The dead gun yeilding robbers family - could demand an obscene amount of 'blood money". Even the innocent one who died, could be covered.
Everyone can be happy - even Zadari, who would be paid his usual commission of 10%.
If you disagree, provide reasons or a better solution.
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Lets first be clear, the dead guys were not really robbers as first claimed 
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They should offer a FULL apology. If the family of the dead are happy with blood money then they should demand it. A LOT.
However, I'm not sure if blood money can be accepted from non-muslims??
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Whole country is enjoying aid of non-Muslims.
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Whole country is enjoying aid of non-Muslims.
Shamefully true. Is it ok Islamically though? Just interesting to know..
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Whole country is enjoying aid of non-Muslims.
Not whole country but top thieves with big fat swiss accounts, don't make no difference to average joe on the street.
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The dead gun yeilding robbers family - could demand an obscene amount of 'blood money". Even the innocent one who died, could be covered. Everyone can be happy - even Zadari, who would be paid his usual commission of 10%.
If you disagree, provide reasons or a better solution.
let me copy paste my answer that i gave quoting your post in another thread, regarding this blood money crap of urs...
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its always good to keep once mouth shut and not comment on something which he doesn't know...
firstly the guys shot dead by the american spy are not proved to be robbers
secondly blood money is only paid when its agreed by the victims family
thirdly if blood money is not accepted, islamic system demands "life for life" not a blanket immunity
fourthly a spy who got caught red handed is to be executed
fifthly, you are an indian : p
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Not whole country but top thieves with big fat swiss accounts, don't make no difference to average joe on the street.
The vast majority of the country's people earn their own bread by their hard work!
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There are conflicting reports about the identity of the victims. The police confirmed one of the victims had a criminal record, while "anonymous sources within ISI" allegedly told ABC they were ISI agents. I'm sticking with the police's version of this until there is a confirmed source within the ISI.
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Question is who's Blood...........
and whoes Money?
The following came in the mail bag from Islamabad!
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The author is well briefed. What he writes meets the eye. An American "diplomat", so-called "Raymond Davis" shot dead two Pakistanis and currently there is big stand-off between the two countries, on this issue. Read on...... *
'Davis' is the missing link to US support for 'TTP' terror in PakistanUndoubtedly this is the biggest scandal in US Foreign relations since the US U-2 was shot down by the Soviets in the sixties. Then, as now, both sides played out the drama in an iterative manner--neither side letting the other know how much they knew.
There are clear indications that there is much more to the "Raymond Davis" affair than the Pakistanis are letting on. This isn't about murder and diplomatic immunity. This is much bigger. Something is very wrong with this picture, and Islamabad is tight lipped because it now has concrete evidence that Mr "Raymond Davis" is linked with the Tehrik e Taliban e Pakistan (TTP) and some of the terror activities that have been happening in Pakistan. The Pakistanis are not stupid. Americans stick out like sore thumbs in Pakistan. When they go running around in their black SUVs laced with Satellite equipment they are tracked, traced and followed. In a cat and mouse game, the contractors can sometimes shake their "tails". On other occasions they cannot. In fact the ISI gives them enough rope to hang themselves with. In this case, it seems Mr. Davis fell into a trap and his situation is now fully compromised. In panic Mr. "Davis" used the Nuclear option and killed the two Pakistanis who were trailing him--knowing full well that killing Pakistani spies or those who knew his identity would blow up in this face. He doesn't have to say much--the equipment he carried tells a long and bloody story. All this is irrefutable evidence in a Pakistani court of law. The Pakistanis have already released the pictures of the equipment and the evidence that they have gathered. Of course they are still holding on to the juiciest details.
The US has postponed the Afghan-Pakistan-US Trilateral meeting, dropped hints about postponing the date of Mr. Zardari's visit to the US, and floated all sorts of other threats. Normally Islamabad would have been cognizant of the problems of spoiling its relationship with the sole Superpower. However the smirking Pakistanis are so confident in the validity of their cause, that they are letting the US escalate the issue.
Pakistan has ignored some of the US pressure and has not buckled under intense US pressure. Both General Kayani and Former Foreign Minister Mahmood Qureshi were not very impressed by US posturing. In fact right after their threatening phone calls and messages Islamabad formally charged Davis with pre-meditated murder in the Lahore High Court. The Court promptly remanded Mr. "Davis" to prison for another 14 days of interrogation. There were stories that if Mr. "Davis" does not cooperate, the interrogation would have been upgraded to level 3 (a euphemism for torture). There are reports that despite admonitions from the US Embassy, Mr. Davis is singing like a bird, and has already given enough information to the Pakistanis to get him convicted in any court of law.
The Former Foreign Minister Qureshi publicly confirmed that Secretary of State Hillary Clinton pressured him to "publicly confirm diplomatic immunity of Davis. However, I refused to do so because it was against the factual position in the case." FM Qureshi's confirmation that Mr "Davis" is not a diplomat was repeatedly discussed on all 80 TV channels with copies of his passports and visas prominently displayed for the audience. Mr. Qureshi said that "The kind of blanket immunity Washington is pressing for Davis is not endorsed by the official record of the Foreign Ministry," adding that Washington even "threatened that Hillary Clinton would not meet me at the Munich conference on February 6 if the request was not granted."
The situation is so polarized that even traditional US allies in Pakistan have condemned the intrusive murders. Mr. Pervez Hoodbhoy who almost never criticizes the US has condemned the "Davis" affair. The PMLN has of course threatened the PPP with a vote of no-confidence.
It is clear that Mr. "Davis" shot the Pakistani operatives knowing full well who they were. The Pakistani authorities have informed the media that they are very well aware that Mr. Davis was in touch with the "Pakistani Taliban" (TTP). There is conjecture that Mr. "Davis" walked into a trap laid out by the ISI. In fact his contacts were actually ISI agents. All that he said and did is in the hands of the Pakistanis. Mr. "Davis" thought that by shooting the two operatives, he would eliminate the evidence against him. In fact, it made matters worse. Other operatives who were in the vicinity had already taken the necessary precautions. The ISI has leaked information to the media that Mr. "Davis" had crossed a "red line".
Clearly, the Americans have panicked because they know that the Pakistani side knows much more than it is prepared to admit in public. This is typical behavior when spies are caught with their thumbs up their noses. There are clear indications that Mr. "Davis" has broken down after sustained interrogation in police custody, and has spilled his guts--making the Pakistanis aware of explosive stuff. Its not that this stuff has surprised the Pakistanis. When you have 3000 of these guys running around the country--something gives. The ISI is one of the world's most powerful spy organizations in the world. It has deep roots in Pakistan and Afghanistan. Nothing that crawls or walks in Pakistan is hidden from the ISI and other agencies. On top of this there is a million man Pakistani army. 180 million Pakistanis are also watching the Americans and reporting on them. The panicked Americans have continually given highly contradictory versions about Mr. "Davis's" identity and the nature of his assignment in Pakistan.
It is very clear that Mr. "Davis's" discovery and detention has sent alarm bells ringing all the way to President Obama's White House. In a way the Pakistanis are amused. They know they have the Americans where they want them--right up against the wall. The Americans are fully aware that the "Davis" case is shaking the very foundations of the transactional relationship with Pakistan. While the CIA, the State Department and the White House think that this is a new discovery--the Pakistanis point to a long trail of evidence that directly points to the US consultants and their hirelings in Afghanistan and Pakistan. The ISI and the Army believe that at the right time, the details of what the Pakistanis know will be revealed to President Obama and the world.
Pakistan and Pakistanis have known for a long time who is behind the TTP (Tehrik e Taliban e Pakistani). Its not that hard to guess. What surprised the Pakistanis was their ability to inflict bloody attacks on the Pakistani military in order to destabilize Pakistan. Mr. Davis is not an isolated incident--there is a history behind much of what is happening in Pakistan--most of which can be correlated to the rise of the US "consultants" and "contractors" in Pakistan. It is pedagogical to note that last year when the ISI put in requests for deep security checks on those coming into Pakistan--the US put up a hissy fit and forced about 500 of these "Davis types" through without any background checks. It is noted that the ISI became very suspicious of the insistence of the US in getting these guys into Pakistan at short notice. These guys got very special attention--and that has paid off in the arrest and detention of Mr. Davis. This points to the fact that this incident was not just an accident--it was an incident waiting to happen. The ISI was ready to pounce on the situation once it happened. Pakistan has been very suspicious of these "contractors" especially when Pakistani state institutions were attacked. The attacks on the the Army HQ, and the ISI sent alarm bells among the rank and file of the Pakistani government. The vibrant Pakistani press has also been on the trail and has repeatedly pointed out the facts about the former Afghan intelligence chief Amrullah Saleh (who was eventually fired by Mr. Karzai). However the US security establishment was in cahoots with him.
The Pakistani military and its highly efficient intelligence set-up had concluded a very long time ago that the TTP was being aided by the very sort of free-wheeling "contractors" that Mr. Davis represents. It was just a matter of time when things came to a boil. It is amazing that the Americans are surprised they have finally been caught red-handed. This has happened in the past, but during the reign of President Musharraf, the Americans got away with it and escaped. This time Mr. "Davis" was caught with his hands in the cookie jar.
Over 100,000 American troops in Afghanistan facing the new Taliban "Spring Offensive" are totally dependent on supplies running through Pakistan. The last time Pakistan shut off the spigot, the Americans ran out of toilet paper and had to cut down on food rations. It must have been hard eating food with dirty hands! If the tiff between the US and Pakistan is not resolved the US may face the consequences in Afghanistan. Failure in the Hindu Kush will certainly impact the presidential elections in 2012.
US: Running with the hare and hunting with the hound !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Why in sam hell would America support taliban in Pakistan? After pumping billions of dollars in aid, putting pressure on Pakistan to fight extremists, *****ing about no progress being made, carrying out predator strikes, taking heat for predator strikes, and being generally paranoid about Islamic takeover in Pakistan, the last thing Americans would do is plant covert terror support. Whoever wrote the article above is pandering to a sensationalist Pakistani self-important point of view that even Pakistanis would find to be a stretch.
Re: Davis case - bloodmoney, is the answer.
The dead gun yeilding robbers family - could demand an obscene amount of 'blood money". Even the innocent one who died, could be covered. Everyone can be happy - even Zadari, who would be paid his usual commission of 10%.
If you disagree, provide reasons or a better solution.
**u r i guess referring to sharia code where by the perpetrator of the crime pays "blood money" and goes 'free"...???
its NOT like that. first of all, the victim's next-of-kin must VOLUNTARILY accept the money and secondly he doesn't go FREE to roam the street. he still rots in jail...the only thing money buys is the killer's life, he'll NOT be executed. this pardon's purpose is to help the victim's family if he was the sole bread-earner.**
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fINGER POINTS TO ISI you think?
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Can we demand that USA we will handover Raymond Davis only if they also take Rehman Malik and Dr. Firdaus Ashiq Awan with him?
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Why in sam hell would America support taliban in Pakistan? After pumping billions of dollars in aid, putting pressure on Pakistan to fight extremists, *****ing about no progress being made, carrying out predator strikes, taking heat for predator strikes, and being generally paranoid about Islamic takeover in Pakistan, the last thing Americans would do is plant covert terror support. Whoever wrote the article above is pandering to a sensationalist Pakistani self-important point of view that even Pakistanis would find to be a stretch.
Exactly.
Pakistani's love to blame everyone in the world, they can never admit Pakistani Muslims can do wrong to each other.
A nation in denial.
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100$ million a piece + congressional sorry works fine for me 
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a. Prove they were robbers. Don’t point to initial media frenzy. The onus is on you as the OP to actually prove it. Try getting the dead to confess. :k:
b. In order for “Raymond Davis” to be freed by offering blood money, he would first have to admit to the murders and ask for forgiveness. Then they family can be pursuaded to forgive him and accept something in return whether it’s money or anything else. So far they want blood for blood.
c. Zardari is already **ting bricks because he can’t just wave his wand and please the US Administration, as is apparent from his hooligan-style approach to letting loose his defense dawgs on media lashing out again ex-FM Qureshi for not granting immunity.
d. The cat’s already out of the bag. American can secure a softer stance from Pakistan if they actually sincerely show intent to cooperate by handing over the other murderer and the vehicle used to commit the murder of the 3rd victim. Failure to cooperate, and instead insist on exerting pressure only show arrogance and no regard for the law. It’s also ironic because US repeats the law, justice and democratic mantra at every chance possible except for when it seems perpendicular to American wishes. Hypocrisy? I’ll say!
e. Doesn’t an AussiIndian have Indian issues to worry about? Or would that be just so contradictory to the origin. 
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Why in sam hell would America support taliban in Pakistan? After pumping billions of dollars in aid, putting pressure on Pakistan to fight extremists, *****ing about no progress being made, carrying out predator strikes, taking heat for predator strikes, and being generally paranoid about Islamic takeover in Pakistan, the last thing Americans would do is plant covert terror support. Whoever wrote the article above is pandering to a sensationalist Pakistani self-important point of view that even Pakistanis would find to be a stretch.
You have no knowledge of geo-politics, strategic/investment then :)
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You have no **knowledge of geo-politics, strategic/investment **then :)
Yup captain bahi will explain in detail. i am listening.
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^ don't tune to this radio, the broadcast is all over the internet, you need to put pieces together, I am not interested in teaching KG classes.