So Islam allows us to marry people of the book i.e Christians or Jewish. But people say we cant marry a Hindu or a Sikh or Buddist and so on. Can anyone with knowledge explain that? I mean is it true that a Muslim isn’t suppose to marry a hindu or the rest.
While I’m at it what abotu Sunni-Shia marriages. I know it’s a totally different thing but just wanted to know.
Hindu, Buddhist do not fall under "people of Book", they fall under "idolators", "mushrik". and "shirk" is regarded in Quran as "zulmun azeem" (Big Sin). Marrying people of book is allowed because they believe in Allah swt, the difference is in messengers/books.
:k: there u are! brother here beat me to answering ur question
and what about Suni Shia marriages?
thx for clearing that up :k:
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and what about Suni Shia marriages?
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Sunnis are muslim and shias are muslim, so there's no problem.
just a small clarification.......if I am correct, Muslim men can marry non-Muslim women, but Muslim women cannot marry non-Muslim men....correct me if I am wrong..
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just a small clarification.......if I am correct, Muslim men can marry non-Muslim women, but Muslim women cannot marry non-Muslim men....correct me if I am wrong..
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No. Muslim men can marry women only from "people of Book" and Muslim women can marry only Muslim men.
Changez, I hope that are you using the term "can" loosely?
If Islam 'forbids' it, it doesn’t mean that they 'can't'. Just as Islam forbids alcohol, gambling, and picking your nose in public.
I think it is very important to make that distinction because it clears up lots of misconception that people base their beliefs on. Some Jahil Mullas probably think that it is "undoable" what is written in Quran, even if someone tried to.
NYA, yes u r right. Muslim men are allowed to marry Muslim women or women from "people of Book". They sure can marry anyone they want, but then that "wedding" wouldn't be "recognized" by the "Muslim community" for which you may not care as much.
I think that was precisely NYA's point.. who gives a flying phuk for the community? they ain't the boss of everybody and they certainly haven't been appointed by any God to oversee everyone else's actions.. so why not let God be the judge of that?
I couldn't find the verse in the Qur'an prohibiting Muslim women from marrying people of the Book.. can someone help?
[5.5] This day (all) the good things are allowed to you; and the food of those who have been given the Book is lawful for you and your food is lawful for them; and the chaste from among the believing women and the chaste from among those who have been given the Book before you (are lawful for you); when you have given them their dowries, taking (them) in marriage, not fornicating nor taking them for paramours in secret; and whoever denies faith, his work indeed is of no account, and in the hereafter he shall be one of the losers.
and the chaste from among the believing women and the chaste from among those who have been given the Book before you <<<<
This is very sexist and racist. If I read it correctly, it say that it is OK to get their women, but not OK for your women to marry their men.
Changez, could these Ayats be time and period specific? Like at the time they were revealed, which could have been a time of conflict among different people of the book, and when warriors were men? Do you really think that these Ayats apply today? Just as some of the racist stuff in Surah-Almuyida that says that Jews and Christians will never be your friends and not trustworthy? Well, if they are not trustworthy, why bother to marry their women?
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*Originally posted by Changez_like: *
Hindu, Buddhist do not fall under "people of Book", they fall under "idolators", "mushrik". and "shirk" is regarded in Quran as "zulmun azeem" (Big Sin). Marrying people of book is allowed because they believe in Allah swt, the difference is in messengers/books.
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this laws apply only in mulism countries. but muslims are minorities
in many countries . local law may not prevent muslim women marrying
anybody she wants . sharia is not the accepted by non-muslim
courts .
**Originally posted by NYAhmadi: *
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This is very sexist and racist. If I read it correctly, it say that it is OK to get their women, but not OK for your women to marry their men.*
You may file your complain when you attend Allah swts court on judgment day.
Changez, could these Ayats be time and period specific? Like at the time they were revealed, which could have been a time of conflict among different people of the book, and when warriors were men? Do you really think that these Ayats apply today?...
NYA, honestly I don't have much info on this one, I went thru brief intro of sura 5 which says that it was AFTER Hudaibya Treaty, which means that it was after the conflict was over. Also, that intro suggests that this sura gives definite "halal and haram". You may read Moulana Moududi's intro yourself and conclude on your own what this verse means (whether time specific or not).
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this laws apply only in mulism countries. but muslims are minorities
in many countries . local law may not prevent muslim women marrying
anybody she wants . sharia is not the accepted by non-muslim
courts .
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rvikz, we are not dicussing "man-made law". Man made laws are geographically bounded, God made laws are NOT bounded by geography, they HAVE to be followed wherever Muslims are. If a Muslim decides to marry a Hindu, he certainly can do it anywhere in the world, but the problem will be when he faces God on judgment day.
I was aware of that verse alllowing men to marry women of the Book.. i was more looking for one prohibiting women from marrying men of the Book..
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rvikz, we are not dicussing "man-made law". Man made laws are geographically bounded, God made laws are NOT bounded by geography, they HAVE to be followed wherever Muslims are. If a Muslim decides to marry a Hindu, he certainly can do it anywhere in the world, but the problem will be when he faces God on judgment day.
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if god had made the laws about this muslim and hindu cant have
children together. by nature they belong to same species.
we are discussing law as in Quran, not “law of nature”. yes Muslims, Hindus, Jews, Christians, Buddhists are all Human being, but what we are discussing is what is allowed by God for “believer”.
amnybody can come up with “gods” laws and persecute muslims
also.