Re: Debate over the Prophets Passing (PBUH)
Brother, I did tell you in my last post that what I wrote is according to Sunni beliefs. I also told you that please do not try to judge our beliefs on Anthropomorphist** (**Mujassami) beliefs of Wahabi. Anyhow, since you are insisting … let me give you vivid differences on Muslim belief and Wahabi belief (from what I know). Also why a Wahabi may consider what I wrote is blasphemy, though what I wrote is neither blasphemy nor kufr according to Muslim beliefs. Now, let me clear your query in three steps.
Step 1: Some of Wahabi beliefs compared to Sunni beliefs. I am mentioning this, as it is needed to clear your query.
Step 2: what I wrote about ‘Urs’ is Sunni belief, with references.
Step 3: Why a person having wahabi belief of Anthropomorphist may not be able to digest Sunni beliefs (Urs) and would consider such belief blasphemy?
Step 1: Some of the differences between Sunni and Wahabi beliefs.
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Sunnis
Wahabis
Differences
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Sunni believe that Allah is everywhere, has no body, form (physical or whatever), place, or direction, free from time and space. Position and state of Allah is constant (never changes), nor depends on Allah creating anything or not.
The way Allah was, Allah is, and Allah will be. For Allah past, present and future is same.
For Sunnis, throne of Allah is power he has over his creation. Sitting on throne (Astawa on kursi) is metaphorical (just like one says, a king sat on throne)
Wahabis are Anthropomorphist (Mujassami) who believe that Allah has hands, legs, eyes, fingers, face, foot, etc … in other words, has form just like human … or Allah created humans in his own image … or humans are born in image of Allah (Nauzobillah)
For Wahabis, state of Allah changes (that means, his past, present and future is not same). Allah depends on what Allah created (for instance, once he created throne, he sat on throne).
Wahabis beliefs came from Abdul Wahab following Ibn Tamiya, according to whose statement and thinking, if one says that Allah has no physical body, then one has decided that there is no God, because the existence cannot be true without physical feature (for Sunnis this belief in itself is kufr). Ibn Tamiya was sent to Prison on charges of heresy (he was arrested and convicted of preaching heretic beliefs).
(Most vital)
2
Sunnis believe that Prophet (SAW) and Saints would be given permission from Allah to intercede on judgment day, and Allah would accept their intercession.
Wahabis do not believe on intercession.
(Most vital)
3
Sunnis consider many things mentioned in Quran that contradicts other Quranic clear ayahs, as metaphorical and allegorical.
Wahabis take most things mentioned in Quran, especially regarding Allah, as literal.
(Most Vital)
4
Sunnis believe that Prophets (AS) are born Prophets and they know that. Prophets (AS) does not go through any test nor can do any sin. They (AS) are created for the purpose of reminding people what people already promised Allah before their birth.
Prophets (AS) declares their prophet-hood when Allah wants them to. Whatever Prophets (AS) did in this world is just for consumption of people, who learn or get guided from Prophets’ life.
Wahabis consider Prophets (AS) just like any human being, whom Allah chose to be Prophet, and that they do not have any inherent special status above humans.
(Vital)
5
Sunnis show extra special care and respect towards Prophet (SAW) and towards saints.
Wahabis consider Prophet (SAW) a human who one can praise as a guided human being. Saints have no meaning.
(Vital)
6
Sunnis believe that one can ask Allah directly or using Prophet (SAW) and Saints (pious people) as intermediaries. Though preferred method is asking through intermediaries.
Sunnis also consider that it is better if one recites Darood on Prophet (SAW), before asking from Allah anything.
Wahabis do not believe in using name of Prophet (SAW) or pious individuals as intermediaries when asking Allah, and consider this practice as shirk or polytheism.
(Vital)
7
Sunnis consider takfeer (declaring Muslims as kafir … for whatever reason) as biggest sin that would lead a person to hell.
Wahabis do takfeer all the time, right, left and centre … and consider takfeer as their right.
(Vital)
8
Sunnis do not use ayahs in Quran on Muslims that is meant for Kuffars.
Wahabis use Quranic ayahs meant for Kuffars on Muslims.
(Vital)
9
Sunnis celebrate Eid-e-Milad-ul-Nabi, a form of gathering where people jointly remember, praise and celebrate day Prophet (SAW) was born.
Even though Sunnis show love and remembrance towards Prophet (SAW) every day, Sunnis consider Eid-e-Milad-ul-Nabi as special occasion for showing love and respect for Prophet (SAW).
Wahabi do not believe in celebrating Eid-e-Milad-ul-Nabi … rather they oppose it using all tricks they have (including violence), calling it wrongful, innovation and sinful.
(Important)
10
Sunnis commemorate the day Saints and known religious personalities died with dedication and enthusiasm, calling that day as Urs.
Wahabis call/consider these practices (Urs) as unlawful, wrongful innovations, shirk or polytheism, doing propaganda that Sunnis got it from Hindus.
(Important)
11
Sunnis do not believe that death means end, rather it is movement from this world to next (inteqal), where Ruh are alive, can see us, can listen to us, and can pray for us.
Alam-e-Barzakh = world beyond curtain (world that we cannot see, though they can see us)
Sunnis visit mausoleums, tombs, shrines of saints, and consider graves as doorway between this world and next.
Sunnis ask saints at their mausoleums to pray for them, and believe saints’ tawassul for the blessings of Allah.
Wahabis consider this believe of Sunnis as great sin.
For Wahabis, once a person is dead, he in any form is no more there, thus a dead person can do nothing, not even pray for anyone.
(Important)
12
Sunnis believe on Saints and Sufis, and believe on healing powers of taweez coming from pious saints
Wahabis do not believe on saints, or on taweez.
13
Sunnis follow fiqah or Islamic laws given by one of 4 imans Hanfi, Hanbali, Malaki and Shafi.
Wahabis do not follow fiqah of Sunni Imams though claim they follow Imam Hanbal. Wahabis mostly follow Wahabi sheikh.
14
Sunni beliefs are taken from Quran, Sunnah of Prophet (SAW), and what later generation followed.
Wahabis take their teaching from understanding of Abdul Wahab, who was follower of Ibn Tamiya. Though Wahabi make tall claims that they follow Quran and Sunnah.
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Sunnis believe that Prophets (AS) know about their prophet-hood, their duty, and also shareet (if) they came with, from birth.
Prophets (AS) forgetting the purpose they were created from birth or at any time, means they themselves needs reminding (later in their life), and thus it would be flaw in them as well as flaw in their creation, that is impossible, as Allah creating them for a purpose, and Allah is flawless
Though there are many other differences in aqeedah (beliefs) of Sunnis and Wahabis, I have put down some. From what I put down, one can see where they stand … that is, they have Sunni or Wahabi (Ahle-hadith or Salafi) beliefs.
Step 2: ‘Urs’ is Sunni belief. Sunnis commemorate this event related to various saints, all over Sunni world. References as follows.
Urs of Maulana Rumi (RA) in Kunya … Turkey:
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Mevlana Rumi’s Urs takes place between 9-13th December every year in Konya, which is key event for this beautiful small city. The Turkish word Mevlana is a derivation from Arabic/Persian Maulana, which means ‘our master’. The word Urs is a derivation from the Persian word Uroos, which means a Bride. Urs is celebrated on the day saints or sufis passed away to unite with their Lord, thus calling it the night of wedding or companionship.
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(Actually, as far as I know, Urs is arabic word, though may have passed into Persian too)
Rumi’s “Wedding Night”
by Ibrahim Gamard, 12/98 (revised 12/00, 11/02, 12/08)
The night of December 17, is the (solar) anniversary of the death of Jalâluddîn Rûmî, who died in 1273 in Konya, Turkey (which for many centuries had been known as “Rûm,” the Anatolian peninsula long ruled by “Rome,” meaning the Eastern Roman, and then Byzantine, Empire). The observance of the anniversary of a sufi saint is called (in Arabic), **urs, which means "wedding," because the saint is believed to have attained "union" (or utmost nearness together with other saints and the prophets) with God, the Only Beloved.** The urs of a sufi saint is normally celebrated according to the Islamic lunar calendar (according to which Rumi died on 5 Jumâdî II 672 AH-- occurring next on the evening preceding April 15, 2013, then April 5, 2014, then March 25, 2015). However, due to the Westernization of the calendar in Turkey, Rumi’s `urs has been celebrated on the equivalent solar calendar date, not only in Turkey, but in many Western countries.
Urs of Abdul Qadir Jillani (RA) … Iraq:
http://timetraveltours.co.za/Iraq.htm
Urs of Data Ganj Bakhsh Syed Ali Hajvery (RA) … Pakistan:
http://www.dawn.com/news/903666/the-urs-of-data-ganj-bakhsh
Urs of Khawja Moin-ud-din Chushti (RA) … India:
http://www.demotix.com/news/2063420/celebration-largest-muslims-urs-festival-india#media-2063080
‘Urs’ date of various religious personalities: