dealing with muslim women marrying non-muslims

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for those asking why have i come to a forum? perhaps i am just frustrated and i need someone to talk to, since i dont have that for the past couple of months, and i just feel lost. talking to God is nice, but sometimes one needs a verbal response and a dialog too. i am human.

psyah asked why i need an Imam to do a nikkah when i am going against one ruling of islam .. i am not against islam, in fact, that is one thing i am holding onto after losing practically everything. all my relations are broken, except for the one with God. i have been through quite a troublesome period when at my parents home. it was verbally abusive, and at times also physically. my parents put an impression of themselves as being THE muslims. for me, they are nothing islamic. just praying doesnt make them muslims. by not wanting to marry a muslim, i am not trying to or deliberately wanting to go against islam either. it's just happens that trying out with muslim men has only further damaged me. and now the idea of being with a muslim man is very repulsive to me.

where i dont find myself in tune with the Quran, i challenge that. i want to find a meaning that doesnt push me away. i dont want to be like those people who quitely accept what is because that's how it's been told. i dont like the idea that Quran ijtihad stopped centuries ago. because that is against the idea that it is a Book for all times and ages.

i am not with someone as of now. i dont have anyone around me for that matter. it is a struggle with myself. not wanting to be with a muslim vs being muslim. its mind boggling. it's difficult. difficult enough for me to just quit sometimes.

and Zobia. i just have to smile at your comment really.

thank you lil_ash .. i have a similar feeling that marrying outside of islam is not advisable, but not haram either. and if i find myself in this situation, then i wouldnt be doing anything wrong. the only problem is, when we say ultimately we have to face God ... unfortunately, before i even get to God, i have a number of people in the way as well ... like zobia and firenze ... who only keep making it difficult.

thank you thejoke. only if i would have such feedback in real life as well.

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^If you dont have anyone to talk to, then you should first try to find a man who you can get married to and then worry about his reigion.

Good luck.

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emaanw you'll have to forgive your parents because if you dont youve probably got too much pride to submit to The Allmighty (swt) aswell. it maybe the case you'll have accept your own faults inorder to re-address the situation. genuine tauba maybe the way forward for you. to live without your parents is going to be struggle whether your with a muslim or not.

the back of the mind is where the comfort of a good relationship with parents sits, if its not there then you'll always, always be unsteady, liable to breakdown.

as a practicing muslim you'll find it easier to repair/route your life. believe me if you make a pledge to Allah swt and seek help, you will be helped, a lil effort from you and you'll be there with barkat

well actually youve already been blessed with an opportunity to re-align yourself with deen, so you must have been praying or asking Allah ajjawazal for help before

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if you dont follow the rules of ALLAH get out of HIS property. u are tresspassing.

Allah said no muslim women can marry a non-muslim. ok . end of conversation. no discussion allowed. you are meant to obey and follow ..NOT QUESTION.

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i didnt said anything bad. all i said to keep these jewel of wisdom for his/her off-springs. :)

lemme quote an ayat of Quran for you. Surah Al-Baqarah ayat 221

"And do not marry Al-Mushrikat (idolatresses, etc.) till they believe (worship Allah Alone). And indeed a slave woman who believes is better than a (free) Mushrikah (idolatress, etc.), even though she pleases you. And give not (your daughters) in marriage to Al-Mushrikun till they believe (in Allah Alone) and verily, a believing slave is better than a (free) Mushrik (idolater, etc.), even though he pleases you. Those (Al-Mushrikun) invite you to the Fire, but Allah invites (you) to Paradise and Forgiveness by His Leave, and makes His Ayat (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.) clear to mankind that they may remember."

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stop listening to mullahs, and recite Surah Al-Maidah with translation and tafseer. if ALLAH SWT wants, he will give you the answer for your mojito.

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my mojito is 100% halal, I need no answers.

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Firstly, that verse mentions only marriage to Mushriks (ie idolaters only, not 'people of the book') and secondly of course it applies equally to men and women.

To the op, I think the confusion arises cos whilst Muslim men have been given that explicit permission to marry 'women of the book' Muslim women haven't tho I don't think there is any specific mention of it so I guess some people argue that because it hasn't been mentioned it must be haram. There is also the opposite opinion that because there doesn't seem to be any Qur'anic verse specifically forbidding it it must be ok..

I do know there have been fatwas declaring marriages between Muslim women and non-Muslim men haram and the reasoning specifically being the non-Muslim man having supposedly more influence on the household and the apparent likelihood of the kids being brought up as non-Muslim but even when these fatwas have been declared there have been no Qur'anic references specifically mentioning marriage to men 'of the book' being forbidden to back them up.

Imo people declare it as haram to 'be on the safe side' which I guess is a little iffy when u consider it tends to be mainly issues concerning women where the 'strictest' route is taken as being the right one.. Anyway, am sure this issue will be debated a lot more in years to come, at the moment it seems a bit too sensitive (think how 'scandalous' it still is amongst so many Muslims just to let their daughters even choose their own Muslim husband rather than parents choose and she just goes along with it, let alone entertain the idea of her ever marrying a non-Muslim)..

(And before anyone jumps down my throat I am neutral on the issue, not for or against and no, I'm not marrying a non-Muslim)

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**Acha jahan merdon k akoi masla hota hai keh daity hain. Khas ijazat nahi di gai tu mana bhi tu nahi kiya giya is liey jaiz hai. Ab Quan main manna tu nahi kiya giya na??? **
Baqi agar yeh liya jaey ke Ahl-e-kitab aurton se kaha giya hai merdon se nahi. Tu Loot ilahey salam ki qaom ko tabah kiy agiya ke merd merdon se jinsi taluqaat rakhty they. Ab hamrey han aurat ka aurat se taluq bhi bura samjha jata hai as MUSLIMS:D So is fatwey ki ro se aurton ko aurton se jinsi taluqat se manna nahi kiya giya sirf merdon ko kiyagiya hai aur woh ab bhi baz nahi attey.
Tu Mullani/Muftani GN ka fatwa hai ke jab MUSLIM merdon ke gunah ghaltian Allah muaf kery ga tu Aik Muslaman aurat ko agar koi Isai ya yahudi merd aik Muslim bewry/jwey baz sitty baz aur ZANI Muslim se se behter koi isai lageymiley tu woh os se shadi ker ke hansi khushi zindagi guzar sakti hai hell with Ulaama and their insecurity about a Woman:p
**Jitney apney Muslim insecure hain na apni bivion ke maley main main ny koi nahi sunna:D
Zani hai tu kiya Muslman nahi??? Ji han unless allah faisla kery aap zani ko bhi daira -e-islam se kharij nai ker sakty apney Ulamma ke anosar
I just mean a Muslim is zani sharabi jwari why a Muslim woman has to select him?aisey nnaam ke Muslaman ko Isai ya Yhoodi per kiya tarjeeh ha? Why she should prefer him? Jusyt because he is namm ka musalman??:d:D:D:Dcool:hehe:
**

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honey thats the reason why we are on this website, to share our "jewels of wisdom/opinion." your attitude in that post was clearly rude. and by Al-mushrikat they mean idolatresses as you quoted, christians and jews actually believe in only one God, they are Ahle-qitab.

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Quran is here because of the fact that people amended the holy books, which came prior to Quran.

currently, Christianity, and Judaism are not present in their original form. We have even amended Islam in every possible shape that is why these days we see so many sects of Islam. However, for Quran ALLAH SWT has taken the responsibility in HIS hand, so no human can change it.

and i dont know how much you have studied monotheistic religions but the current imagery of Christianity, and Judaism are something that was considered pagan imagery at the time they were built. Since these imageries have survived centuries, so they have gained the status of holiness.

the Ayat I have posted has simple meaning, only to marry Believers of the Oneness of ALLAH SWT. whereas Trinity or following peer-fakeers is opposite to what ayat is asking for.

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You are only looking for governmental protection/rights as a couple and family approval . I think there is no question of pleasing God .

I'll suggest if they won't let you marry , just move in . At least you'll have all the rights of domestic partnership .

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i appologize for being SO RUDE. just a bad day.
but its good if you do some research on why, how and what of religion before state your opinion. It is true that you wont gonna get your answers right away but it worth trying.

you can laugh smile or what ever you wanna do, cuz i am pretty sure inshaALLAH i will be smiling on you on the day of judgement.

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emaanW
Are you from Dubai?

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^ emaanW >>>>>> i see MissNoland is back :halo:

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If you want to marry a non-Muslim, its your choice. And family opposition lessons , when the grandkids enter the picture.

But if you were expecting any sympathy on this forum, which I would categorise as 80% fundamentalist (about 10% serous Mulla worshipers), then you have come to the wrong place. I obviuosly exclude Pir Sahib and Deeba in this.

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10 % serious mullah worshippers :D I see them, I see them...

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u can see 10 percent mullah worshippers but what about the Teechi'z?i can see more than 4 Teechi'z posting in this thread :D

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Islam comes with very clear concepts while defining rules of marriage...we may choose our own way ..can do whatever we want to..but there is just a need to b very careful that(with due respect) Islamic concepts should not be misinterpret under personal circumstances...Quran must describes clearly regrading this critical issue..Some of the Islamic rules are tengible but some or not..we have to b aware of the difference bw the two....besides religion surely every body have the right to choose the way he wants to....either it is in accordence with religion or not..
Emaan it is gonna b fine....u are no doubt passing through a confusion n u are must b sensible one to decide what is wrong n what is right..it will just take a little time to get over with such kind of obscurity...