Crappy Bollywood !!

Bollywood madness

We received an urgent call from my sister who was in Turkey on an exchange programme. For a week she had been plagued by locals on news about a Raj Kapoor who was ailing. She figured out he was ‘some’ Hindi actor, but knew little else.

When she called, he had already passed away and DD was running obituaries, thanks to which we were slightly better informed. We furnished her with names of some famous films of his.

For us, knowledge of Hindi films did not extend beyond Lata Mangeshkar and Amitabh Bachchan. My father’s Dravidian ideology and rationalism also meant Hindi-phobia. We were brought up on a diet of Sivaji Ganesan (my father’s favourite), Rajnikanth (thanks to my boy cousins) and Kamal Hassan (simply because my family has a large number of women).

The first Hindi film I went for in a theatre was because my parents could not turn down my brand new brother-in-law from Bangalore. He took us for a late show to the Safire theatre (now a dilapidated and disputed structure) to watch Jackie Shroff romance Meenakshi Seshadri in ‘Hero’.

In college, too, I saw a few more movies but I am not much of a Hindi film-watcher, unless it has Aamir Khan or Kajol.

The reach of Hindi films never ceases to amaze me. Certain things are either inexplicable or have no one explanation. Like why film watching is the premier pastime of Indians. Why we have the largest turnover of films in the world. Why we excel in mediocre film-making and senseless Hollywood rip-offs. And yet why millions in India and abroad are enamoured by it.

My cousin lived in Moscow briefly. On the metro, she would regularly be accosted by middle-aged women who wanted to discuss Hindi films. Her knowledge on the subject was far worse than mine.

A friend living in Tehran had to make urgent calls home to find out how Shah Rukh Khan was doing, because her distraught Iranian maid had heard rumours in the market that he had met with an accident.

One of my professors at the Pune Film Institute recounted an incident from an International Film Festival in Moscow. A large crowd of fans was waiting outside the hotel where the stars were put up. They politely cheered top Hollywood stars as they walked. Some even approached them for autographs.

But it was a green kurta-clad figure that triggered a near stampede. Only after Mithun Chakraborthy (oh, yes, him!) had given his quota of autographs, kisses and hugs did the crowd allow him to proceed.

I witness this Bollywood appeal first-hand here in Doha. Hindi film music from most taxis, even those driven by non-Indians.

An Afghan taxi driver asked me if I was from Dilip Kumar’s city. I told him I was from Madras and he smiled, “Hemamalini.”

Hindi film cassettes are in great demand and at the cinema, the audience is made up of Arabs, Egyptians, Pakistanis, Bangladeshis and the occasional East Asian and Westerner.

An ex-colleague of mine from Egypt, who spoke only Arabic, had a large repertoire of Hindi songs he could render on request. His mother was a sworn Hindi film fan, and that had rubbed off on him.

I still can’t grasp why Hindi films are so popular. Yes, a ‘Lagaan’ or a ‘Company’ I can understand. But a ‘Devdas’ (and every other Hindi film for that matter), that is neither original nor realistic but only overtly melodramatic?

‘No Man’s Land’, a Bosnian film that beat ‘Lagaan’ at the Oscars, probably had a budget smaller than a Hindi dance director’s fees. In sheer cinematic experience, it was worth a hundred Hindi films.

Why is it that we can’t make a ‘Life is Beautiful’, so free of nonsense and so full of emotions.

Films need not be perfect. They need not even be realistic. But they need to be, at least, entertaining or thought-provoking. Hindi films do neither. They promote anorexia, Swiss tourism, chauvinism and ‘Madrasi’ stereotypes.

Its storylines are not even as deep as Preity Zinta’s dimples. Yet its appeal grows. At a scary rate. And film-makers could well wrongly construe this popularity to be a measure of quality!

Nitpickin southie! :)

Bolly's changing, MM. Slowly, but surely. Don't forget films are a reflection of society, so the blame has to lie with illiterate filmgoers.

Until very recently the Indian public has been subject to push advertising fo bollywood. the mantra has been, "if you build it they would come. "

There is a subtle shift that is happening. Have you not noticed hte biggest flops in th epast two years have been much heralded pieces by ht eindustry themself? I was speaing to a producer in Bombay, when I was there and he said that the industry is going to change with the power being shifted to the writers and screenplays themselves than the actors because the indies ar edoing very well. Success of crossover movies have made it doubly hard for them to continue with the status quo. Plus another thing is driving the change. Multiplexes!!! The consumer has now the option to see or not any any movie they want. The word will get out sooner on the movie and box office stays will be shorter for losers and longer for winners. the economics are changing.

so my little dark skinned booby…you are headed in the right direction

On a side note. Is it just me or watching souties dance around is a bit odd. Plus, how come the guys are like 80 but the chicks are younger but with a nbody of a 45 yr old lady? :bummer:

Mat you're such a meanie sometimes! lol

MM, don't mind him. Well he's right, why are the south heroines so FAT! The heroes are lechy AND fat! And why does Kamalhassan (60 now) act with 18 yr olds and kiss them like a 20 yr old.

I'd like some input from Pakistanis on this. Do they find Bollywood going in the right direction with new storylines etc? After all we share the same emotional traits to identify with so many situations on celluloid.

Inidan ke dukhti rag pe hath or maybe tang rakh di :hehe:

^^ kya??

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Open up urdu dictionary.

indian movies are trying hard to be accepted by non-indian audiences. the problem is that they soon will be indistinguishable from other films. they seem bound by the need to throw in a song when plot does not need it. they are picking up raunch, thinking that it will make them acceptable. it will not.

in truth, the lifeblood of the industry is "masala" pictures and as long as that is what the public wants, that is what the public will get. most "hatt ke" pictures get rejected by the audience. i saw lagaan and thought it was pathetic. On the other hand Monsoon Wedding was pretty good but then again it wasn't exactly a superhit in India.

Re: Crappy Bollywood !!

Marathi Maanus - You have been watching wrong movies :slight_smile: Ever heard the movie called ‘Anand’ - It will beat the crap out of ‘Life is beautiful’ any day.

Sawaliye - Ro mat, chhup-chhup ke bollywood ki movies dekhta reh :hehe:

:k: :k:

Good choice Asif,
the likes of movies such as Anand, Ijaazat, Lekin, Masoom can compete intenationally any day.

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I know youre gonna say my response is biased, but I liked the old bollywood, the ones that great people like Raj Kapoor, Amitabh, Dilip, Raj Kumar etc built... Now its all about glamour and exposure.

^^ Not necessarily - films like teen deewarein are excellent. A mix of glamour, technology and strong story line is ideal. I don't miss old times but if I had a magic wand I would definitely make another Dilip Kumar for today. No one in the world can match him.

Umar- I didn't know anyone had watched and liked 'Lekin' (with dimple). It's one of my all time favourites. Haunting. :)

Bollywood is changing, they are giving more importance to scritps and young directors are not afraid to experiment - just the other day I saw a movie called 'GangaJal' based on a real life story in Bihar and I was impressed by it. Go Bollywood :)

Karina,

I don't know what in that movie magnetizes me to the screen every time I watch it... I was watching it just last week.

Umar, everything about that movie was classic. The desert, the story, the haveli...and dimple who was fab.

It was a big flop in India. Pity. :)

Btw I'm glad someone here didn't like Lagaan, I thought it was too stupid.

I thought Zubeida deserved to go to the Oscars - wonder if anyone saw this movie?

I saw it and it was an okay movie. Perhaps I am biased because I cant stand Rekha and Karishma.

Lagaan was stup!d too.

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I saw it and it was an okay movie. Perhaps I am biased because I cant stand Rekha and Karishma.

Lagaan was stup!d too.
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I thought u liked it?

the reason I liked Lagaan was because in my opinion the movie had a really original idea to draw on cricket (which even the young Indian viewer can relate to) to explicate the mayhem of erstwhile.

The cricket was a good idea but the rest of the movie was done very badly. The Brits were caricatures, so were the villagers. I don't know how anyone could even think of putting it up for the oscars.