Crooked Indian call centre workers

This has happened before, so this is not surprising.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2005280724,00.html

**Indian call centre ‘fraud’ probe **

Police are investigating reports that an Indian call centre worker sold the bank account details of 1,000 UK customers to an undercover reporter. The Sun claims one of its journalists bought the personal details from an IT worker in Delhi for £4.25 each. They included account holders’ secret passwords, addresses, phone numbers and passport details, it reports. City of London Police has begun an investigation after being handed a dossier by the newspaper. The centre worker reportedly told the Sun he could sell up to 200,000 account details each month. Details handed to the reporter had been examined by a security expert who had indicated they were genuine, the paper said. The information passed on could have been used to raid the accounts of victims or to clone credit cards.

‘Reflect on decision’

More than one bank is thought to be involved in the fraud. A police spokeswoman said officers were not yet aware of “the breadth of what we are going to be investigating”. “While the allegations made in the dossier are very serious, City of London Police would like to remind people that incidents of this kind are still relatively rare,” she said. The Amicus union said it had warned of the “data protection implications” of offshoring financial services. “Companies that have offshore jobs need to reflect on their decision and the assumption that cost savings benefiting them and their shareholders outweigh consumer confidentiality and confidence,” senior finance officer Dave Fleming said.

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fkers!

I hope they fry all those Indian call staff and the ones that commit the fraud too.

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^ ameen.

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It has happened before.

http://www.telegraphindia.com/1050415/asp/frontpage/story_4618024.asp

**Call centre staff dial dollar crime

  • India’s reputation takes a knock as first big fraud hits BPO industry **

Meet Ivin Thomas, 30, and an MBA, now in custody. And the leader of Pune’s BPO Sixteen, India’s answer to Ocean’s Eleven. Only, Thomas is real, which is bad news for India’s booming BPO business. Outsourcing has been given a whole new meaning by Thomas and his compatriots who have worked at one point or another in MsourcE, the BPO outfit of Jerry Rao-led MphasiS BFL. With arrests over the past week or so, India’s first major financial crime in the BPO business has come to light, giving the country a bad name and triggering dire predictions of a huge setback to prospects. Ivin and his colleagues siphoned $425,000 (Rs 1.83 crore) off the accounts of Citibank’s New York customers and deposited the money in different bank accounts in Pune between February and March 2005. Pune police, who have arrested 16 former and current employees of MsourcE, said the group used the stolen money to holiday in Goa and a foreign country. MsourcE largely handles customer relationship management at its 2,500-strong Pune centre for some 35 clients, including Citibank.

An MphasiS spokesperson said: “MphasiS has taken this incident with all the seriousness it deserves. We have instituted our own internal inquiry and taken necessary short-term and long-term measures in consultation with Nasscom.” Nasscom is the information technology industry association. The fraud was detected in early April when Citibank’s New York office received a complaint from an account-holder who was denied a money withdrawal. Three other account-holders made a similar complaint. The obvious inference is that the Group of 16 had taken so much money out of their accounts that there was little left. The police have so far traced two transactions, one worth $350,000 and another of $75,000. “Alarmed, they (Citibank) traced the transactions to Pune, and alerted their Indian counterparts. The Citibank officers filed a complaint with us, and we decided to lay a trap on April 4,” said Sanjay Jadhav, Pune’s assistant commissioner of police who heads the cyber crime cell. The police contacted the banks where the money was being transferred and alerted them. The accounts were frozen immediately on police orders and the banks asked to inform the authorities if any account-holder turned up. “Rupee (Cooperative) Bank people were very alert and effective and phoned us a day later when Ivin Thomas walked into the bank. We were lucky that we got the prime suspect straightaway,” said Jadhav.

Thomas, who belongs to a middle-class family, led the police to his other friends, 20-year-old Siddarth Mehta, and 24-year-old Stephen Daniel. All three were once employed with MsourcE. The police said they worked as customer relationship managers and had performed the miracle of acquiring the Net banking pins, or online banking passwords, of Citibank customers. They used these passwords to take money out, operating from Internet cafes, the police added. Investigations led the police to nine others who had opened bank accounts to deposit the money. The police have recovered cash worth Rs 10 lakh, two cars, a computer, and three cameras, including a handycam. Jadhav said the police had identified Thomas, Mehta, Daniel and 25-year-old Marylene Fernandes as the key people in the crime. The others helped them to transfer the money into various accounts. “All four come from respectable families,” Jadhav added. The majority in the Group of 16 are in their twenties. The police discovered that Daniel had worked with the Defence Research and Development Organisation before joining MsourcE. The link has attracted the eyes of the Intelligence Bureau.

On April 6, Pune police commissioner D.N. Jadhav announced the arrest of 12 people, sending the BPO industry into a tizzy. A day later, John McCarthy of Forrester Research, which does research for technology companies, warned that the fraud could severely damage the credibility of Indian BPO companies and slow their growth by 30 per cent. So far there has been no business impact on MsourcE. According to sources in Pune, Citibank officials were in town and the relationship between the two continues. But the incident would have caused some embarrassment to Jerry Rao, who had once headed Citibank in India. Nasscom president Kiran Karnik lauded the speedy action taken by Pune police and said the organisation would assist them in strengthening the e-security framework

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stop being so jealous and critical! one ex-Citibanker runs Mphasis and another is FM in Pakistan...just remember that

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Crooks and thieves are common place not just within indian subcontinent you can buy the bank details of customers in any western nation if you know where to look and who to speak to

I don’t understand the shock of UK public they have crooks on thier own doorsteps stealing their details i suspect this media hype has a slight racist element to it. Not defending India or these thieves but this has to be taken from a worldview why are they focusing on this story what is media agenda and it is well known in the UK there has been a big reaction to jobs being moved abroad to places like china and india see this thread

http://www.paklinks.com/gs/showthread.php?t=185830

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What has this do with jealousy?

Hundreds of thousands of American jobs have gone to Latin America and the far east, but you don’t see stories of greedy crooks from there.

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i diont think your useless propaganda works.

India clinches $12bn steel deal

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/4120384.stm

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Bravo, you quoted from the BBC, which also reported that “propoganda” about Indian crooks ripping off western customers.

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Bring the jobs back to the West. Security is being sacrificed for cost.

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I dont see why people are defending these idiots who make indians look bad..

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it also creates jobs in west

Airbus forecasts India will buy 570 aircraft by 2023

http://www.usatoday.com/travel/flights/2005-06-21-india-airbus_x.htm

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Security, as well as quality of service. A lot of these workers in India have fake degrees as well.

http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4094894.stm

Outsourcing exposes firms to fraud

Thousands of call centre jobs have sprouted up in India in recent years
The arrest last week of a man in western India in an alleged call-centre fraud case went unreported. This was despite the high-profile reporting on the case in April when 16 others were arrested. This suited India’s business process outsourcing (BPO) companies, especially Mphasis, whose four employees have been implicated in the case. They are yet to recover from the shock of the alleged fraud of nearly $400,000. Amid calls for tightening BPO regulations and more effective cyber laws the country’s call centres are busy taking adequate security measures. Another one or two such cases and the industry is doomed, they admit. Police, who are still investigating the case, believe it was well thought through and very organised. **Investigating officer Sanjay Yadav says the latest arrest just highlights how well-planned and widespread the fraud was. **

Backlash fears

Police say some of the 17 people currently languishing in jail opened fake accounts, and allegedly transferred large sums from the bank accounts of four American customers of Citibank whose back office work was being done by Mphasis in Pune near Mumbai. Mr Yadav says they went on a luxurious holiday to Bangkok and kept transferring more money into their fake accounts from the Thai capital. The industry, fearing a backlash from clients in the West, has started to get its act together. One of the security steps the BPO centres are taking is the stringent background screening of new employees. Yogesh Bhura, whose company, Quest Research, undertakes this task, has more than 250 BPO customers. He has clients all over Asia, but many of his new customers are Indian. **But Mr Bhura’s main challenge remains “educating people of the need to make this critical activity an integral part of their recruitment policy.” He reveals that 10-25% of applicants to call centres provide false and incorrect information. “Fake degrees and documents are a major concern of our clients,” he says. **

Screening

But verifying an applicant’s criminal background remains the most challenging task for companies such as Mr Bhura’s and he admits it: “It’s a grey area: there’s no central data of criminals, there’s no standardised process of data storage in police stations. It’s a continuous challenge.” Many believe background screening is not enough. Mr Bhura is quick to add a rider: “It’s a risk mitigation and not a risk elimination activity.” But one of his clients, Intellinet Global Services, a joint venture between HDFC and Barclays, says background verification is not the only security tool it’s applying. “We take a lot of precautions,” says Manuel D’Souza, the company’s HR head. “We don’t allow mobile phones in the office, no e-mail access is provided; pen and papers are not allowed in and all employees are screened when they leave the office.” But experts say call centres are a young industry in India. It still doesn’t have a comprehensive security management system in place. Vinod Singh, boss of Bangalore-based security management company Ilantus, is alarmed by the state of affairs the BPO companies are in. “Our understanding of most of the BPOs that we have been surveying is that they have put the basic IT systems in place, they have put in a lot of money, but the management of IT infrastructure is not up to the mark,” he says. This is one of the major problems with the $4bn BPO industry, which began to flourish in India just five years ago.

Security hole

According to industry estimates, 80% of BPO companies don’t use integrated security management tools. That probably explains why some current and former employees of Mphasis, which has a security certification from an international trade body, allegedly stole huge sums belonging to its clients in the U.S. Ilantus surveyed seven call centres in Bangalore and to its horror found that the digital IDs of the former employees still existed, which potentially can be misused. But Mr D’Souza says most companies would immediately delete the IDs of the employees who are leaving them. Growth brings in its own pressures. Back office business is one of India’s sunshine industries, growing at 30% annually. The workforce is young, loyalty is low as the young boys and girls move to greener pastures at the first opportunity. For most of them it’s not a career option, but a good first job out of college. The workforce turnover is as high as 40%. Work from the US and Europe is pouring in thick and fast.

Cyber squad

Industry players admit they know security is the top priority, but they say there is no time to implement all the security measures. Mr Bhura says background screening is just one of the security measures: “Internal security control has to be the most important component of the overall security system”. Mr Singh of Ilantus too cannot guarantee a foolproof internal security system. “Our system is not 100%, but it dramatically reduces the risks.” But one can take a lot of satisfaction from the fact that a relatively small city like Pune has a Cyber Crime Cell. The alleged fraud was committed in Pune-based Mphasis and it was busted by the city’s Cyber Crime Cell. As Mr Yadav of the Cell says: “We have acted swiftly to bust the fraud and recovered most of the money siphoned off. Pune police are providing a safe environment for BPO customers from the West.” Till the time the authorities come up with tighter legislations, the Cyber Crime Cells in Indian cities are the best bet.

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wallah send jobs to pakistan then musharaff for sure live in boston

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We speak better English than you guys anway. :stuck_out_tongue:

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i never claimed that i speak better angrezi.but for sure i speak better khichadi language(mix up of hindi,urdu,punjabi,angrezi,hinglish) and i can challenge u that u cant beat me in that lol.
Achci baat hai ji aap hum se khoobsoorat angrezi bolate khuda aapki angrezi aise hi din dooni raat chogani shudhare.:flower2:

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Really? What do you know about crime in Korea and Belize?

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that’s funny:D

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Hundreds of thousands of American jobs have gone to tiny Belize?

Why is it that only we only see examples of Indian’s ripping off western customers, and not from call centres in other places?

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coz they r in india and we r the worlds best known corrupt ppl:D