Copying Non-Muslims

[Submission_To_Peace]

A young Sahaabi [radhiallaahu anhu] was on his way on some errand when he passed by the Messenger of Allah [sallallaahu alayhi wasallam] who noticed a distinct difference in the dressing of this Sahabi [radhiallaahu anhu]. Rasulullah [sallallaahu alayhi wasallam] immediately reprimanded him: ‘Am I not a sufficient example for you?’

(Shamaail Tirmidhi Hadith120; Fathul Bari vol.10 pg.213 Hadith5791).

Every aspect of the life of Rasulullah [sallallaahu alayhi wasallam] has been accurately and minutely recorded in the books of Hadith. Rasulullah [sallallaahu alayhi wasallam] had on numerous occasions exhorted the Ummah to remain steadfast upon the Sunnah and not to become affected by the ways of the Kuffaar. It was always his concern that his Ummah should not follow the previous nations in their deviations. To this end, is his warning and caution, ‘He who imitates a nation is from amongst them.’

(Sunan Abi Dawud Hadith4027- Takhrijul Ihyaa Hadith851).

Sayyiduna Abdullah ibn Umar [radhiallaahu anhu] reports that Rasulullah [sallallaahu alayhi wasallam] said,

‘Distinguish yourselves from the Mushriks (polytheists) by lengthening your beards and trimming your moustaches.’

(Sahih Bukhari Hadith5892)

In Surah Hood, Allah Ta’ala states, ‘And do not incline towards the oppressors (disbelievers).’ Allamah Qurtubi [ra] has related the following interpretation of this Aayat, ‘Do not adore their ways and do not follow them.’ (Tafseer al-Qurtubi vol.9 pg.112).

[Submission_To_Peace]

Re: Importance of Beard in Islam

This year, the blessed month of Rabi-ul-Awwal almost coincides with the month of April. During this time, some will intensify their efforts to inculcate more Sunnats in their lives whilst others will be 'fooling' none but themselves as they prefer to imitate the ways of the Kuffaar. The Ulama have cautioned that whenever any Sunnah is abandoned, it is automatically replaced with an innovation. Sayyiduna Abdullah ibn Mas'ood t is reported to have warned the Ummah, 'If you abandon the way of your Prophet [sallallaahu alayhi wasallam], you would certainly deviate.' (Sahih Muslim Hadith1486).

In the light of the above, we can now understand why Rasulullah [sallallaahu alayhi wasallam] had expressed himself with the following, 'Hold on fast to my Sunnah (code of conduct) (Sunan Abi Dawud Hadith4599; Sunan al-Tirmidhi)

[Seminole]

Re: Copying Non-Muslims

Oops! You better log off your computer right away since the internet, computer, the software, the monitor, the modem and the language you are typing in are all innovations of the Kuffaar.

Also, I don't think it was sunnah to communicate to mass audiences like this where women and children are intermingling.

[Submission_To_Peace]

Re: Copying Non-Muslims

Dress and Appearance different from non-Muslims

1. Rasulullah [sallallaahu alayhi wasallam] said, 'He who adds to the numbers of a nation (by imitating them or joining their celebrations) is counted as one of them.' (Mukhtasar Itihaaful Maharah Hadith3944)

2. Sayyiduna Abdullah ibn Umar [radhiallaahu anhu] reports that Rasulullah [sallallaahu alayhi wasallam] said, 'Distinguish yourselves from the Mushriks (polytheists) by lengthening your beards and trimming your moustaches.' (Sahih Bukhari Hadith5892)

Acts of Worship different from non-Muslims

1. Sayyiduna Amr ibn al-Aas [radhiallaahu anhu] reports that Rasulullah [sallallaahu alayhi wasallam] said, 'The difference between our fast and that of the people of the book (Jews and Christians) is the partaking of Sehri, i.e. The Jews and Christians do not partake of Sehri.' (Sahih Muslim Hadith2545)
2. Sayyiduna Abdullah ibn Abbaas [radhiallaahu anhu] reports that Rasulullah [sallallaahu alayhi wasallam] said,** 'Observe the fast on the 10th of Muharram and differ with the Jews. Therefore, add to it another fast either a day before (9th) or a day after (11th).** (Musnad Ahmad Hadith2154 see Fathul Baari vol.4 pg.311 Hadith2000)

Social Conduct different from non-Muslims

1. Sayyiduna Anas [radhiallaahu anhu] states that it was the practise of the Jews that they would disassociate themselves totally from their wives who were in menstruation. They would not even eat together. Rasulullah [sallallaahu alayhi wasallam] ordered that the Muslims do not do the same. He r said, 'Do everything else besides intimate relations.' (Sahih Muslim Hadith692)

2. Rasulullah [sallallaahu alayhi wasallam] said, ‘Those who copy others are not from amongst us. Do not imitate the Jews or the Christians. For the Jews greet by pointing their fingers, and the Christians greet by beckoning with their palms.’ (Sunan al-Tirmidhi; Mirqaat vol.8 pg.470 Hadith4649; Ilmiyah). In the light of this Hadith, the Ulama have ruled that when one greets a person from a distance, one should use both his palms and fingers and also pronounce the Salaam. One should not merely indicate without saying the Salaam. (Ibid)

Funeral different from non-Muslims

1. Sayyiduna Imraan ibn Huseiyn [radhiallaahu anhu] had instructed his family that they should move quickly with his Janaazah [bier] and not delay/proceed slowly as the Jews and Christians do. (ibn Abi Shaybah vol.3 pg.166)

[Monk]

Re: Copying Non-Muslims

STP
1-A hdees says"you can wear what ever you want, avoiding 2 things. make sure you don't show off, and you don't overspent"

2-An other hadees says "acquire education even if you have to go to china "

[hareem01]

Re: Copying Non-Muslims

STP 1-A hdees says"you can wear what ever you want, ..."

Really? Never heard it. So what about covering the aurah?

[Monk]

Re: Copying Non-Muslims

Really? Never heard it. So what about covering the aurah?

oh oh
like you cover you self appropriately thats understood!!!!!!!!!!!!

I believe its about choice of style and color.

[hareem01]

Re: Copying Non-Muslims

oh oh like you cover you self appropriately thats understood!!!!!!!!!!!!

I believe its about choice of style and color.

I think its about different ahadith about different issues regarding dressing up.

[Seminole]

Re: Copying Non-Muslims

Dress and Appearance different from non-Muslims

1. Rasulullah [sallallaahu alayhi wasallam] said, 'He who adds to the numbers of a nation (by imitating them or joining their celebrations) is counted as one of them.' (Mukhtasar Itihaaful Maharah Hadith3944)

2. Sayyiduna Abdullah ibn Umar [radhiallaahu anhu] reports that Rasulullah [sallallaahu alayhi wasallam] said, 'Distinguish yourselves from the Mushriks (polytheists) by lengthening your beards and trimming your moustaches.' (Sahih Bukhari Hadith5892)

Acts of Worship different from non-Muslims

1. Sayyiduna Amr ibn al-Aas [radhiallaahu anhu] reports that Rasulullah [sallallaahu alayhi wasallam] said, 'The difference between our fast and that of the people of the book (Jews and Christians) is the partaking of Sehri, i.e. The Jews and Christians do not partake of Sehri.' (Sahih Muslim Hadith2545)
2. Sayyiduna Abdullah ibn Abbaas [radhiallaahu anhu] reports that Rasulullah [sallallaahu alayhi wasallam] said,** 'Observe the fast on the 10th of Muharram and differ with the Jews. Therefore, add to it another fast either a day before (9th) or a day after (11th).** (Musnad Ahmad Hadith2154 see Fathul Baari vol.4 pg.311 Hadith2000)

Social Conduct different from non-Muslims

1. Sayyiduna Anas [radhiallaahu anhu] states that it was the practise of the Jews that they would disassociate themselves totally from their wives who were in menstruation. They would not even eat together. Rasulullah [sallallaahu alayhi wasallam] ordered that the Muslims do not do the same. He r said, 'Do everything else besides intimate relations.' (Sahih Muslim Hadith692)

2. Rasulullah [sallallaahu alayhi wasallam] said, ‘Those who copy others are not from amongst us. Do not imitate the Jews or the Christians. For the Jews greet by pointing their fingers, and the Christians greet by beckoning with their palms.’ (Sunan al-Tirmidhi; Mirqaat vol.8 pg.470 Hadith4649; Ilmiyah). In the light of this Hadith, the Ulama have ruled that when one greets a person from a distance, one should use both his palms and fingers and also pronounce the Salaam. One should not merely indicate without saying the Salaam. (Ibid)

Funeral different from non-Muslims

1. Sayyiduna Imraan ibn Huseiyn [radhiallaahu anhu] had instructed his family that they should move quickly with his Janaazah [bier] and not delay/proceed slowly as the Jews and Christians do. (ibn Abi Shaybah vol.3 pg.166)

All of those were cultural or religious practices of that time. It is beyond reason to believe that there is going to be one way to dress or groom yourselves for all of eternity that is different from non-believers. Or even if there were that it has anything to do with spirituality or closeness and obedience to God. Imitating these non religious, irrelevant factors is worship at worst, idolization at best.

[chintu_bhopali]

Re: Copying Non-Muslims

^^ better not to dress at all:halo:

[Seminole]

Re: Copying Non-Muslims

^ You are saying there are 2 options? Dressing and grooming according to the culture of 1400 years ago or going naked?

How about dressing modestly, which* is* an extention of moral values. The length of your beard isn’t.

[Tariq_Akhtar]

Re: Copying Non-Muslims

You have To wonder. How some of these nuts make a living and raise kids.

[Monk]

Re: Copying Non-Muslims

^ by dressing appropriately.
people feeling strongly about some thing doesn't really make them nut case, does it?

[Mirch]

Re: Copying Non-Muslims

A young Sahaabi [radhiallaahu anhu] was on his way on some errand when he passed by the Messenger of Allah [sallallaahu alayhi wasallam] who noticed a distinct difference in the dressing of this Sahabi [radhiallaahu anhu]. Rasulullah [sallallaahu alayhi wasallam] immediately reprimanded him: 'Am I not a sufficient example for you?'

(Shamaail Tirmidhi Hadith120; Fathul Bari vol.10 pg.213 Hadith5791).

May be Sahabi was wearing something which the ulema of non believers wore in those days or he was wearing clothes which were not modest and did not cover him properly. Maybe he was wearing something similar to women dress of the time. Who knows ?

Every aspect of the life of Rasulullah [sallallaahu alayhi wasallam] has been accurately and minutely recorded in the books of Hadith. Rasulullah [sallallaahu alayhi wasallam] had on numerous occasions exhorted the Ummah to remain steadfast upon the Sunnah and not to become affected by the ways of the Kuffaar. It was always his concern that his Ummah should not follow the previous nations in their deviations. To this end, is his warning and caution, ‘He who imitates a nation is from amongst them.'

(Sunan Abi Dawud Hadith4027- Takhrijul Ihyaa Hadith851).

Why does it apply to dress only. It can apply to their religious practices or some cultural practices which were against the Muslim religious beliefs.

Sayyiduna Abdullah ibn Umar [radhiallaahu anhu] reports that Rasulullah [sallallaahu alayhi wasallam] said,

'Distinguish yourselves from the Mushriks (polytheists) by lengthening your beards and trimming your moustaches.'

(Sahih Bukhari Hadith5892).

This hadees contradicts the following hadees in which it is said that women who pluck their eyebrow are making changes to Creation of Allah. Then how Trimming the mustache is not considered making changes to creation of Allah. This contradiction invalidates both the ahadees.
The Hadith narrated by ?Abdullah ibn Mas?ood (may Allah be pleased with him) says that:"
I heard Rasulullah Sallallahu Alaihi Wassalam say:
?Allah has cursed the woman who does tattoos and the one who has them done, the woman who plucks eyebrows and the one who has it done, and the one who files her teeth for the purpose of beauty, altering the creation of Allah.?
(Narrated by al-Bukhaari, Muslim Vol 2)

In Surah Hood, Allah Ta'ala states, 'And do not incline towards the oppressors (disbelievers).' Allamah Qurtubi [ra] has related the following interpretation of this Aayat, 'Do not adore their ways and do not follow them.' (Tafseer al-Qurtubi vol.9 pg.112).

In Surah Hood, Allah Ta'ala states, 'And do not incline towards the oppressors (disbelievers).' Allamah Qurtubi [ra] has related the following interpretation of this Aayat, 'Do not adore their ways and do not follow them.' (Tafseer al-Qurtubi vol.9 pg.112).

Only by using twisted logic you can apply these verses to the dress code of non believers or any other practices of non believers which are not against the Islamic beliefs. They used to and still Bar B Q whole animal , should we not. They used and still hunt animals, should we not. They used to drink non alcoholic beverages and still do, should we not. They use computers should we not ?
People use your own grey matter , just do not be lakeer kay faqeer. Specially those who want to enlighten, guide and lead others have extra burden of using their grey matter and research the topic. Just copying and pasting in this day and age should be avoided.

[Mirch]

Re: Copying Non-Muslims

Dress and Appearance different from non-Muslims

1. Rasulullah [sallallaahu alayhi wasallam] said, 'He who adds to the numbers of a nation (by imitating them or joining their celebrations) is counted as one of them.' (Mukhtasar Itihaaful Maharah Hadith3944)

2. Sayyiduna Abdullah ibn Umar [radhiallaahu anhu] reports that Rasulullah [sallallaahu alayhi wasallam] said, 'Distinguish yourselves from the Mushriks (polytheists) by lengthening your beards and trimming your moustaches.' (Sahih Bukhari Hadith5892)

See my post above.

Acts of Worship different from non-Muslims

1. Sayyiduna Amr ibn al-Aas [radhiallaahu anhu] reports that Rasulullah [sallallaahu alayhi wasallam] said, 'The difference between our fast and that of the people of the book (Jews and Christians) is the partaking of Sehri, i.e. The Jews and Christians do not partake of Sehri.' (Sahih Muslim Hadith2545)
2. Sayyiduna Abdullah ibn Abbaas [radhiallaahu anhu] reports that Rasulullah [sallallaahu alayhi wasallam] said, 'Observe the fast on the 10th of Muharram and differ with the Jews. Therefore, add to it another fast either a day before (9th) or a day after (11th). (Musnad Ahmad Hadith2154 see Fathul Baari vol.4 pg.311 Hadith2000)

I relate to that and have no problem as they are religious practices.

Social Conduct different from non-Muslims

1. Sayyiduna Anas [radhiallaahu anhu] states that it was the practise of the Jews that they would disassociate themselves totally from their wives who were in menstruation. They would not even eat together. Rasulullah [sallallaahu alayhi wasallam] ordered that the Muslims do not do the same. He r said, 'Do everything else besides intimate relations.' (Sahih Muslim Hadith692)

2. Rasulullah [sallallaahu alayhi wasallam] said, ‘Those who copy others are not from amongst us. Do not imitate the Jews or the Christians. For the Jews greet by pointing their fingers, and the Christians greet by beckoning with their palms.’ (Sunan al-Tirmidhi; Mirqaat vol.8 pg.470 Hadith4649; Ilmiyah). In the light of this Hadith, the Ulama have ruled that when one greets a person from a distance, one should use both his palms and fingers and also pronounce the Salaam. One should not merely indicate without saying the Salaam. (Ibid)

No problem distinguishing yourself from non Muslims on these practices.

Funeral different from non-Muslims

1. Sayyiduna Imraan ibn Huseiyn [radhiallaahu anhu] had instructed his family that they should move quickly with his Janaazah [bier] and not delay/proceed slowly as the Jews and Christians do. (ibn Abi Shaybah vol.3 pg.166)

Although it is not a hadees but following these Muslim practices make lot of sense.

[Dr.LuLworth]

Re: Copying Non-Muslims

It was always his concern that his Ummah should not follow the previous nations in their deviations. To this end, is his warning and caution, ‘He who imitates a nation is from amongst them.'

(Sunan Abi Dawud Hadith4027- Takhrijul Ihyaa Hadith851).

umm, the clothes the prophet wore (white long arab skirt thing) was worn by idol worshipping arabs before him. They had been wearing that for a thousand years before he came.

[Mirch]

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umm, the clothes the prophet wore (white long arab skirt thing) was worn by idol worshipping arabs before him. They had been wearing that for a thousand years before he came.

Good observation. :biggthumb

[StirCrasy]

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umm, the clothes the prophet wore (white long arab skirt thing) was worn by idol worshipping arabs before him. They had been wearing that for a thousand years before he came.

Indians still wear that!

[Crescent]

Re: Copying Non-Muslims

JazakAllah for posting. :k:

Ignore the idiots on this forum.

[burqaposhx]

Re: Copying Non-Muslims

Here is a thing!

What if Muslims of middle ages quit imitating the Messenger pbuh?
While non-Muslims picked up on His good habits.
Then it will be OK to "copy" the good habits of Non-Muslims these days.

There are several examples to support this.

Our Messenger pbuh used to speak truth (Many non-Muslim countries these days are more truthful compared to the Muslim majority countries).

Our Messenger pbuh was honest and trustworthy to his fellow human beings (kuffar and Muslims alike). These days you can trust many more non-Muslim organizations with your money, compared to the Muslim organizations.

Our Messenger pbuh was tolerant even to His enemies. Remember the story of the woman who used to throw garbage on him almost every days? Or the man who brought the innards of slaughtered animal and dumped them on the Messenger pbuh?

And how did our Messenger react to these violent acts? Kill his enemies? torture them? Burn their flags? No- Nada- Our Messenger pbuh turned his other cheek.

And what about cleanliness of cities and towns of non-Muslims? Heck we should copy them, as that was one of the top Sunnahs of our Messenger pbuh.

So yes we can spread hate, and intolerance by quoting some ahadis without proper context. Because it takes a big heart to accept ones own faults and correct his ways.