okay I understand what ur saying …slavegirls are potential mates but its not automatically assumed that they are legal to have intercourse with unless they are married first to the owner
thats exactly what i always thought ! that was the reason why i started this thread
i wish people are more clear on this subject
so this will mean that all the muslims who possessed slave girls and had intercourse with them without marrying them were guilty of Zina ?
and do the limit on 4 wives only refer to FREE women , not counting slavegirls?
see these are the hadith that i find apparently contradicting this view
sahih muslim and from abu saeed al khudri [ra]
now here if the slave women were married before intercourse …what is the point of mentioning “suffering from the absence of wives”
and also
again why didnt jabir b abdullah[ra] say his wife , rather than slavegirl
Just 2 examples of multiple occassions where muslims of the pious salaf had intercourse with slaves girls [now in all fairness i havent read anywhere that they were NOT wives, but the distinction is always mentioned i.e some are mentioned as wives other as slavegirls ]