Congratulation All PTI supporters ! Big day , Great Collation

Re: Congratulation All PTI supporters ! Big day , Great Collation

Unfortunately, your question is based on assumptions and lots or them. :wink:

I am not ‘chahnay walay’ of anyone but certainly I believe on fair play. I do not trust Pakistani police, Pakistani media, Pakistani court verdicts, government departments, or politicians, especially political leaderships of PMLN and PPP … and only believe on claims or something when I can verify them from independence sources, are logical, and there are no reasons not to believe.

I know that Pakistani government, especially demon-crazy governments of Nawaz, can make anyone demon using propaganda and paid media. Nawaz government has shown that recently in obvious way when they tried to portray that TUQ men are terrorists, and that TUQ son was present in the building, and has used fire arms at police, so on … not realising that TUQ son was not even in Pakistan at the time … anyhow, PMLN propaganda did not stick because media camera was present all over the place, recording the event.

Here is news … about TUQ son, and propaganda of PMLN team plus PMLN thugs in police uniform:

I believe that other than being liar and corrupt, one of PMLN speciality is propaganda. Knowing PMLN and their Political team members are blatant liars, shameless, dishonest, corrupt and characterless fraud, I do not accept anything that comes from them unless I can verify what they claim from independent sources, as to me, even Iblees (Shaitan) can be more honourable and honest then PMLN and their team.

So, knowing PMLN and PPP propaganda machine, that can buy media, and can influence all government departments of Pakistan (using pressure or bribe), I have reservation that AH is murderer as him being murderer is entirely based on Pakistani (bikao maal) sources, claims of Pakistani dishonest politicians, and people influenced by these Politicians, Pakistani media, and words of mouth.

[That does not mean, AH is certainly not involved in any sort of murder, as he could be, but I have no evidence barring Pakistani propaganda and Pakistani sources, that he is murderer… and that is what I wrote … that AH being murderer is propaganda].

As for Bhatta in Karachi … again all such news to me is based on Pakistani media, propaganda of political corrupts, untrustworthy corrupt Pakistani government departments, and words of mouth.

On the other hand, I also have many relatives and friends living in Karachi, most likely much more than you have (as 95 percent of my relatives and friends who live in Pakistan, live in Karachi). My relatives and friends also have different political affiliations. Many who I know support JI, many MQM, many PPP, and many PTI. I never came across anyone who supports JI (or any other party) and told me that they gave Chanda or Fitra to MQM (willingly or unwillingly).

Actually, few of my distant cousins who support JI, living in Nazimabad, told me that MQM collects Bhatta (Zabardasti). Knowing their claim, when they were unaware what my question would imply, I told them (not at the time they claimed MQM collects Bhatta) that how sad it is that they give chanda to MQM and they said that they never gave a single penny to MQM ever. I asked them again ‘Never’ and they said ‘Never’ … then only I told them that if they never gave Chanda to MQM then how they claimed once that MQM collects Zabardasti Chanda (Bhatta)?

At the time, I can easily see embarrassment on their faces … though they justified their claim by saying that MQM never collected Bhatta from them, but they know MQM does, as they know people from whom MQM collected chanda Zabardasti (Bhatta). I then told them that they must be telling truth, as it is possible that MQM did not collected Bhatta from them because MQM got scared from them. They just kept quiet (leaving suspicion in my mind that a lot of propaganda is going on).

Again, it does not mean that MQM may not be collecting Bhatta, but as far as I am concerned, I have no evidence to make that a conclusion.