Country does not need half-Pakistanis as representatives: Fakhruddin G Ebrahim

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Re: Country does not need half-Pakistanis as representatives: Fakhruddin G Ebrahim

Correction.

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Re: Country does not need half-Pakistanis as representatives: Fakhruddin G Ebrahim

This dual nationality ban isn't such a bad thing. It's not like dual-nationals can never run for office, it's just that the they have to give up their other nationality if they ever want to represent Pakistanis.

This isn't something new or unheard of. The Pakistan Army does not recruit dual-nationals and for that matter neither does the US army, they don't state it directly, however your chances of getting a security clearance are slim if you insist on keeping the other nationlity.

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Re: Country does not need half-Pakistanis as representatives: Fakhruddin G Ebrahim

Baat to sach hey magar baat hey ruswaai ki :cb:

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Re: Country does not need half-Pakistanis as representatives: Fakhruddin G Ebrahim

I don't have superiority complex, but truth hurts, doesn't it? And what prevents you from building the system? And, oh yea, every Pakistani who ever made it to west was handed everything on silver platter by goras.

Btw, its rich coming from a guy who justified attacks on KFC by mullah mob because their food was bad, and they had insurance to cover it. For some ignorance is bliss.

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double post

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Re: Country does not need half-Pakistanis as representatives: Fakhruddin G Ebrahim

Its the same thing that prevented the ''half pakistanis'' to
build the system here, who chose instead to flee the country and flourish in the system built by the hosts and their ancestors.

The words quoted below are self explanatory as to the extent of supreiority complex.

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**us "half-Pakistanis" don't want to represent you internally in politics, but if full-Pakistanis **were half as hardworking, honest and and educated as the halfs..**
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now tell me, what causes you to be more hardworking/honest/educated compared to the pakistanis?? oh wait, its the gora country system isn't it? there has to be some reason for your kind to be good at everything that pakistanis aren't??

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*And, oh yea, every Pakistani who ever made it to west was handed everything on silver platter by goras.
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i don't see a rebuttal here. now i didn't mention silver platter, just mentioned that all your ''achievements'' compared to the pakistanis are solely due to the host system. If you were inherently good as you claim to be, and the gora system didn't have to do anything with it..you could easily have done it in paksitan too...don't you think?

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Really disappointed with this comment. You are either saying that a Pakistani becomes honest, hard working and educated as soon as he or she acquires another nationality or that only honest, hardworking and educated Pakistanis acquire another nationality. Amazing logic, either way!

I would say if the 'half Pakistanis' worked hard and honestly in Pakistan as they do abroad, Pakistan could be Singapore or South Korea.

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Why are you disappointed? That is the truth. People complain about govt failing to provide services, but they don't want to pay taxes, cheat system at every turn, steal electricity, water and the list goes on. And those are "pure" Pakistanis according to FGE.

Btw, I never said acquiring foreign nationality makes you honest ,or hard working or guarantees you success, but his comments were condescending to over 4.5 million people working and sending home aprx $ US 15 billion annually that keep nation afloat.

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I think Fakhruddin's comments were with regards to dual nationals serving in the parliament and we should take them as such. I dont think dual nationals should be in assemblies, but other than that they have to play a much bigger role in Pakistan's development but the initiative for engaging them should come from the government.

Overseas Pakistanis have contributed a lot in the development of the country. This phenomena is not alien, the same happened in India and China as well. Their expats also sent money back home to help develop their countries, and when they took off, they went back with the experience gained in foreign countries to help them go further. If the government pulls its act together, I believe Pakistani expats would also play a much bigger role in the development of the country.

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Re: Country does not need half-Pakistanis as representatives: Fakhruddin G Ebrahim

Bhai Jaan, anyone would be tempted to steal the electricity, evade taxes if there were no strict laws or system to prevent. Just sayin, not you personally.

Majority of those who are working and sending money to Pakistan are not really settled outside the country and may not even be so educated. Those who are really settled outside country, the elite class or educated class, they talk more but do less.

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Re: Country does not need half-Pakistanis as representatives: Fakhruddin G Ebrahim

The uneducated creep has actually used the term Half Pakistani wrongly :omg:

someone would be a half Pakistani if either their mother or father was Pakistani while the other parent from some other country of origin … but then jaahil ko kon samjaaye?

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Re: Country does not need half-Pakistanis as representatives: Fakhruddin G Ebrahim

You brought one definition of what could be a half Pakistani or half any countryman would be. But in the context what he said, one **can **use this word for dual nationals.

He did not ask you before saying that. That’s all. :smiley:

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^ I dont think so, for context he could have used other words .. clearly he doesnt know what the term means .. and by the way he's offended a heck of a load of people outside Pakistan ... so what ever he's said it not only immature but also shows how much of a biased and a racist individual he is ..

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Re: Country does not need half-Pakistanis as representatives: Fakhruddin G Ebrahim

First! You got the point. he meant dual nationals by using word half Pakistani.

Second, your definition is baced on race, his definition is based on nationality. How difficult is that to grasp? Why be so adamant on one definition?

Your other point of him being immature, biased or racist holds no water.

There are many countries which do not allow dual nationality to begin with, and even then the country is not run by dual nationals where dual nationality maybe allowed.

So why force Pakistan to have people with dual nationality holding key positions?

I asked the question earlier why?

Why do they have the desire to run the country or be on high position when they are not even 'pure Pakistani nationals'?

Perhaps they can vote for others and enjoy other benefits of citizenship of Pakistan but not at high level or security position etc.

Nothing wrong with not allowing them to be on these positions. That is not being biased, or racist etc.

Added: I do not see why would anyone be so sensitive or offended in being called half Pakistani when the person himself/herself decided to have dual nationality.

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the people being termed ''half pakistanis'' are those who loot and plunder when in office and then move abroad. I don't know of many normal/clean non resident pakistanis who are running for office.

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Living in Pakistan changes your definition of offensive. Being called a Half-Pakistani is nothing compared to being treated like a regular Pakistan not in in the bureacracy, army or politics. You can feel the discrimination everywhere. Getting bullied by VIPs on the road is a lot more offensive than, being called a Half-Pakistani.

PS: Whoever said is extremely insensitive and stupid. He should have used reason and logic to support his argument, instead of calling out names, but naw our politicians don't do that.

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Would you agree that those who acquired foreign nationality (or their parents) didn't pay taxes, cheated systems, stole electricity, etc. when in Pakistan? I was referring to your comment (below) implying that somehow those Pakistanis who acquire another nationality are innately much more hardworking, honest and educated than those who do not. Your comment was condescending to over 170 million Pakistanis living there.

I agree that 'half-Pakistani' might not be good term to describe dual-nationality holders but that doesn't mean that you start degrading those who have nothing to do with this debate.

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I didn't know that dual-nationality holder is a race. My bad.

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**Put your "Money" where your "big mouth" is,

if your money in Swish Bank, then take care of your Banking Country with your "big mouth" and big Vote!

why run for office in Poor Pakistan!

Kapeesh?

But Pakistan is the Goose that Lays the Gold eggs for Croocked Politians........thats why!**