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in my ghar all the larkiyan are gori and the larkay are kalay bhujang :-/
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You forgot me Catty, I'm whiter than them all. :Pretty:
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Interesting comments. I knew a couple, both karachites husband in mid twneties wife in early twenties, and the husband was completely dominating. He never lifted a spoon in the house telling his wife that all house chores were her job since he was the earning member. He would leave clothes lying around on the floor cos it was her job to tidy up, he would invite guests ever so often and she would have to cook and clean all by herself. Frankly she was very very sick of his attitude but didn't have the courage to do anything about it. They moved back to Pakistan a few years ago where she is living in a joint family system!
Two of the differences I have seen quite often is a lack of hospitality in karachites. They generally tend to be misers/frugal and always watch out for their own gain. Punjabis are more generous when it comes to hospitality.
Karachites are more liberal than punjabis.
Punjabis can be loud where karachites can just talk too much.
Karachites are more discriminating towards people from other areas of pakistan, punjabis in particular, whereas punjabis discriminate amongst themselves too.
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Mehnaz, sorry dear, you have an olivy complexion (like Moona’s), which is still very beautiful nonetheless 
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That's interesting FF. How do Punjabis discriminate among themselves?
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i haven't have the chance to interact much with karachites....but there is one girl .....she is the nicest girl ever........n if she represents the urdu speakings .....then they are really nice n caring people.....plus very friendly!!
n i agree .....karachites talk too much ....(but then again i'm no lesser with certain people)
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What does it matter if someone is gora or kala? It’s not like one is worse than the other.
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Catty with that cast system and all...
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Really? I'm from a very traditional Punjabi family and we have never discriminated based on caste.
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But all the examples show certain families. Hardly cover all the Urdu speaking and Punjabi speaking people. These are generalizations. Urdu men more caring, Punjabi men more dominating etc are just like saying Muslim women are oppressed or that all African Americans are illiterate etc. Big huge generalizations. These simply might be true for "one" family, not an entire group of people. For example I come from a family which includes people from all over, yet I have not found these traits in just one group. And doubt ever will.
As for the whole gora kala thing. Thats simple. People from the Northern parts are more fair compared to people who are lets say from karachi etc. Its not that one is better looking than the other. Its just the regions. Physical looks differ from region to region inside of Pakistan, just as they do from country to country.
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Isn;t there always the thing about jatts being better than choudharys being better than mughals so on and so forth. Every one thinks they are the best and the others are below them. Not wanting to marry out of their cast is another commonly prevailing trait amongst many punjabis.
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khawateen, I gotta agree with most of what you said, if not all of it.
Punjabi men being stone hearted - well, I would put it as them being rude and disrespectful towards women (age and relationship) doesn't matter.
For instance, since I work at a desi mithai store, most of the customers are desis and all they can do is complain day in and day out. However, it's mainly the Punjabi men who have been the rudest towards me. They treat us (others and I) like crap and say quite rude (don't swear) things and often make a fuss out of every little thing. Whereas, men from Karachi hardly ever lose temper or are disrespectful towards any of us. Women generally are the best and the nicest.
Again, this is how my personal experience has been at work. One of my aunts is married in a Punjabi family and masha'Allah her husband is an extremely nice gentleman. Therefore, I would say most punjabi men I've met are rude with a few exceptions, such as my uncle.
It is quite often noticed amongst friends and family that Punjabi men tend to dominate their household and women. Whatever they say mostly happens and women don't get to make the final decision or have much say in it. This experience has been with well educated families and many of the women admit that's how it is for them.
Karachi men aren't all that nice either, but generally speaking they tend to listen more. However, many of them do treat their wives like crap.
SS, gotta admit I've come across many laraka women from Punjab. There are plenty amongst Karachites as well, but I always talk very cautiously with the Punjabi women, as from personal experience I know I could easily get told off.
I've noticed Punjabi households swear a lot. For instance, when my mother used to get upset, she'd call me 'pagal' or 'bad-tameez', but that's about it. Whereas, amongst Punjabis (both educated and not-so-educated), they swear a lot. I've heard words like 'kameeni', 'zaleel', etc. used towards the kids.
Punjabis may be nice, caring and friendly towards other Punjabis, but they could be quite hostile towards the Urdu speaking population and may often use Urdu speaking folks for their own benefit. Whereas, many Urdu speaking people in general don't care much about anyone, but themselves.
FF, totally! Khi-tes could be very miserly. There are very Khi-tes who are generous towards their family, so obviously guests don't count at all. Punjabis are very nice and polite towards their guests.
Also, it is widely known that Punjabi families/men make their wives work a lot. Although my aunt is very happily married, masha'Allah, however, she works a lot and cooks a lot, especially when they are expecting guests, she's gotta put out a whole bunch of dishes on the table. A few isn't enough. Amgonst Khi-tes Punjabi women are generally considered very hardworking.
It's often believed that if you decide to marry into Punjabis, you gotta prepare youself to work hard and a lot.
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ok when u guys says karachites... do u mean urdu speakers or just ppl living in karachi... ???????
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Urdu speakers
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most of the difference have already been summed up above. i just wanna add that the dowry system seems to be 'huge' among punjabis. 'car' or 'house' say kam koi jahez nahien deta. not that it doesnt happen among urdu speaking ppl, but the tradition of jahez is kinda fading away among urdu speaking ppl.
this is silly but i've noticed punjabi women loveee to put loads of make up. chahay woh ghar par ho ya bahar. seems like they always ready to go to some big wedding/party.
ofcourse these are just generalizations.
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How typical. Yet another male bashing thread.
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Sadiyah- yea i noticed some punjabi people are harsh towards people from karachi, caz as many of you said you have backgrounds from Delhi and parts of india.. I think some of them feel that you are 'hindustani', even though you are pakistani and livin in pakistan.. I donno never got that but prolly caz they speak differently and customs are different as well and most of the ladies from Khi, wear Sari's so they just associate all those characteristics as Indian.. i donno though i know some people from Karachi who are very much modern and don't fit into that description above.. So yeah you can't generalize
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i don’t mean to get into the technicals…just the widely-accepted understanding of the term “Mohajir” - which is a reference to the Urdu-speaking immigrants that are centralized in Sindh.
so you are saying that Mohajirs don’t like to refer to themselves as “Mohajirs” due to the inaccuracy of the definition? or is it because there is a stigma attached to the label? just as you mentioned a few ethnic labels that Mohajirs cannot claim, they can claim others such as Bihari or Lakhnavi/Lucknowi, etc…do these Indian ethnicities elicit condescent amongst other Pakistanis? I just get the sense that there is some shame factor involved, but i’m not sure.
yes, this is true…but again, i’m referring to the generally-accepted reference.
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^i don’t get how some punjabis consider urdu speakers “hindustani”. they were living in india too before partition. 
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u cant refer to ureself as a mohajir anymore cuz u cant be an immigrant ure whole life.. ppl who have immigrated to canada... and are citizens of that country.. tehy dotn continue calling themselves immigrants! ...
plus.. mohajirs are a huge group of ppl from different cultural backgrounds... even if they do say "we are mohajir".. they will still be asked yes but what culture are u from?! (this would only hold true for ppl who migrated from india to pakistan.. not thier offsprings)...
there is no stigma attatched to the word mohajir...
unkil Frauds summed it up pretty well...