Dajjal in Isfihaan?

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Ok people read the beginning of the Dajjal book written by Ahmed Thompson ... in it he mentions that Dajjal references occur in three types of ways that show that the Dajjal has three aspects.

1) The Dajjal System
2) The Dajjal Elite
3) The Dajjal Person

All three of these are true and not any one of these overrides the other ...

The system is the order of consumeristic capitalism, the elite are the cult/capitalists and the Dajjal is a person ... Each of these Dajjal aspects have one eye ...

The system of consumerism is shallow without depth and hence one eyed, the elite are people who worship the one eyed god Ra, and the person himself is indeed sighted in one eye ...

There are groups that are sowing confusion by focussing on some aspects of Dajjal without looking at what the ulema say regarding this matter ... It is categorical that all three manifestations of Dajjal appear one after the other.

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Is this book also available online? I mean, does it have any PDF format??

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May be you can find it … I did a quick search and I found this:

Read the introduction it reflects what I said:

Dajjal by Ahmad Thomson

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Would Hareem liking Psyah's post be considered nepotism ?

Is one-eyed god Ra, the same as Ra-1 or Raavan ?

Or Lucifer or Shaitan ?

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Yes ...

No ...

Well ... anything inspired by Shaitan ... is worship of Shaitan

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Dear Queen, in my posts I usually talk in general terms assuming people are aware of what is going on in ummah and pakistan. If you watch news there are killings going on everyday. Muslims are killing other muslims and of course nonmuslims too are at our throats.

Coming to this forum, we are having discussions and peaceful as well but are they really helpful or are we simply passing time? The situation on the ground demands that we put some effort into explaining things to each other so that we may learn something new from each whereby we may be able to benefit. As we are all trapped from all sides perhaps some of us can figure out how to get out of this situation and help others understand. Unless we do something of this nature things are likely to remain as they are or get worse day by day.

I see in most of the posts people discuss things that seem to matter to them most but should they be seen as pressing necessity when our real problems as a people are of very different nature that we are ignoring.

We are not realising that islam is a deen and if it is a deen then there are implications for us who claim to be muslims. The question is, what are we doing to deal with islam as a deen.

It seems we are not much concerned if many of our own people are suffering and are being destroyed systematically throughout the world and not only that but even rest of humanity is in terrible state of existence.

Our concerns are namaaz roza and the related private masaail and we think so long as we are doing all that we are ok. That is the main problem that we have become ritualistic muslims paying only lip service to islam and humanity at large.

So you can see how I look at things but I do not mean any disrespect to any brother or sister here. What I am looking at is our mindsets and attitudes or practices.

For me the question is, if I was one of those unfortunate people suffering in pain, would anyone come to my aid out of sense of responsibility? If you were of those unfortunate people, would you be happy if no one was bothered with your plight?

Since I do not want to live in the world without sharing my concerns for others, hence it is possible that people who have not reached my level of realising of things may not have thought about serious issues that they should be thinking about. It is for me to bring to peoples’ attention things that they must come to know because without their help and participation things are not going to go in the direction that they should.

Today I have some leverage so I am helping others to realise what I have realised so that together we could bring about more people. No one wants to think about things that upset us but if that is how it is going to be, what will be the society like if no one cared for anyone else?

This is why islam must be understood as a deen and those who understand it must help others do the same otherwise islam will be useless and irrelevant for mankind as it has been for centuries. After all what is the point of having a medicine but never taking it to get well?

regards and all the best.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrF_W1AM4kY&feature=related

Living under Pakistan’s Non-Islamic Govt. System. What to do ? Dr. Israr Ahmad - YouTube

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M1, I understand where u are coming from but I dont understand why you are coming from there?? :bummer:

Ok, let me explain you.. this thread is about Dajjal in Isfihaan. Are you mistaken of entering in the wrong thread? because I found your explanation for something else, like, the recent thread going on in All views!!
I am confused now :konfused:

Thanks anyways, for what you explained!!

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OK?

Dajjal in Isfihaan?

Dajjal is a physical being, a person, who will emerge between the land of Shaam (bilaad-ush-shaam consists of syria, Jordan, palestine, Lebanon and vicinity) and Iraq, according to a hadith I've read. The jews from Isfahan, Iran will become part of his army.

The New World Order is the jewish system based on the economic system of Riba. And this is the system put in place in anticipation of his coming.

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Now THIS sounds familiar.

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there are many books rightly available in the market on the topic that have well narrated ahadith and also quotes from quran regarding qayamat. so please get such type of books

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Peace All,

There is many many hadith about Dajjal but these three I found very informatic:

Book ‘Funerals (Al-Janaaiz)’ of Sahih Bukhari, Hadith No. 437

Narrated Ibn 'Umar: 'Umar set out along with the Prophet :saw2: with a group of people to Ibn Saiyad till they saw him playing with the boys near the hillocks of Bani Mughala. Ibn Saiyad at that time was nearing his puberty and did not notice (us) until the Prophet :saw2: stroked him with his hand and said to him,

“Do you testify that I am Allah’s Apostle?”
Ibn Saiyad looked at him and said, “I testify that you are the Messenger of illiterates.”

Then Ibn Saiyad asked the Prophet :saw2:, “Do you testify that I am Allah’s Apostle?”
The Prophet (p.b.u.h) refuted it and said, “I believe in Allah and His Apostles.”

Then he said (to Ibn Saiyad), “What do you think?”
Ibn Saiyad answered, “True people and liars visit me.”

The Prophet said, “You have been confused as to this matter.” Then the Prophet said to him, “I have kept something (in my mind) for you, (can you tell me that?)” Ibn Saiyad said, “It is Al-Dukh (the smoke).” (2) The Prophet said, “Let you be in ignominy. You cannot cross your limits.”

On that 'Umar, said, “O Allah’s Apostle! Allow me to chop his head off.” The Prophet :saw2: said, “If he is he (i.e. Dajjal), then you cannot over-power him, and if he is not, then there is no use of murdering him.”

(Ibn 'Umar added): Later on Allah’s Apostle :saw2: once again went along with Ubai bin Ka’b to the date-palm trees (garden) where Ibn Saiyad was staying. The Prophet :saw2: wanted to hear something from Ibn Saiyad before Ibn Saiyad could see him, and the Prophet :saw2: saw him lying covered with a sheet and from where his murmurs were heard. Ibn Saiyad’s mother saw Allah’s Apostle while he was hiding himself behind the trunks of the date-palm trees. She addressed Ibn Saiyad, “O Saf ! (and this was the name of Ibn Saiyad) Here is Muhammad.” And with that Ibn Saiyad got up. The Prophet said, "Had this woman left him (Had she not disturbed him), then Ibn Saiyad would have revealed the reality of his case.

**Book ‘Pilgrimmage (Hajj)’ of Sahih Bukhari Hadith No. 626 **

Narrated Mujahid: I was in the company of Ibn Abbas and the people talked about Ad-Dajjal and said, “Ad-Dajjal will come with the word Kafir (non-believer) written in between his eyes.” On that Ibn Abbas said, "I have not heard this from the Prophet but I heard him saying, 'As if I saw Moses just now entering the valley reciting Talbyia. ’ "

**Book ‘Virtues of Madinah’ of Sahih Bukhari Hadith No. 105
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Narrated Anas bin Malik: The Prophet said, “There will be no town which Ad-Dajjal will not enter except Mecca and Medina, and there will be no entrance (road) (of both Mecca and Medina) but the angels will be standing in rows guarding it against him, and then Medina will shake with its inhabitants thrice (i.e. three earth-quakes will take place) and Allah will expel all the nonbelievers and the hypocrites from it.”

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^ LKK, what information have you deduced from the above ahadith? please let us know in simple words

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:rotfl:

man you guys are funny with your fairytales.

i will give you that since I think what Psyah posted is not authentic. Because a sound hadith involving a sahabi named Tameem Daari (RA) talks about him actually meeting Dajjal and the person named Jassaasa.

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right after you explain it to us :(

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Islam seems to give hints that Muslims are master of looking for. Aap fikar naa karain, hum eik minute main pehchaan lain ge.

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May be but it demonstrates the view of him being a person and these two show that he was born ... he may have aged quickly I dunno ...

Abu Bakrah said, "The Prophet (sallallahu alayhe wa sallam)
said, "The Dajjal's parents will remain childless for thirty years,
then a one-eyed child will be born to them. He will be very bad and will
cause a great deal of trouble. When he sleeps, his eyes will be closed
but his heart (or mind) will still be active. Then he described his
parents: 'His father will be a tall and bulky man, with a long nose like a beak;
his mother will be a huge, heavy-breasted woman."

Abu Bakrah said, "We heard that a child had been born to
some of the Jews in Madinah. Al-Zubayr ibn al-Awam and I went see his pa,
and found that they matched the description given by the Prophet
(sallallahu alayhe wasallam). We saw the boy lying in the sun, covered with a
blanket, murmuring to himself. We asked his parents about him, and
they said, 'We remained childless for thirty years, then this one-eyed boy
was born to us. He is very bad and causes a great deal of trouble. When
we went out, we passed the boy. He asked us, 'What were you doing?.We
said, 'Did you hear us?. He said, 'Yes; when I sleep, my eyes are closed
but my heart (mind) is still active. That boy was Ibn Sayyad." (Ahmad, Tirmidhi; this Hadith is not very strong.)