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Originally posted by Aishaaa1: *
i just have the ability to question my religion, knowing that my faith will remain as it is. The west has done nothing but EXPAND my mind, im not as close minded as the rest of u. The whole world uses this against us, explain it to them.
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*sigh same thing happened to me...too many questions...too many different answers..iv just learnt to accept it as it is...not to ask too many questions regarding religion...maybe thts a bad thing,but 4 me...the more questions i ask,the more harder it becomes 4 me.
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Originally posted by punjabi kuri !!!: *
*sigh same thing happened to me...too many questions...too many different answers..iv just learnt to accept it as it is...not to ask too many questions regarding religion...maybe thts a bad thing,but 4 me...the more questions i ask,the more harder it becomes 4 me.
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Really? The more questions I asked, the harder I looked for the answers - the more I came to appreciate Islam and the more grateful I felt to be born and raised a Muslim.
My iman was weakest before I started asking questions - but asking questions leads to greater knowledge, and greater knowledge of Islam has led to stronger iman.
THe problem with your jihad is that i means different things to different people. Siht...I am oppressed by he heat...I don;t blow up my refrigerator. nome sayn!!
i know what jihaad is, jihaad of the soul, of the mind, a struggle WITHIN urself. But im talking about bloodshed. Forgiveness is a known attribute of a Muslim, but then the concept of "eye for an eye". If a non Muslim were asking u, how would u explain it to them?
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*Originally posted by PakistaniAbroad: *
Pls. ignore comments by punjabi_kuri and many like her who themself have been deluded into thinking that jihad means fighting.. not their fault..they grew up as 'orthodox Muslims'.
Jihad 'struggle' is different from Qital 'fighting/killing' .
Fighting in the way of Allah is prescribed to counter oppression. It's retaliatory and commanded in proportion to the amount of aggression faced.
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ahaan...and where did i say the opposite?i also believe the meaning to be along those lines...how on earth did u get the opposite meaning from the line i wrote???care to explain?
The meaning of jihaad is “striving” or “struggle”. It is used in Islaam to refer to a variety of different efforts enjoined upon the believers. Striving to keep God and His Messenger more important than loved ones, wealth and one’s own self is the most basic form of jihaad prescribed on every Muslim. The Prophet said, “No one has truly believed until Allaah and His Messenger becomes more beloved than everything.” Doing the righteous deeds prescribed by God is itself a jihaad. The Prophet was reported to have said, “The best jihaad is the perfect Hajj.” On another occasion, someone asked the Prophet if he should join the jihaad. The Prophet responded by asking him whether his parents were still alive and when he replied that they were, he said, “Make jihaad by serving them.”
Defending Islaam and the Muslim community is a primary aspect of the physical jihaad which involves taking up arms against an enemy. God states in the Quraan “Permission to fight has been given to those who have been attacked because they are wronged. And indeed, Allaah is Most Powerful.” (22:39) “Fight in the cause of Allaah against those who fight against you, but do not transgress the limits. Indeed Allaah does not love transgressors.” (2:190). Muslims are also enjoined to fight against tyranny. The Qur’aan states, “Why shouldn’t you fight in the cause of Allaah and for those oppressed because they are weak. Men, women and children who cry out, ‘Our Lord! Rescue us from this town of oppressors’” (4:75)
wht i meant by my reply was tht if she simply goes n does some research herself she'l find out about jihaad n when its fard n y its fard etc.
oh and i have no problem at all being an*orthodox muslim*.
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*Originally posted by mAd_ScIeNtIsT: *
Really? The more questions I asked, the harder I looked for the answers - the more I came to appreciate Islam and the more grateful I felt to be born and raised a Muslim.
My iman was weakest before I started asking questions - but asking questions leads to greater knowledge, and greater knowledge of Islam has led to stronger iman.
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seriously maddy,u know wht,4 me religion is sooo difficult,the thing is i used to question alot,sometimes i got the answers,sometimes i didnt...& sometimes so many different answers came up they confused me...and i'll admit sometimes...the answers scared me...the deeper i looked into it all the more i knew tht i was living the opposite of wht the life of a muslim shud be like,n i'l admit,after tht,i kind of stopped it all...it was just making life more difficult.(ok i know this is immature but thts the way it is)
once again.. do not confuse Jihad with Qital.
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Defending Islaam and the Muslim community is a primary aspect of the physical jihaad
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Physical Jihaad??? who coined this term.. look closely at the verses you quoted, do they even contain the Arabic word Jihad?? All they talk about is Qital.. so fighting in Allah's way is really Qital and Jihad is about stiving in the cause of Allah and in all it's instances in the Qur'an, does not deal with fighting or warfare.
and, of course not EVERY question CAN be answered..that is where Allah tests your faith. Can u believe without seeing? But then there are those questions that can and NEED to be answered.
ok pakistani abroad mate,if thts wht u believe in,fine.i believe in wht i quoted in my reply earlier.
c wht i mean...theres different answers to a single question.
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*Originally posted by malibu man: *
Muslims in the east dont say stuff like what aishaa just said. Its because western culture and values( adultery, fornication etc) are influencing people like aishaa.
People in the east are no angels but they know their limits when it comes to saying stuff about islam. They are not blasphemous as americanised ppl like aishaa.
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yep muslims in the east just kill other muslioms in the east.
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*Originally posted by Aishaaa1: *
im not as close minded as the rest of u.
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nice :) maybe the west needs to expand your horizons just a teeny bit more
The biggest contradiction in Quran is that it is followed by (among good and God fearing people) a whole lot of ignorant hatemongers, who use it simply to abuse it. Allah should have written in big bold Italics on front cover "not to be used for promoting hatred and disturbing peace".
What about equality for all and then imposing a tax on other religions in a khilafah. What is that...if not a contradiction? What about no compulsion in religion and tolerance but destruction of idols, which some people use as a conduit to god. What is that?
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*Originally posted by punjabi kuri !!!: *
c wht i mean...theres different answers to a single question.
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PK where do you find the answers from? from some scholar? Isn't it more appropriate to look up in the Quran yourself instead of getting answers from scholars? Even if you choose to do that shouldn't you make sure the information is correct by looking up things yourself? There is one single answer to every question and if you're getting more than one answer then guess what, you still don't know the answer...
ok..no..dont do that. Dont be sarcastic. I realize im not a good Muslim, but i wont sit back and follow everyone and everything, i need to know why im doing it..so i ask. Maybe the West HAS corrupted me, maybe im just supposed to sit back, nod my head, and agree with every other Muslim, but Islam gives enough leeway in this matter. I AM allowed to ask, and i WILL ask.
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Matsui- the Quran doesn't teach its followers to destroy temples, or statues. You know this
oh but there IS no equality. You are born in power if you are born a man
Matsui, as you know that I am not a Quranic scholar, but I know this much. All divine books only reflect the wisdom of people at the time they were revealed. It was meant as a guidebook, and not something to be taken verbatim, it is a collection of biblical stories, and lessons to be drawn. Imagine using a Windows3.1 manual to learn Windows2003. Besides, you are confusing a lot of Shariah with what the Quran says. Shariah was a political movement within Islam that grew out of dissent, rightly or wrongly, it proves that there is a lesson to adjust accordingly. I consider myself as much a Muslim as yourself. Allah never meant for her creations to use labels.
Mr. Matsui,
A lot of times you mentioned a tax on non-muslims in a khilafah or in an Islamic government. I wonder why you never mentioned Zakat which is also compulsary on the muslim of the very same khilafah and they have to pay it to the government.
NYA, I agree with you. Koran is a good read and the spirituaql message is very good. Once you start trying to figure out the earth's circumference from the verses, that is where you go wrong. That will go for any religious book in the world.
Fat Ahmad: I would be willing to pay a tax like everyone else. Not a special tax that singles me out. do you get the point, yet? I think Muslims should pay the zakat and the Jizya.
What are the other contradictions, according to you?
I agree, one must question. It's really not even a choice, its compulsary. Because throughout the Qur'an you are questioned, and asked to ponder.