checks and balances on his power. That made NS the most dictatorial leader todate, and that is why all the political parties united against NS and wlecomed his overthrow by the great President Musharaf in 1999.
President Musharaf restored all the checks and balances which NS had removed, and gave elected memebers of Parliament to freely voice their opinions again. This was all validated by over 2/3 majority of the elected parliament under the 17th Amendment.
Also, let us not forget the last parliament was the first in the history of Pakistan complete its full 5 year term, and the participation of many all political parties - both pro govt and in the opposition.
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I dont have time to respond to all the lies you post, but please stop converting musharraf's illegit koora-karkat into roses.
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No they didnt boycott it, or largely boycott it... Stop lying...
I dont have time to respond to all the lies you post, but please stop converting musharraf's illegit koora-karkat into roses.
LOL. So, you cannot counter the following truth. :D
*So basically, you are saying that NS through a thoroughly rigged and discredited election of 1997, which PPP largly boycotted and which had the lowest turnout in history of Pakistan, NS obtained an artificial majority which he used to remove all the constitutional checks and balances on his power. That made NS the most dictatorial leader todate, and that is why all the political parties united against NS and wlecomed his overthrow by the great President Musharaf in 1999.
President Musharaf restored all the checks and balances which NS had removed, and gave elected memebers of Parliament to freely voice their opinions again. This was all validated by over 2/3 majority of the elected parliament under the 17th Amendment.
Also, let us not forget the last parliament was the first in the history of Pakistan complete its full 5 year term, and the participation of many all political parties - both pro govt and in the opposition.*