Darwin: Man or monkey!!!

[SlaveofAllaah]

Re: Darwin: Man or monkey!!!

@SlaveofAllaah

Salam bro,

Now well if it allegorical then if it is and i use the concording approach,

1. The children of Adam are the same.
2. The act of satan is the same.
3. The words of Allaah are also the same.

Well, i can refute you more but these 3 points should be more then enough, i find this kind of argument in the freemind website. Well, you know why that verse was revealed common get over it.
They are stories in the Quran which are allegorical, other times Allaah provides us with similarity of small living beings. But if we have to take this verse out of context and then talk about Adam and Eve i completely agree with you.

Walekum Salam this is in reference to USR’s request
According to me if the creation plot by Allaah is allegorical then my thouhgt preludes from the stance of the Quran, my argument is Allaah has been consistent throughout the Quran.

1. If Allaah’s words are allegorical why is this short story repeated in the Quran with impeccable consistency. Let me just put down the verses of the creation plot,
   a)Surah 2:30-39,
   b)then in Surah 18:50 Allaah has stated the iblis was one of the jinns.
   c)Again in verse 7:27 satan seduced the human.
   d)Surah 15:26:44
   e) Surah 38:71-85
   f) Surah 17:61-65
   g)Surah 7:11-25
   h) Surah 20:115-123
   i) Surah 4:1 this beats everything up
   SHAKIR: O people! be careful of (your duty to) your Lord, Who created you from a single being and created its mate of the same (kind) and spread from these two, many men and women; and be careful of (your duty to) Allah, by Whom you demand one of another (your rights), and (to) the ties of relationship; surely Allah ever watches over you.

Remember i have quoted around 65 verses above considering Quran has 6000 verses and above 1% of it is already proven to be allegorical.

Also to sum it up i havent added the complete Surah Al Kahf thats 18, as even that might be considered a allegory. Also i havent included the story of Cain and Abel.

Now the allegory part of the Quran stems from verse 3:7

SHAKIR: He it is Who has revealed the Book to you; some of its verses are decisive, they are the basis of the Book, and others are allegorical; then as for those in whose hearts there is perversity they follow the part of it which is allegorical, seeking to mislead and seeking to give it (their own) interpretation. but none knows its interpretation except Allah, and those who are firmly rooted in knowledge say: We believe in it, it is all from our Lord; and none do mind except those having understanding.

My concern is let the Muslims read the above verse, if the story of the creation has to be allegorical per se let me agree to it and support but

1. Is the story of the she-camel allegorical.
2. Story of saleh, jonah, this goes on because all this characters are abstract to us, the situations given in the quran by Allaah are abstract to us and also they have a short moral story.

This again is a problem for us Muslims.