Demeaning Nick Names disallowed!

Bismillah Arahman Niraheem: May Allah Guide us all!

Please do not use bad nick names for words Like “Islam, Pakistani, Fatima” or for that matter any Name that people hold in high esteem!

Check this out for yourself our Holy Quran teaches us about this very subject in Surah Hujjaraat Ayat #11:

يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا لَا يَسْخَرْ قَومٌ مِّن قَوْمٍ عَسَى أَن يَكُونُوا خَيْرًا مِّنْهُمْ وَلَا نِسَاء مِّن نِّسَاء عَسَى أَن يَكُنَّ خَيْرًا مِّنْهُنَّ وَلَا تَلْمِزُوا أَنفُسَكُمْ وَلَا تَنَابَزُوا بِالْأَلْقَابِ بِئْسَ الاِسْمُ الْفُسُوقُ بَعْدَ الْإِيمَانِ وَمَن لَّمْ يَتُبْ فَأُوْلَئِكَ هُمُ الظَّالِمُون] (49:11)
Baset- Hussari- [Minshawi

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49:11**(Y. Ali)** O ye who believe! Let not some men among you laugh at others: It may be that the (latter) are better than the (former): Nor let some women laugh at others: It may be that the (latter are better than the (former): Nor defame nor be sarcastic to each other, nor call each other by (offensive) nicknames: Ill-seeming is a name connoting wickedness, (to be used of one) after he has believed: And those who do not desist are (indeed) doing wrong.

I know Mirch has a thread about this also…this is to support Mirch’s argument

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Yup Islamabad is not Islo and Fatima is not Phatty or Faty or Fati.
I do abbreviate names and words but try to make sure that they do not turn into something demeaning.

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Mirch, I read the post by saagar, so how is 'isloo' demeaning and offensive?

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No one call Spock by demeaning nicknames such as spockie, spoke, spooky anymore.

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I am also surprise .. short form of a name is not demeaning, in fact it shows more love and affection .. If I call Mirch .. Mirchoo .. or someone calls me Tilloo .. that shows closeness than insult ..

I am confused now

Exactly, if you read sagar's post, it clearly states that 'offensive' names, or names meant in an offensive way should be considered wrong. Take fati or isloo, they are hardly offensive or demeaning.

Please read my post again. I said I also use abbreviations and nicks for name but I make sure that the name does not turn something into demeaning.
Like I will not call Fatima , Fati , Fatee , Phatee , etc. But surely I call Adnan as ad-doo.

how is that demeaning ?

It will mean moti. :hmmm:
Fatima in itself is a beautiful name why change it ?

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No .. Phat (pronounced Fat) stand for "Pretty Hot and Tempting" in street lingo, so its actually a compliment ...

So is Adnan.

I think its simple, sometimes people colloquially do it, but do not mean it in an offensive manner at all. I see no problems with that.

That has nothing to do with the quote Sindsagar posted. The point is that demeaning/offensive names aren’t allowed, which is agreeable.

Who’s saying all nicknames of Islamic names are offensive?

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shortening a name is not offensive unless you use it in a context in which you intentionally are trying to offend someone. It's about your intention really.

Calling Fatima (the member) fati or phati or phats are names of endearment IMO. now if she takes offense to it and I continue to call her by that name...then it would be considered offensive.

I would nvr call mirch a paki because he would consider it offensive....however I wouldnt have a problem calling TLK a paki since he knows that I am not trying to offend him (and he is proud to be a paki anyway lol).

:jhanda:

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Angel Eyes, I love the example you have given. However, everyone knows TLK's nickname is 'dushman' not Paki. Even his voti uses it. :D

if you call me dushman with the same love and affection that my voti has for me then I have no problem you calling me that :p

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LOL @ voti

Now I wouldn't call milly a mirpuran cos she takes offense even though everyone knows she is one and proud of it too

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PS: just thought of a new nickname for phatima: phateechur

Wishful thinking on a Thursday is not good Dushman, not good at all. :snooty:

u people must really hate txt msg..:halo: