Do converts to islam know more about the religion than ordinary muslims because they learn the religion thoroughly before converting what do you guys think about it?
Re: Converts
Methinks yes.
Born muslims take their religion for granted.
Re: Converts
I guess it would be different for different people. Some people convert because one particular thing about Islam touched them so deeply while some convert because they felt it was logically a good religion to be a part of.
Re: Converts
I think generally it holds true......i have LOTs and LOTs of respect for the converts......or even the reverts..
Re: Converts
mostly yes.
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yes
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Hell my ancestors were converts so yeah why not… I bet the founders of my bloodline were much better Muslims in thier life than I will ever be becuase they had to struggle for thier faith while we just get free lectures and all… 
Re: Converts
NOT, if he is converting to marry a muslim girls judt to shut up girl's parents...for name sake ONLY!
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Khalil bhai you have a point.
But on the whole I think converts and reverts tend to be more, whats the word… dedicated/commited?
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lol…yep, i agree…they ahve to know more about islam to make that biggest decision of their lives. we, born as muslims, take islam for granted…ghar kii murGhii daal baraabar:
isii baat par ya’nii isii kahaavat par Rafi kaa yeh gaanaa suneN maze kaa hai:
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Re: Converts
Thanks for that 
Your very wise with words… 
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u ko gaanaa pasand aayaa mere paise vasool…and, thank you for ur appreciation. vaise, bas zabaanii jam’a Kharch hii koi mujh se karvaa le…laffaazii hii aatii hai bas lolzzz…'allaamah Iqbaal ne kahaa thaa k:
guftaar kaa Ghaazi to banaa kirdaar kaa Ghaazii ban na sakaa**
Re: Converts
Methinks yes.
Born muslims take their religion for granted.
NOT, if he is converting to marry a muslim girls judt to shut up girl's parents...for name sake ONLY!
What they said.
Re: Converts
NOT, if he is converting to marry a muslim girls judt to shut up girl's parents...for name sake ONLY!
Obviously, not in that case...but generally, i think, yes they are more knowledgeable. All the reverts i have come across are extremely knowledgeable in Islam....more so than those who are born into the religion.
Re: Converts
Obviously, not in that case...but generally, i think, yes they are more knowledgeable. All the reverts i have come across are extremely knowledgeable in Islam....more so than those who are born into the religion.
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of course, he/she has to study religion to to be convinced that its the right religion as opposed to someone who has been born in a muslim family.**
Re: Converts
yes, born muslims have yet to accept islam consciously.
ya phir, hum ISLAM to ley aye hein per EMAAN lana abhi baki hei.
Re: Converts
yes, born muslims have yet to accept islam consciously.
ya phir, hum ISLAM to ley aye hein per EMAAN lana abhi baki hei.
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ek dafa kah diyaa kalima to muslim ho gaye. u do NOT have to refresh or renew kalima. u may say that a born muslim has yeh to become a momin and/or a muttaqi. once a muslim always a muslim unless one renounces islam.**
Re: Converts
** ek dafa kah diyaa kalima to muslim ho gaye. u do NOT have to refresh or renew kalima. u may say that a born muslim has yeh to become a momin and/or a muttaqi. once a muslim always a muslim unless one renounces islam.**
you know man, what i meant by my statement..
definitely the who has said the KALIMA with attestation of Heart is a muslim...
but the "Tajdeed e emaan" is also essential....this is why we have the concept of "Tazkeeiya e nafs" ....
kheir...mei kisi bhi kalima perhney waley ko non-muslim hergiz nahi keh raha..
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you know man, what i meant by my statement.. definitely the who has said the KALIMA with attestation of Heart is a muslim... but the "Tajdeed e emaan" is also essential....this is why we have the concept of "Tazkeeiya e nafs" ....
kheir...mei kisi bhi kalima perhney waley ko non-muslim hergiz nahi keh raha..
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i don't think so. tajdeed e iimaan is good to have it but its NOT required in islam. one must strive to become more muttaqii, more parhezgaar and a better momin.
of course not. kisi kalma go ko Ghair muslim kahna Khud ek gunaha e kabeera hai. Khair, aaiye du'aa kareN k Allah ham sab ko nek hidaayat de aur siraat ul mustaqeem par chalne kii taufeeq 'ataa farmaaye. aameen.**
Re: Converts
** i don't think so. tajdeed e iimaan is good to have it but its NOT required in islam. one must strive to become more muttaqii, more parhezgaar and a better momin.
of course not. kisi kalma go ko Ghair muslim kahna Khud ek gunaha e kabeera hai. Khair, aaiye du'aa kareN k Allah ham sab ko nek hidaayat de aur siraat ul mustaqeem par chalne kii taufeeq 'ataa farmaaye. aameen.**
bro i am saying essential not required...these are the results (Muttaqi,Perhazgar & better momin)..tazkeeiya e nafs & tajeed e emaan are the essence for reaching to these results.. =)
Very true, Ameen Sum Ameen