Dajjal

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Trooper, a very simple question with a very simple yes or a no will suffice, are sunni's/shia's muslims or not according to ahmadies?

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^^^ Can you please quote the verse right after Aayatul Kursi? You will find your answer there..

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Destino, I did not ask for references and what not, a simple YES or a NO, now which one is it?

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Just quote the verse.. you will find a clear yes and no there...

But for your convenience.. Anyone who believes in Shahadah is a muslim.

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hmm I will rather follow his advice than following someone who disrespected the prophet Isa:as: and then the most the last of the messenger Muhammad:saw:

Thanks!

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hmmm
Ghulam Ahmed has written that and I quote it in roman urdu as a translation may lose the effect of it:

KanjariyoN ki Aulaad nay meri tasdeeq naheeN ki.
----(Ainah-e-kamaalaat-e-Islam - Page 547/548)

Kull Musalmaan jo Hazrat Maseeh Mo’ood (Mirza) ki bai’yat maiN shaamil naheeN huvay khuah unhoN nay hazrat Maseeh Mo’ood kaa naam bhee naheeN sunna, woh kaafir aur daairah-e-Islaam say khaarij haiN.
----(Ainah-e-Sadaaqat - Page 35)

Dushman hamaaray bayaabaanoN kay khinzeer ho gaye, aur unn ki aurtaiN kutiyoN say baRh gayeeN.
-----(Najam-ul-Huda - Page 53)

Please, note that I just have quoted it from somewhere and these are not my words.

PS: Now I know from where the tongue of Madhanee sprinkles flowers and love all around.

grown ups only
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You havent quoted the verse yet. What are you guys so affraid of? Truth may bite.. but it is there.

Qureshi sahib..here are your answers.

  1. The words used here are "Zurriyatul baghaya". Some mullah took the liberty of translating them according to his own mental level. Zurriyatul baghaya is equivalent to phrases like "ibnul waqt". It refers to a person of low mentality and no principles. In the book (which is in arabic) it was used for mullahs who acted as "zurriyatul baghaya" in opposition of promised messiah (as).

  2. Hadhrat Khalifatul Maseeh II said in a further statement that Mufridat Imam Raghib (p 240) classifies "Islam" as of two levels. A lower level and a higher level. "Danul Iman" is the lower level which distinguishes muslims by name from those who are at a level of distinction. So the "pale of islam" is the state of true and complete Iman. He also mentioned a hadith from Mishkaat which says " Whosoever helps a man who is unjust, he puts himself thereby, outside the pale of Islam".

I would again like you to quote the verse right after Aayatul Kursi.

  1. Let me draw your attention to the real context of the third reference. Go to www.alfazal.org and look it up in the book. It is just one half of a couplet which states that the enemies have crossed all limits in abuse and dispicable behaviour so much so that they are acting like swine and their women are acting like bitches.

A hadith says that in the last days all fitnah will arise from the mosques. When people will turn to their scholars for help they will find swine and monkeys in their place.
Quran says that the example of an unbeliever is like of a dog. It barks if you tell it to go away; it barks when you turn away from it.

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That is sooo right. I posted a pic of one swine in Image, and I got banned for that.

I think posting pics of swines on GS is not really allowed. Gotta read the GS disclaimer again. Later someone told me that was Peera de Peer Sheikh al Uloom Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiyani’s pic. :confused:

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oh my... when will his greatness hazrat mirza come back from the toilet... rr i mean dead.. to shine his greatness upon all of us