LUCKNOW: Curfew was clamped in parts of Lucknow after violence and arson marred a procession to mark the birth anniversary of Prophet Mohammad with members of the Shia and Sunni Muslim sects clashing in the old city area on Sunday.
As many as 13 people, including seven policemen, were injured in a fight over passage of the Sunni procession.
“A group of Shia Muslims raised objections over a religious procession being taken out by the Sunnis through the Shia dominated Thakurganj locality,” said District Magistrate Ramendra Tripathi.
Lucknow has a history of Shia-Sunni clashes during Milad-Ul-Nabi and Shia processions of Imam Hussein.
The problem here are local authorities, they hardly provide adequate security personnels and each years clashes happen...this is every year's story.
On top of that, U.P. has Mulayam Singh Yadav government, another hypocrite, who claims that he is a sole protector of minorities and Muslims in India...and look such Protectors can't even provide security for their Muslim vote banks?
This is height of pseudo-secularism....BJP though gets a bad name by media, does much better job when it comes to law and order in U.P.
Lucknow has a history of Shia-Sunni clashes during Milad-Ul-Nabi and Shia processions of Imam Hussein.
The problem here are local authorities, they hardly provide adequate security personnels and each years clashes happen...this is every year's story.
On top of that, U.P. has Mulayam Singh Yadav government, another hypocrite, who claims that he is a sole protector of minorities and Muslims in India...and look such Protectors can't even provide security for their Muslim vote banks?
This is height of pseudo-secularism....BJP though gets a bad name by media, does much better job when it comes to law and order in U.P.
Mulayam is rightly called Mulla. He, just to get votes, can say good things about SIMI. But does he really care for Muslim? I know this, HE DOES NOT. Thats why he would let the riots happen. BJP used to be a Nationalist party, that took decision on the basis of national interest. Thats why they are out now, and are trying to loose all the nationalist feeling that used to be there. In India the majority votes are divided by caste and religion. I think the Election commission should put a ban on using religion and caste to get votes during election and rather have some agenda that benefits the masses.
When did this happen the last time - one caste was having a religious function and the other caste started the riot.
dude, do you want unnecessary arguments to be done over here??.....for a few days there were no such arguments. One thing leads to another, it grows more and enters into an infinite loop. The day you started that DRDO testing missiles thread, then only i realized.... that break is gone:D ....fortunately nobody replied. and yes, much worse things have happened to so called lower castes as they say "oppression is worse than killing".....
dude, do you want unnecessary arguments to be done over here??.....for a few days there were no such arguments. One thing leads to another, it grows more and enters into an infinite loop. The day you started that DRDO testing missiles thread, then only i realized.... that break is gone:D ....fortunately nobody replied. and yes, much worse things have happened to so called lower castes as they say "oppression is worse than killing".....
Dude, All arguments are unnecessary, even when you argue. I try to discuss rather than argue.
Whats wrong with the DRDO missile thread. Its unfortunate that you think like that. There are some Indians, like you, who think like this. When someone says India has this bad and there it is worse you come up and defend yourself. Thats it.
There are lot of good that is happening in India and I want to share it with people around the world. There are some people who like to take photographs of poverty in India and display it. I want to display the bright side of India.
Now about this thread - I genuinely want to know why muslims fight between themselves. I am sure Prophet Mohammad did not want it to be like this.
Islam is not a monolithic structure. There are many sects in Islam. They have some theological and historical differences. But these differences are not of a serious nature if you are a moderate and tolerant person. I guess once the people get more educated they'll cast aside such minor differences or at least don't get violent about them.
Islam is not a monolithic structure. There are many sects in Islam. They have some theological and historical differences. But these differences are not of a serious nature if you are a moderate and tolerant person. I guess once the people get more educated they'll cast aside such minor differences or at least don't get violent about them.
Thanks GK. I guess half of the worlds problems will be resolved if people get educated.
Recently I was watching on TV about one Indian viallge school in UP. The interviewer asked the smartest student, whats the name of our Prime Minister, he said Mulayam Singh and whats the capital of the country, he said UP. AND these are the kids going to school.
One disappointing (or funny for some) thing was that all students from grade one to 12 were taught in the same classroom at the same time.
I can’t believe the last sentence most of all. I wish they would give education top priority in India and Pakistan so the literacy rate would go up to 99% so there wouldn’t be so many riots and killings.
This lack of emphasis on education is a sad reality in Pakistan. I don't know much about India but most of Indians that I've met on internet are well educated people (a bit chauvinistic but well educated). As to Pakistan we only spend 1.5% of our GDP on education and around 5% on military. In the coming fiscal year the government intends to spend 4% of GDP on education. Hopefully it will improve the level of education in the long run. We need to set our priorities right.
"From 1958 to 1973, the defence budget accounted for nearly 60% of the total government expenditures. Since 1973, this percentage has been reduced by half due to a growing economy, inflation, and foreign military aid. In 2005 Pakistan's Military expenditures were 18.252 Billion dollars, which is 3.9 percent of GDP."
The military expenditure of Pakistan is 3.9% of GDP which makes up around 25% of the Federal Budget.
I am not at liberty to post links so you should go to Wikipedia and type the words "Military of Pakistan" in its search box then take a look at section 10 titled "Budget".
This lack of emphasis on education is a sad reality in Pakistan. I don't know much about India but most of Indians that I've met on internet are well educated people (a bit chauvinistic but well educated). As to Pakistan we only spend 1.5% of our GDP on education and around 5% on military. In the coming fiscal year the government intends to spend 4% of GDP on education. Hopefully it will improve the level of education in the long run. We need to set our priorities right.
That' s the problem with some of indians who are educated which even i noticed. They are not seeing the other opposite side.
@ Dawa-i-Dil
Pakistan’s total GDP is 450 billion USD. 60% of GDP is a very huge sum. As I said previously before 1973 Pakistan used to spend roughly 60% of the Federal Budget on Armed Forces but in the year 2005 total expenditure on armed forces was 18 billion USD which is 3.9% of GDP and around 25% of Federal Budget. These stats are authentic you can check them on Wikipedia.
@ SSingh
Religion and nationalism are two biggest dividing factors of mankind. Due to emphasis on secularism we are able to neutralize the effect of religion to a certain extent. But with the decline of stress on religion we are also witnessing an excessive stress on nationalism. The concept of pluralism and multiculturalism addresses this issue to some degree but in an indirect manner. Pluralism and multiculturalism are applied within the boundaries of a nation state to bring some harmony among the diverse populations living within a state. Now the world is becoming a global village. We interact with people from different cultures and nationalities. There is a need that some modus ope***** can be devised by virtue of which we can reduce the friction and xenophobia among people from different nations and backgrounds.
Pakistan’s total GDP is 450 billion USD. 60% of GDP is a very huge sum. As I said previously before 1973 Pakistan used to spend roughly 60% of the Federal Budget on Armed Forces but in the year 2005 total expenditure on armed forces was 18 billion USD which is 3.9% of GDP and around 25% of Federal Budget. These stats are authentic you can check them on Wikipedia.
Dear GDP wrt PPP brother not the real GDP or nominal GDP that account ot just above 100 billion dollars. 450 billion, common give me a break, well check that out for sure its Purchasing Power Parity, in that case Indias GDP is more then a trillion and in some cases i heard China's GDP is the highest in the world but according to Economist magazine its not the case and I rest my case on you.
Malika :riots in India and Pakistan, Is it really the fact that in our respective countries education isn't given importance or is it just in our culture.
I feel like there really doesn't need to be a reason for people to start killing each other in India or Pakistan. Or is it history?
Malika: It has to do a lot with the civil ties or lets say intercommunal engagement within that particular society. if you take into consideration Hyderabad and Lucknow 's case, the latter fared far better, interms of showing restraint and maintaining communal peace between hindus and muslims than the former and it was largely attributed to the links they have forged over the years. I won't make a distinction between hindu muslim riots and shia sunni riots because identity politics, whether ethnic or religious leads to disaster in most of the cases and this isn't not specific to the subcontinent alone. (Basques in Spain, Freesians in europe or Qubecois in Canada) However, the economic lot of a community together with education makes a great difference in determining the course of action that a people would choose and I think more than religion it is the political, the economic and institutional factors that play an important role in the provocation of such conflicts.
I can’t believe the last sentence most of all. I wish they would give education top priority in India and Pakistan so the literacy rate would go up to 99% so there wouldn’t be so many riots and killings.