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queer you really need to re-examine facts. Its common knowledge that the poor in India are poorer than the poor in Pakistan.
ab-e-hayat I don’t have any grudge. Its the truth. I don’t date and no I was not spurned by any Indian guy for a date 
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Queerrrrrrrrrayyyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ab Maar Khao Gay Mujh Se!!!!!!!!!!!!
I Did Not Just Land In There One Day And Read A Random Post. I Was A Regular There. I Knew The Regulars On That Board Just Like I Know The Regulars Here!!!!!!!!! Is It Hard To Make Out For You??????????????????????
You Are An Idiot, That's It!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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TNWB choro yaar, you know how Indians are.
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i typed all in bold!!!!!!!!! i want it to sppear all in bold. why the hell is it small???????????????????
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TNWB Posts “irem, half of indian economy is prosperous cz of all their crap movies that our people buy and love to watch with friend”
Thank god most pakistanis are not as ignorant as this cat. 
Pakistan needs India more than India needs Pakistan. No chinese is going to invest in your software/ITES businesses like Indians will…No American will invest in your leather goods industry like Indians will and no europeans will invest in your mining and heavy industrials like India will. So be thankful. 
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Yaar there is some auto function TNWB. When you type a post entirely in Caps (you mean caps not bold I think?) then it reformats it.
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oh god just when i think i have heard it all, out comes one more gem. 
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Matty, quit bitching about India and Pakistan. What does that has to do with US? We dont care, what those backward south asians do? As long as they provide us cheap labor and even cheaper outsourcing… we can care less who they trade with…
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Irem, let me answer the three points which Pakistanis like to beat Indians with. Kashmir, Babri Masjid and recently added the Gujarat riots. When there is an armed insurgency going on, there is going to be a loss of life on both sides. And with the continuing flow of cash, arms, and manpower the insurgency has lasted this long, resulting in continuing mayhem. Kashmiris have special rights which no Indian has. The Indian government has also pumped in billions to keep it economy floating, which if invested in a state with the same population would been the model state of the country. Secondly, the unused mosque called Babri Masjid was broken down due to some 100 year long ongoing conflict. This should have never happened and the matter should have been settled amicably by talks which they are trying to do now, but when that happened more than 100 temples were destroyed in Pakistan. Why did that not cause an uproar in Pakistan, because in the Pakistan subconcsious Hindus dont exist in Pakistan. Thirdly Gujarat riots happened because of the burning of 70 hindus, it just did not happen out of the blue.
You speak of Indian state machinery being cruel to the minorities, you actually are totally unaware of the ground situation. A population as big as the total population of Pakistan can hardly be called a minority and it is not at all weak. But while worried about the Muslim minority population of India, did you stop to think what happened to the Hindu minority of Pakistan which was 14% in '72 and is now less than 1%. While you may be consumed all the time of thinking that you may be wronged by others, did you stop and think that maybe you may have wronged others. I am sorry for the tirade, but I believe your way of thinking is like George Bush, its all black and white, no grey, we are the good guys and they are the bad guys.
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See Kaleem you are not thinking with your cap on my loving brother. I am thinking a Matsui and Kaleem brand women's underwear on every desi fat ass. With the two countries on good terms...we can be kings...kings I tell ya. I alredy posted a b-plan in ECO. Numbers make sense....
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desis and undies? good luck with that one.
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Queer, think about Bipasha Basu, Ash, Reema and another Paki chick, dressed as VS angles on billboards from Lukhnow to Lahore....who's the bitch ..now!!!
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astaghfirullah brotha! didnt you read what ravage and Irem wrote about pak’s local industries? 
vaat vill heppen to Sultan brand and the Rangeela spring collection?
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Well Sultan will be bought out by Vimal and Rangeela we'll keep in the harem.
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TNWB - you must be a closet Indian wannabe - nothing else can explain your behavior.
Irem - so this wannabe tells you US is dumping old medicine in India and that's why it is so cheap and you lap it up? you said you studied in the US - do you really think this is possible? (I will keep my mind open till you answer)
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Good *ing god. You deserve a darwin award. Since when are we starting an FTA (Free Trade agreement) with India? Who the * announced that? We can't decide on what the agenda should be at Hong Kong and people on GS are annoucing free trade in South Asia.
Look Irem being naive is one thing but being stupid is another. We are not going to have Free Trade with India for another 100 or 200 years. We are still on a damn positive list. First we get to a negative list. Then normal trade relations which includes MFN. Then we follow up with SAPTA and then maybe SAFTA. Of course moving from a positive list to a negative list would require atleast a good 50 years.
Stupidity is not a reason to post.
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CM stupidity is not a reason to post and that's exactly why YOU shouldn't be posting, and that too in my thread.
Please update your knowledge and then reply. Which planet are you living in? Venus?
Pakistan and India are going to start doing free trade. Everybody here in Pakistan is talking about it. Please venture out of your cave in Venus and get acquainted with the outside world. Visit planet earth sometime.
Atlantis wy isn't it possible? Yes indeed it is. Anything is possible.
Surya
"When there is an armed insurgency going on, there is going to be a loss of life on both sides. And with the continuing flow of cash, arms, and manpower the insurgency has lasted this long, resulting in continuing mayhem. Kashmiris have special rights which no Indian has. The Indian government has also pumped in billions to keep it economy floating, which if invested in a state with the same population would been the model state of the country."
There is no armed insurgency. There is a freedom stuggle. There was a ratio of 3:1 army: civilian in Kashmir at one point. There were and are massive human rights abuses. Continuing flow of cash and manpower? Pakistan was ready for observers on the LOC. I don't think that the Indian government is so helpless that some Pakistani "terrorists" can hijack a whole Indian province. Its a freedom struggle by the people of Kashmir. Why doesn't India want to hold an impartial plebiscite in Kashmir according to UN resolutions?
"Secondly, the unused mosque called Babri Masjid was broken down due to some 100 year long ongoing conflict. This should have never happened and the matter should have been settled amicably by talks which they are trying to do now, but when that happened more than 100 temples were destroyed in Pakistan. Why did that not cause an uproar in Pakistan, because in the Pakistan subconcsious Hindus dont exist in Pakistan."
More than 100 temples were destroyed? Hmmm. Is that true? I'm not denying that there are ignoral people in Pakistan but our GOVERNMENT or STATE has NEVER EVER sponsored terrorism against minorities like the Indian government has. This is because our religion forbids cruelty to minorities and safeguards minority rights, and our constitution does the same.
When the Babri masjid was dishonored or when the Gujrat riots took place, the Indian government was ASSISTING the killers.
"Thirdly Gujarat riots happened because of the burning of 70 hindus, it just did not happen out of the blue. "
That's one version of it :) And even then if that was true, that's no justification to burn down entire Muslim villages. Just the culprits of the first incident could have been punished. The government turned that spark into a fire and abetted the killing of Muslims throughout the state.
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Update my knowledge? I worked at the WTO for a full year. I was part of the Pakistan Mission. There is no FTA. There is no free trade. But i wish to be enlightened.
If there is going to be Free trade show me where they are signing the agreement. Show me where they said that Pakistan and India will give each other MFN status. If there is Free Trade what about GATS? What about commodity pricing and standards? Have we agreed on dispute settlement mechanism? What are our Market Access bindings? Are we at zero tarrifs or we using a swiss forumla, UR formula or a binded formula for the tariff reductions? For the tarrif reductions are we using the WTO bound rates or the domestically applied rates? How does this affect our PTA with Sri Lanka? Is this bilateral agreement allowed under SAPTA?
Answer these questions or point me to where someone has discussed them and then i will start with the harder ones.
Dumbass organizations like Sungi and SDPI make my life miserable when they spout this stuff. I doubt it it is them really. It must be those Third World Network nutters International Consumer group or something. Tariq Banuri must be pretty damn upset with such information being spread around.
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Don't drag me into technicalities coz I'm not an economist and don't understand what you wrote above.
All I know, and that is coz most people here are talking about it, India and Pakistan will start doing free trade, maybe with some restrictions.
You can already see ads of Indian products on Pakistani TV channels.
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Advertisements are one thing and actually doing it is another. You know that our PTA with Sri Lanka took 4 years to complete and we are just on a negative list now. Not even a FTA. With India how long do you think it would take?
Irem that is an oxymoron. You can't have free trade with restrictions. There is no free trade. Show me a link from the Dawn or the News stating so. They are the only news sources of repute in pakistan. Show me one link that quotes an Indian or Pakistani Govt Official saying so.
Our people are not that dumb, well considering how I have been hearing this news since i was in Pakistan in March last year i am not so sure anymore. To be precise our Foriegn Ministry is not that stupid. So even if everybody else messes up they won't.