Do you find that guys who have dated around (not in a slutty way, but have just been out with various women on dinners, and have a mixed gender group of friends) tend to be easier to talk to and hang out with than guys who refuse to talk to women because they think it’s haraam?
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Yes.
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Most definitely.
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Yes!
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Yes
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Do you find that guys who have dated around (not in a slutty way, but have just been out with various women on dinners, and have a mixed gender group of friends) tend to be easier to talk to and hang out with than guys who refuse to talk to women because they think it's haraam?
No.
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No.
explain.
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I am one of your guys from the latter. Well, I would'nt go so far as to say that interacting with the opposite sex is haraam, that is the extreme. But I am not comfortable with getting close to women especially if I find them attractive. Hence, I try to remain very, very formal with them. The part of the reason being for this is just the way I was brought up, studied in boys only school till 12th grade, literaly have no female friends or cousins, I don't even have a sister. I was first exposed to co-education when I entered college. I'm in my final year college now, and I still have not made any kind of informal talk with a women, yet alone dated them. But I am not a prude, I am just shy and anxious, a lot. Whenever I have to work in group projects or assignments with ladies and talk about studies related things, I participate but thats pretty much it.
Sometimes I think that I have missed out on a lot. I always had the idea that I will graduate,get a job with decent money, get married to the best girl with my elders arrangement, all will be hunky dory from there on and I won't face any issues in life regarding relationships. But I am starting to realize that I am just being naive and narrow minded. I did liked some women during my time in college, I even flirted a little bit but I never went to atleast have some conversation with them and get to know them. They too are human beings and flaws just like me. Now I feel bad about it, its not like I was going to fornicate with them.
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Men who have a lot of success with women, often have few, if any, female friends. They only have female acquaintances and FWB's. Nothing in between.
There is little use of pursuiing friendships with women you find attractive. It actually proves counter productive for your dating/sexual prospects with them. Men who are most succesful with women, are clear and upfront about their intentions from the start, they make their move and move on to another one quickly if the woman is not interested.
So you didnt miss out much by not pursuing friendships with women.
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Do you find that guys who have dated around (not in a slutty way, but have just been out with various women on dinners, and have a mixed gender group of friends) tend to be easier to talk to and hang out with than guys who refuse to talk to women because they think it's haraam?
Gay guys are often the easiest to talk to if youre a woman. They make good friends with women.
Then there are the bhai types inert men who are really chummy with girls. You'll see this character always surrounded by a group of girls. They present no 'sexual danger' to girls and the girls dont even feel uncomfortable sitting in their laps, greeting them by hugging etc. They are also very friendly and easy to talk to.
Whats the point here?
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I dunno, I think the point has been lost at this point.
What were we talking about again? Women sitting on men's laps, what...?
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explain.
I know guys from both categories. I have not found the former to be easier to hang out with or talk to than the latter.
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I know guys from both categories. I have not found the former to be easier to hang out with or talk to than the latter.
I also know guys from both categories. Although guys who have dated in the past were easier to talk to, they seemed indifferent to me. They talked and offered advice too but it was advice that could not reach the heart. While men I have spoken to who don't interact much with women at all sometimes ended up saying things that actually meant a LOT. But this is my personal experience. I don't judge anyone based on their dating history but I do like the innocence that comes along with not being around with too many women.
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Guys who think it's haram to talk to women wouldn't be talking to them in the first place :p
Yea… gay guys are pretty awesome.
Sitting in laps? What? I don’t even sit in my own bhai’s lap. 
Back to OP’s question, i think it depends person to person.
There are guys who are naturally friendly (not to be confused with flirtatious). If they’ve been around the block or not has nothing to do with that.
Assume the ‘haram’ bit was exaggerated, there are guys who choose to keep it strictly business with women. (Not to be confused with 'wam-bam-thank you ma’am.)
And then there are the socially awkward. :hinna: Religious or not… This group is just annoying.
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*Then there are the *bhai types inert men who are really chummy with girls. You'll see this character always surrounded by a group of girls. They present no 'sexual danger' to girls and the girls dont even feel uncomfortable sitting in their laps, greeting them by hugging etc. They are also very friendly and easy to talk to. **
I beg to differ on this one, during college and early years of my work life I was this guy and one of the main reasons of girls being around me was respect, i looked at them respectfully and thus they were comfortable to talk to me, and not to mention I did date 2 of the women in the group.
And thus PCG talking to girls or being part of a co-gender group gives you a certain comfort level to talk to your opposite sex.
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PLAYA ALERT!!!
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Wow…I must say this is a whole new level of comfort! I greet guy friends by hugging but I can honestly say I’ve never even thought about sitting in their laps. In fact, the girls I know in real life are also quite liberal and are very friendly with guys…but even they don’t just randomly sit in the laps of guys UNLESS it’s a guy they’re romantically involved with.
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I am one of your guys from the latter. Well, I would'nt go so far as to say that interacting with the opposite sex is haraam, that is the extreme. But I am not comfortable with getting close to women especially if I find them attractive. Hence, I try to remain very, very formal with them. The part of the reason being for this is just the way I was brought up, studied in boys only school till 12th grade, literaly have no female friends or cousins, I don't even have a sister. I was first exposed to co-education when I entered college. I'm in my final year college now, and I still have not made any kind of informal talk with a women, yet alone dated them. But I am not a prude, I am just shy and anxious, a lot. Whenever I have to work in group projects or assignments with ladies and talk about studies related things, I participate but thats pretty much it.
Sometimes I think that I have missed out on a lot. I always had the idea that I will graduate,get a job with decent money, get married to the best girl with my elders arrangement, all will be hunky dory from there on and I won't face any issues in life regarding relationships. But I am starting to realize that I am just being naive and narrow minded. I did liked some women during my time in college, I even flirted a little bit but I never went to atleast have some conversation with them and get to know them. They too are human beings and flaws just like me. Now I feel bad about it, its not like I was going to fornicate with them.
The girls won't bite.
And the best way to get over your attraction is to talk to them. The biggest turn off ever in the world is hearing a person speak and realize they're just stupid.
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IF you're going on a date, meeting a potential rishta, it probably will be a good idea to have some subjects at hand in the back of your mind to talk about, so there isn't too many awkward pauses.