Correctional officers during salah

[Afshi]

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SeekersGuidance - A Detailed Exposition of the Fiqh of Covering One’s Nakedness (awra) - Answers

[Afshi]

Re: Correctional officers during salah

@canadiandesigirl

I meant to post this here last night:

All the Arabs cover their feet and wear socks which is fine but they always tell us Pakistanis that we have to cover our feet. Just today a lady told my younger sisters she has to cover her feet its haram to have them show while praying. I personally think little things like this don’t make a difference so we shouldn’t nit pick and tell others to do exactly as we do.

So question is does one have to cover their feet while praying or not?

what you personally think and what Islam states could be two different things, no? It is best to take the advice of a scholar/imam you respect and follow your madhab.

[KKF]

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@Iconoclast

Thats the right way of doing it.

BTW, there are so many sects that sometimes i don't know whether people are making a mistake or that how they pray in their fiqh.

exactly...i didn't mean to take him to the side and yelkl at him...of course, i would inquire if he follows another fiqh and if it is in accordance with what he practice...i will never make this an opening statement..."did you know that you made a mistake while praying?"...i would rather handle this tactfully and ask him..."brother, i do my prayer THIS way [and show him your way] but i noticed that you did a bit differently...am i making a mistake or something?"...i'm sure that will lead to a very fruitful discussion and this way you have conveyed your message politely without offending him outright!

[canadiandesigirl]

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@Afshi

SeekersGuidance - A Detailed Exposition of the Fiqh of Covering One’s Nakedness (awra) - Answers

Thanks and for others reference the following is from the link Afshi provided:

A woman’s Awra whilst performing Salat consists of the whole body except the face, hands and feet. Allah Most High says: “O children of Adam! Wear your beautiful apparel (zeenah) at every time and place of prayer.” (Surah al-A’raf, 31)

[NS2]

@BarbieCue

@sahr

how many of you know that when doing sajdah, one should directly go into sajdah instead of sitting and then doing sajdah? And after doing the second sajdah, one should stand directly instead of sitting first then standing..I didnt know until last year..and Iv seen alot of women doing it wrongly..

For women, it is practically impossible to go into sajdah without sitting down first. We’re required to rest on our left buttock and take both our feet out to the right before going into sajdah. I was trying this out when praying Zuhr and there’s no way you can go straight into sajdah without sitting down first.

If I’m wrong, provide a reference and correct me.

Im sorry but I dont have any internet reference:) I was corrected by an aalima..then I asked many religious people about it..even an aalim..and found out that its the right way..it was difficult at first(to adjust to a new way)but its do-able..I can easily do it now..
Maybe check with a religious personality around you:confused:

[PyariCgudia]

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What I don't get is how do you get the time to notice someone else's mistakes? That means you're not paying attention to your own prayers or you're sitting around peering at people instead of reading the Quran or doing something productive.

[canadiandesigirl]

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@Afshi

what you personally think and what Islam states could be two different things, no? It is best to take the advice of a scholar/imam you respect and follow your madhab.

That's what I meant that every madhab does things slightly different so we shouldn't think what others are doing is wrong.

[NS2]

Correctional officers during salah

Yup its not obligatory to cover feet but what about ankle? Someone told me ankle should be covered but sometimes during prayer it becomes visible:bummer: maybe thats why they wear socks:konfused:

[Iconoclast]

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@BarbieCue

For women, it is practically impossible to go into sajdah without sitting down first. We're required to rest on our left buttock and take both our feet out to the right before going into sajdah. I was trying this out when praying Zuhr and there's no way you can go straight into sajdah without sitting down first.

If I'm wrong, provide a reference and correct me.

This is the first time for me to know that one is required to rest on left buttock before going to sajda. The salafies do rest on left buttock AFTER sajda and BEFORE getting up in first and third rakat. BTW its quite an uncomfortable position.

[Afshi]

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Often people don't even know what madhab they follow (my ammi had no idea, and just did things the way her elders told her too).

Sometimes others who are from a hanafi family, for example, coudl have teachers from another madhab, lets say Shafi, who taught them how to pray Salah.

Again, which is why I state to review your salah regularily and ask questions to scholars you respect.

[NS2]

@Afshi

Often people don't even know what madhab they follow (my ammi had no idea, and just did things the way her elders told her too).

Exactly!

[Contrarian]

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Seriously, does it even matter if your butt is touching the ground first or your knee, that your nose is pressed against the prayer mat or your forehead? As long as you're punctual in your prayers, offer them with the required dedication, and more importantly considerate of people around you, I dont think Allah mian cares if the gap between your feet is sufficient.

[Monk]

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And all the dudes!!!

Please wear belts in your jeans when you go say EID prayer... What make you think we want to see your buttcrack first thing on eid day ??

[Iconoclast]

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@Monk

And all the dudes!!!

Please wear belts in your jeans when you go say EID prayer… What make you think we want to see your buttcrack first thing on eid day ??

http://www.paklinks.com/gs/all-views/217288-indecent-clothes-in-mosque.html

[Afshi]

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Actions are according to intentions.

If you are doing these things to please Allah SWT and want to perfect your prayer, that's great.

If you're doing certain things because you were told to and its the only way, then I don't know.

Allah knows best in both situations.

My thinking is that I would like to gain reward/blessing in everything that I do and can. And if I have to do a little something extra to make sure I am pleasing Allah, then I would do it. No harm in doing so, right? I have nothing to lose, but more to gain.

[canadiandesigirl]

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Whose to say which madhab is the correct? I personally follow what feels right after hearing different views from scholars I respect.

[Afshi]

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they are all correct in their own way

it is advised to stick to one madhab and following that. Instead of jumping from one madhab to another whenever you see fit. (this is a different topic all together).

Even the scholars who you respect would tell you the same thing.

[psyah]

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It is only possible to go straight into sujood if you pray the men's way. There is a very awkward way of doing for the women's way, but it would require you to curl up into a heap to achieve it.

There are a number of ways of praying that I know. I also know that Salafis make no distinction between men and women prayers. All the madhabs do strain that the right foot for the male should remain in place, with toes taking the weight, and the left foot is tucked underneath.

A woman's sides a bit further on to the left off her left foot and the right foot is further to the right. This is the method for the hanafi fiqh.

It is important to be precise with positions because we are standing before our Lord ... We wear our best clothes on dates, stand honourably before monarchs, rulers, and celebrities, but we can't even bother to be precise before our Lord? The precision also preserves the prayer. It is because of this precision that our Islamic teachings have remained in tact ...

[PyariCgudia]

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I'm not sure why we're talking about butt's in here. It's Ramada, people, calm it down.

[Reha]

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Okay I understand that, fair point, but you said you'd mind your own business and not correct someone in your own way which sounds like the right way (in privacy with goodwill etc) ... why not? Why should they mind?

I guess it depends on how one is trying to correct.

People mind when someone does it with no tact.

I had one aunty say something to me at the masjid once and it was mortifying (it wasn't even about namaz).

Correcting people is fine but keeping their feelings in mind will also guarantee the delivery of your message. If someone is embarrassed, chances are they're not really listening to you.