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I am being honest. This is wrong.
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its an opinion, you may agree or not agree that is your prerogative, but that does not make it right or wrong. Final judgement lies with only one, Almighty Allah, we can only pray and try to be on the right side.
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Well for me
the right side is with the Sunnah.
And the Sunnah states something else which is totally against what you posted…
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^^ but sunnah is not Islam, otherwise those who are not sunni would not be muslim......so to be general, and include all muslim point of view Quran rules, inshallah
don't forget that basic logical principle crescent: a part can never describe the thing it is coming from....the whole rules over the part, the genenral rules over the exception....by stating the right side is on the Sunnah....you're excluding Quran....and that is not fair to say the least
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Those who don’t follow Sunnah, are declared by the prophet pbuh as non muslims. Its that simple.
You can’t be amuslim if you don’t follow the Sunnah of the Prophet pbuh.
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***Quran **is full of commands from Allah swt.
**Sunnah **is in a way, elaboration of those commands, and how they should be carried out.
Sunnah is not distinct from the Quran entirely.
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…not distinct:eek: …hmm can i have your sources please?
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Once again u r asserting a persoal opinion and making incorrect assumptions.
You are making statements based on your gut, simply stating u follow Sunnah does not make u right/wrong nor can u make the incorrect assumption that others do not follow Sunnah.
I can say the same thing for your views: Your understanding on Hijab are wrong based on what the Holy Prophet taught us
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LQ i am gona make it simple-
Why do we wear scarf or dupata to cover our head when we are praying namaz. Its obligatory for us to do that not for men..
why ?
how do you feel ugly wearing hijab?
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Ok. Now let me go through your post. :) fartguru..
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According to historians and religious scholars such as Karen Armstrong, Bernard Lewis, Dr Fazlur-Rehman (late), Fatimma Mehrinissi to name a few, Muslim world of the Prohpet did not exercize Hijab as practiced today. It was the Byzantine Christian's who practiced Hijab representing a status symbol where upper classes kept their women in cover projecting a symbol of superiority. When Muslims interacted with these people another 100years after the prophets passing, they too adopted these standards.
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If the above of what you posted (which is totally false, and ANY ullema-e-haqq will tell you it is.) Or any sane rational muslim.
THen why would the Quran mention the following?
The Noble Qur'an declares:
"Oh Prophet! Tell your wives and your daughters a*nd the women of the*
believers to draw their cloaks (veils) all over their bodies (i.e. screen
themselves completely except the eyes or one eye to see the way). That will
be better, that they should be known (as free respectable women so as not to
be annoyed." (Ahzaab 59)
Referring to the wives (Radhiallaahu Anhunna) of Rasulullah (Sallallaahu
Alayhi Wasallam) warns the men:
"And when you ask (His ladies) for anything you want, ask them from behind a
curtain: that makes for greater purity for your hearts and theirs." (Ahzaab
33:53)
Hadhrat Aaisha (Radhiyallaahu Anha) says, '(during Hajj in the state of
Ihraam) when the male should walk in front of us while in the company of
Rasulullah (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam), then we would drop our veils from
the head over the face.'
This Hadith emphatically shows the manner adopted by the honoured wives of
Rasulullah (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam). They have exemplified an extremely
dignified way of life for the women of the Ummah.
Wait..u must be asking...There was no hijaab practiced in the Prophet's time, so why is Aisha radhiyallahu Anha practicing it?
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Quranic text which talks about Hijab or Jaluba refers to very particular situations and Holy Prophet's wives and daughters. There is a difference of opinion on interpertations of verses which relates to the subject of Jaluba, Yusuf Ali has a different explanation compared to other Tafaseers. Please do read Yusuf Ali's explanation.
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For those of you having a hard time understanding, and concur that FOLLOWING SUNNAH IS NOT NECESSARY...you need a wakeup call.
Whatever Allah swt commanded in the Quran, the Prophet pbuh did an example of in his life that we should look upon.
WHen his wives and daughters did pardah, then you guys think its ok for us to not do it? cuz we're not his wives and sisters?
Furthermore, the Noble Qur'an declares in Sura Nur verse 31,** that the**
believing women 'should not display their beauty and ornamentation' except
to their husbands and immediate family (Mahrams).
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it was a gradual process, even the message itself was delivered *in a way and language which the people of that particular region could understand and comprehend. *
One should focus on gist of the message.
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So when Allah swt and his messenger say that they have completed the deen for this ummah, they were technically wrong because everyone was confused and didn't understand the message..not only that but they got their info from ''gist of the message'' that they understood.???? Yeah . ok :)
This is the last post I will make on this. If you still think Following Sunnah is wrong. THen you don't need to reiterate your stand.
I don't have time to tell people that Quran and Sunnah should be followed. My Prophet pbuh **CLEARLY **completed that message and lesson for me 1500 years ago.
Also these activists you follow for example Fatima Mernissi, these are those people that interpret Quran and HAdith on their own, and mislead MANY muslims astray.
MAy Allah guide us all and have Mercy upon us.
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^ Nice. This should remove many doubts.
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^^ actually it brings even more doubts....where did he find that body means face?
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You need to be more elaborate if you want me to answer your query.
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in this statement you equal body to body + head, as a scientist i have to confess i fail to see the logic of that equation…
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That it self has an elaborated answer, you can pick up books of many Fuqhis to answer that.
This is a statement in the Quran, and like i said, it has an indepth meaning, which we don’t need to get into, because that is another 4-5 page commentary itself.
If you have right aqeedah, you believe Allah’s word as they are without questioning.
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dead can’t be seen
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dear noor.
without any prejudice and with all respect. Just for curiosity, do you think face is included in the beauty of a woman?
Having said this i do think a face without make-up or any other enhancement, if uncovered is OK. That's my opinion. Also nothing wrong having a pretty face inside the house to look at..both husband or wife's face :)
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For further information...please read Post #11 of mine.
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Hijab in the west has become the wearing of scarf on head (though hijab has broader meaning than that…).
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I think it is the differences in actually what women need to cover / not cover to be decent which is the main debate in the issue…
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