Covering Hair When Reading Quran

[diwana]

Re: Covering Hair When Reading Quran

@psyah

Dearest brother diwana

If it is not possible to understand the meaning of parts of the Qur’an then how can it be necessary? If a layman conducts his affairs as per what his learned teacher gives and explains to him to be from the Sunnah and the layman recites the Qur’an out of love without understanding … He is a Muslim well rewarded.

We are asked to study Arabic - in our endeavour to understand Islamic scripture. It may be that we can never learn it … then are we disadvantaged by our requirements? How can Allah (SWT) class piety as something hinged to understanding? Rather things like sincerity and effort are the basis for judgement.

It may be that someone does not have great understanding and it may be that he learns the Arabic and even after he learns the translation he does not understand it - so what has the translation availed him? I know people who when told in English and they being native English speakers what it means to be “guided on the straight path” - they will not be able to think beyond a tight rope act … or what the word “guide” actually means …

Trust me there are people out there who can’t understand these things.

I’m sure you will know of at least one person who is like this … but they may be very sincere to their faith and pray five times a day. We only need to believe in the unseen. That is not hard. There is a position for scholars and they are there to learn and understand and guide others … their account will be harsher - so their understanding will not mean they are more pious either.

But I accept the fact that you disagree with me … It is hard to think of a Book that is just read without knowing what one is reading …

I can recall a hadith that the Day of Judgement will not occur until the last person saying Allah Allah has died … Before his death he will be asked what he is saying and he will not know - he will say that he remembered his forefather saying this and to repeat it gives him comfort.

First let me say I feel for RV to have her thread going in a different direction. Not my intention. If mods feel like, it can be split.

Now:

Peace Psyah Bro!

I respect you a lot but do differ here with you.

I did not go in to detail on what you wrote earlier and here it is.

@psyah

The two sections red and green is the evidence to demonstrate that **merely reciting the Qur’an is part of the purpose of the Qur’an **… It is because there are sections of it that we cannot possibly understand but we recite them nonetheless and each part is rewarded … even the parts we cannot understand.

This is very weird idea in my humble opinion and understanding.

I have no idea where did this concept come from and I do not see it came from your red and green paragraphs.

Both green and red parts did not say one should recite Quran without understanding it.

If Alif Laam Meem cannot be understood then keep going, you get the sawaab but what about the rest of Quran?

Should one act lazy and not even try to understand what the rest of Quran means?

It can easily be seen that all red and green means, is the emphasis on reciting. So one is encouraged to recite/read.

**Quran did not come to mankind for mere recitation like parrots. Nor it makes sense to think like that.
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Quran itself says it a a book of Hikmat. How is one gets to Hikmat part without understanding even the meaning of it, let alone knowing the tafseer?

I know you will say you do not deny the importance of translation or tafseer and saying that even recitation has sawaab.

But there is a problem with this kind of logic.

A lot of people recite Quran and even during their daily prayer without even knowing what they are saying.

People just rely on local half learned Mullah on telling them what any particular verse or Iyat means and think their responsibility is over. And then bigger problems begin.
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At least people should know what they are reciting and keeping the translation in mind.**

Not everyone need to learn Arabic but at least try and if not then what is the problem in reading the translation from various sources?

It’s not like translation of Quran is not available these days from many translators.

Last example from you regarding the day of judgment may simply means that day of judgment will be closer if there are people left
in this world who do not even know the meaning of word ‘Allah’, hence it is more important to get on and read the translation with Quran recitaion and not just recitation.