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Mufti Abu Lubaba Shah Mansoor - DAJJAL Kaun kahan Kab.
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read mufti abu lubaba shah `s book Dajjal koun kahan kab
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& Peace,
That dream was seen by our beloved Prophet Muhammad 
. My simple question is why we or any other should interpretate it? Beside that hadith there are many narration from Prophet Muhammad about Dajjal that he won’t be able to enter the city of Madina & Makka. See the hadith below:
**Book ‘Beginning of Creation’ of Sahih Bukhari. Hadith No. 462. **
Narrated Ibn Abbas: The Prophet said, “On the night of my Ascent to the Heaven, I saw Moses who was a tall brown curly-haired man as if he was one of the men of Shan’awa tribe, and I saw Jesus, a man of medium height and moderate complexion inclined to the red and white colors and of lank hair. I also saw Malik, the gate-keeper of the (Hell) Fire and Ad-Dajjal amongst the signs which Allah showed me.” (The Prophet then recited the Holy Verse): “So be not you in doubt of meeting him’ when you met Moses during the night of Mi’raj over the heavens” (32.23) Narrated Anas and Abu Bakra: "The Prophet said, “The angels will guard Medina from Ad-Dajjal (who will not be able to enter the city of Medina).”
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When am I saying Dajjal will enter Makkah and Madinah ?
All i’m drawing your attention towards is the fact that in a dream, Dajjal was seen in Makkah and Masih (as) was seen there too ( his physical features are different than the Masih that Prophet Muhammad PBUH saw in Miraaj, but i’ll not discuss that for now ) The closest meaning to that is that Dajjal will be in Makkah to find any way of destroying it ( kaaba symbolizing Islam ), where as Masih (as) is there to protect kaaba (again symbolizing Islam). We all know who has been attacking Islam all this time. Thats right!.. Western powers, Christianity.
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He(pbuh) saw addajjal during Mairaj?? that is news to me. btw, if he(pbuh) had seen dajjal then why had he ideas about ibn-e-sayyad that he could be dajjal as indicated by the ahadith you posted earlier. He didn’t said that with certainty. why? ibne-sayyad didn’t have ‘ka fa ra’ written on his forehead (can we deduce that ‘ka fa ra’ sign on forehead is not meant to be taken literally) . moreover, he was born in makkah (i guess). he became muslim and died being a muslim. so what is this idea about ibne-sayad being the dajjal?
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some points regarding dajjal's donkey. many here agree that it is not about a creature but a ride and that is an aeroplane. Actually, you cannot limit it to an aeroplane, it can be railways, or other automobiles. the point is that dajjal will be backed by the power of wordly knowledge and hi-tech rides will be invented by him and will be in his control.
some additional information about dajjal's donkey in ahadith other than what has already been discussed:
1) it will eat fire, it will eat rocks - it seems that eating rocks is synonymous to coal as fuel, eating fire means energy will be produced from fuel combustion in engines
2) mountain of smoke on front - railway train with steam engine using coal as fuel
It could also be ships
3) people will ride inside him and not on his back
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kchughtai, where does it say about eating rocks? its something i am unfamilliar with
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where does it say about eating rocks? its something i am unfamilliar with
can anyone help out here?
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here is the hadith that I took from Dajjal and His Donkey | eShaykh.com. don’t have further info on it. is there a source online that has all the relevant ahadith in original text ?
The Prophet (s) said, regarding the Dajjāl’s donkey:
[RIGHT]يقول الرسول الكريم صلى الله عليه وسلم عن هذا الحمار: يأكل الحجارة ويسبقه جبل من دخان ويركب الناس في جوفه وليس على ظهره[/RIGHT]He eats rocks and a mountain of smoke precedes him and people ride inside him, and not on his back.
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^ more like reference to modern day exploration & extraction of oil/gas and other energy resources.
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^^
Peace kchughtai,
Full of doubt hadith.
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i dont know about its authenticity status but i have no problem with its matn (text). its inline with other hadiths, with regards to the technologies of dajjals ride(s)
its just interesting, if its sahih, i think we have some time left before the appearance of masih ad-dajjal
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This thread's gone way off topic. I just wanted someone to interpret the hadith in context of modern times but everyone's badly failed so far. tsk tsk
This thread's gone way off topic. I just wanted someone to interpret the hadith in context of modern times but everyone's badly failed so far. tsk tsk
I did respond on what I knew about Dajjal's emergence point according to ahadiths and also role of Isfahan as far as I knew :(
Take a look :(
Dajjal is a physical being, a person, who will emerge between the land of Shaam (bilaad-ush-shaam consists of syria, Jordan, palestine, Lebanon and vicinity) and Iraq, according to a hadith I've read. The jews from Isfahan, Iran will become part of his army.
The New World Order is the jewish system based on the economic system of Riba. And this is the system put in place in anticipation of his coming.
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I did respond on what I knew about Dajjal's emergence point according to ahadiths and also role of Isfahan as far as I knew :( Dajjal is a physical being, a person, who will emerge between the land of Shaam (bilaad-ush-shaam consists of syria, Jordan, palestine, Lebanon and vicinity) and Iraq, according to a hadith I've read. The jews from Isfahan, Iran will become part of his army.
Take a look :(
Let's try to analyse it again in current events' light.
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In the current light of events, Dajjal is still a person literally with literal features described in Hadiths pertaining to Dajjal's fitnah, appearance, (mis)rule, and eventual demise. That is! If we take what's said in the hadith as being literal and not metaphorical as some claim.
Allah knows best.
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what current events are you referring to? state your point clearly.
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^Syrian conflict....Lebanon, Iran and Iraq siding with Assad's regime.
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The Dajjalic system is already in place. What remains is for the different components of the grand system to be tied together into one central nerve center/command center/HQ, etc. That, according to ahadith will be Jerusalem with the advent of the final Dajjal Masih (AntiChrist).
Consider this, and you will not find any ambiguity in this fact. Whose sovereignty do you find in most, if not all countries today? God's? No. Far from it. Men's sovereignty. Democracy=Governance of the people, for the people, by the people. People decide their affairs according to their desires/needs/demands by the majority.
Then consider the amount of bloodshed (Al-Harj; another indication) that's widespread all over the world. The killed in most cases is not aware why he/she has been killed, and in some instances the killer has a confused justification for why the murder was warranted. In most of these crimes, neither the killed knows the killer; nor the killer knows the one who's being killed.
So how unlikely would you say it would be, if a person/commander/country comes with the message of "true" peace, and paints a picture that lets wipe all these divisions among mankind. Borders hold no significance, and it should be one universal law/rule for all. How fair! How just a system!.....or is it?
If your conscience agrees to that supposed peace; read Submission, to any entity other than God The Almighty, then you're well indoctrinated for Dajjal's appearance already.
It's not that it sounds bad; it sounds amazingly fair. But remember this: Dajjal's fitnah is such that reality is totally opposite to the presentation. What you think you see, may be in reality the total opposite in spirit/after effect/overall impact on humanity.
Disagree with me, for that's the purpose of a debate. But I'm inclined to believe in the hadiths that remind us, and warn us about the reality of the greatest fitnah faced by all of mankind. It was so grave that Prophet Muhammad (s.a.w.) vowed to defend/protect the people of his time if Dajjal appeared then. That's very significant. What chance do you, or me, or anyone have when our Iman is inherited and not earned as early muslims?
We already fall prey to the smallest of fitnahs on a daily basis; may Allah (swt) protect and help us with the greatest deception that's to come.
In the light of everything that's happening whether Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, Caucasus regions, European/American economical downward spiral are all different pathways that eventually merge and lead to "One Solution". That solution will be presented by the Dajjal; while his agents in the form of men/women will do their best to set the stage for him. He only needs to attend the official ceremony to initiate the supposed One Government. Conspiracy? We shall see. Lets hope we're alive to re-visit this then. :) There's no shame in being wrong, and i'll take that any day.
Allah knows best.
*Sources: Various lectures from prominent scholars (Dr. Israr Ahmed foremost), and collection of ahadith dealing with this particular matter. May be able to provide references if needed. *
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I don't disagree with you but I have kind of a different...you can say "picture" in my mind...in the light of recent and ongoing events. I'll post details after the weekend inshallah...with ahadith.