Converting the sects

So my question is , if it is possible to convert from one sect to another ? Means like from Shia to Suni , Suni to Shia , Bralawi to DiyoBandi , DiyoBandi to Bralawi and so on .

and what will be the requirements of it ? Will it be something like converting from one religion to another ? Will they have to recite Kalmah or something ?

PS: Please don’t mess up my thread . I ain’t that sweet as I look :@:

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I can vouch for that :chai:

Shia and Sunni are both Muslims and therefore from a purely religious point of view there is absolutely no problem for them to be married. The answer, however, might be totally different when it comes to cultural or relationship point of view.

For many it is difficult enough to accept that their spouse has different opinion, let alone having a fundamentally different understanding of religion. Problems may arise when it comes to religious ceremonies and practices, relationships with members of the different religious community, raising kids, etc…

The other difficulty is that not only do the two persons need to be open-minded and be tolerant enough to accept their differences, they also need to be brave and strong against possible reactions from the members of the two communities who may have extreme sectarian feelings and beliefs. Your parent’s belief that the marriage is void is only an example.



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1 . It wasn’t totally from a marriage point of view

2 . I asked the way to convert

But thanks for some real good insight and I pretty much agree with you on this :k:

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disagree in religious terms .. there is a huge gap .. maybe not in action i.e. fiqh but there is in aqeeda believe it or not.

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Yaar maray question ka bhee koi jawab da du :naraz:

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Shia to Suni , Suni to Shia , Bralawi to DiyoBandi , DiyoBandi to Bralawi
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Kalma remain the same for sunni bralawi n diyobandiii ... i didnt knw much abt shia side.
from Sunni to shia ... i guess if u r in love with som1 in tht part then u can ignore n can consider tht sunni n shia r the same ... but if u r real practical muslim with strong aaqidsss then u will find n observe hell lot of difference , its upto u how u see n measure. at the end every1 is muslim

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To say that you belong to a sect is haram! And a direct violation of Quran. Follow Prophet Muhammad (SAW), accept what he said and did in his life and reject that which he did not.

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Guys I am engineering a converter , which will take a person with any sect as an input , and output will be a muslim . Please help me out here .

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^ As FBI said, difference is in Aqeeda. You have to be ready to beleive in certain things and make them part of your aqeeda when you convert from one sect to the other. From the surface, those differences in aqeeda dont look big enough but they have deep implications and can change once eeman in a big way

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I don't believe in sects .. all i believe is being a MUSLIM and following the FARAIZ which are required to be followed by a muslim. In todays world, we are so away from true islam that I believe it will take our lives even to full fill islamic basic requirements i.e. farz. sects are way after that. So i advise, stick to your faraiz .. toheed, namaz, roza, hajj, zakkat and you are good to go :)

P.S:
I applied for ISSB and in sect section i wrote "Muslim" and they rejected my form .. :p

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T1000, doing 5 faraiz dont make you a muslim, eeman and aqeeda make you a muslim. If a non-muslim starts praying and fasting with you, will he be called a muslim?

Sects are the battle of Aqaa'ed, not Faraa'ez.

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your aqaid starts from "Iman-e-mafasal" and "iman-e-majamal" .. ..

There are priorities of aqaid .. Aqeeda on Allah, Taqdeer, Malaika, All prophets etc are way more important than .. aqaid on doing rafa-tain in salah, timing of prayer, should we do "khatam" or not, should we do "eid milad-un-nabi" or not ..

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Way to stay on topic bro =)

I can't stand when people talk like this and then talk about unity! <<< Ummm, does that remind of you a certain post of yours?

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You are over simplifying the differences These are are hardly the differences that you mentioned.

to me real unity is the unity in spite of differences, Agree to disagree kind of thing.

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Yeah, I'm with you there. Mutual respect and tolerance.

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I believe that the first step is to be a muslim and the next step is to be a momin :) ..

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From diyobandi to brelvi, brelvi to diyobandi, shia to sunni, nothing is required, you just start beleiving in respective sect's point of you. From sunni to shia, i think you have to say that you beleive in Imamat of 12 Imams (not sure though).

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^ There's the Aliyyun Waliullah added.

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I cannot gurantee that the rest of the gupshup will let me put my thought over here [without blood shedding], as obviously majority dont believe I’m a Muslim and belong to an Islamic sect. - maan NaMaan, mai tera mehmaan.

Anyhow my two cents about the topic. All sects of Islam variably differ from each other. Although none I believe have any particular requirement and restrictions for conversion. As someone mention above that there are some “aaqaid” that dont look too big from far, but when it comes to practice it may take you towards a different direction and on occasions to the highest degree of crime i.e shirk. Calling Hadhrat Ali, for help [contrary to what Quran says - eeya-kanabudu wa eeyakanastaeen], is one good example of shirk. Similarly there are other things that contradicts to basic beliefs of Islam – somehow everything is justified, thus devoid refinement.

As long as the basic belief in the code “aamano bil’lahi, wa mala-ekatay’hi, wa kotobay’hi, was rosolo’hi” is in place, the rest will be guided perfectly by the Divine power.

My message for everyone here is; it does not matter what you follow, but it does matter how you follow. Cause if you follow it right, all paths lead to one God and He will certainly help you guide to sirat-e-mustaqeem.

Anyhow, the Imam Mahdi of the time [Ghulam-e- Ahmad as]](Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad), did implemented TEN contract terms [Text]]( Conditions of Initiation (Bai’at)) and YouTube -10th Condition-]](http://www.youtube.com/user/mtaOnline1#p/search/0/BSNiEcnGa2k )

May Allah be with you.
Jazakallh

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not really, aliyyn un wali Allah is a later development the fundamental difference between twelver imami muslims and others is the belief in imamate of 12 continous imams from lineage of Hussain b Ali and their infallibility