how do we relate ‘Sufizm’ in Islam..like wat is basiclly is sufizm?
as far i think there is no such thing as sufizm? and saint? but still want to clear wat is it? and does it has anything concernin with islam?
A few web sites with details on sufism in islam
Kabbala and sufizm
... But on the other pole of this world there is sufi with his deep, thin philosophy
of knowledge of the world and own I considered many(much,many) essence of islam ...
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.:: Dergibi :: Kitap :: Mistik Islam - Sufizme Giris / Julian ...
... Sufizm'in, Islam dünyasinda yogun mistik özellikler göstermis olan diger
geleneklerden kesin bir sekilde ayirt edilmesi gerektigini belirten yazar ...
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sufi-mystic.net - The Key to Sufizm. Questions-Answers
... Q8: Is Sufism a part of Islam? Ans.: Yes. ... Sufism is the inner knowledge of
Islam. Q9: What is Islam? Ans.: Literally means: Submission to God. ...
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... Diyanet Isleri baskanligi Gençlere Din Bilgisi Islami konularda genis
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... vahdet dergisi. haksoz dergisi. nur. risale-i nur II. RISALE-I NUR. SUFIZM.
ISLAM ( TURKCE ). ISLAM ( ENGLISH ). DUTCH ( NL ). LANGUAGES / YABANCI DIL.
KARISIK. ...
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... _ Islam ve Sufizm arasindaki iliski nedir? _ Dinin insan uzerindeki en
derin etkisi, insan olmanin ne demek olduguna yonelik bir arayistir. ...
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... As days passed these people were called as Sufis and this part of Islam
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Sufism and Islam
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perhaps a step-by-step tutorial of google search wud me more helpful....
search up the GS archives and u will find many discussions on the topic....
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ok
thankz ...i will check them...it would be more clear to me wat sufizm is all about...:) thankz for sharin te websites!
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Brother,
Sufism is the very essence of Islam. Its based on the concept of sincerety (ikhlas) and avoidance of show (riya). As the Ahadith bear testimony to the fact that Allah accepts only sincere deeds.
Somehow or the other, Sufism has been tainted with a lot of alien concepts that were never meant to part of it, such as over-emphasizing the importance of wonder-working, glorifying ecstatic transports, etc. These are considered as "states" which though desirable are not the aim of this science. The aim of Sufism is the take allegiance at the hand of a noble Shaykh and then start the struggle to rid oneself of the blameworthy attributes and aquire higher and nobler attributes of character. During the course of this struggle, one must avoid indulging in sins, and practice prescribed prayers (tasbihaat, superogratory prayers) to attain proximity to Allah.
If you really want to learn about Sufism then I would recommend books by Imam Ghazali Rahimullah or Shaykh Abdul Qadir Jilaani Rahimullah.
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Brother,
Sufism is the very essence of Islam. Its based on the concept of sincerety (ikhlas) and avoidance of show (riya). As the Ahadith bear testimony to the fact that Allah accepts only sincere deeds.
Somehow or the other, Sufism has been tainted with a lot of alien concepts that were never meant to part of it, such as over-emphasizing the importance of wonder-working, glorifying ecstatic transports, etc. These are considered as "states" which though desirable are not the aim of this science. The aim of Sufism is the take allegiance at the hand of a noble Shaykh and then start the struggle to rid oneself of the blameworthy attributes and aquire higher and nobler attributes of character. During the course of this struggle, one must avoid indulging in sins, and practice prescribed prayers (tasbihaat, superogratory prayers) to attain proximity to Allah.
If you really want to learn about Sufism then I would recommend books by Imam Ghazali Rahimullah or Shaykh Abdul Qadir Jilaani Rahimullah.
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If above is Sufism then what is Islam and what is the aim of Islam ? How are they different and Why was sufisim required ?
There is extreme Sufism which is pure shirk and kufr and there’s the diluted versions practised by Barelvis and Deobandis etc. (I use to be one myself), which are also heavily influenced by pagan religions but are less obvious.
Islam is pure and simple, and we can completely satisfy our spiritual needs by following the Quran and the Sunnah of Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him).
Qurb-e-Ilahi (nearness to Allah), purity of self and soul, inner peace, curing the heart of its sicknesses etc. can only be attained by submitting our selves to Almighty Allah...
…Not by getting pissed with bhang (Cannabis beverage), listening to ecstatic Qawwalis (most of which are full of shirk), wandering in the wilderness, not grooming ourselves, abstaining from the Halaal blessings of Allah such as food and sex etc. or being a mureed to some greedy peer who doesn’t know jack all about Islam and spirituality and teaches ignorant people innovations, prayers & mantras full of shirk just so that he can skin them of their wealth… Or by exaggerating the status of human 'saints' (dead or alive) and other religious figures and making them equal to Allah.
Saif ul Islam
I hear what you're saying.
The traits you have described are predominantly prevalent in the India/Pakistan region and seriously deviate from the path of Islam.
However, one point you missed out is that whomever decides to find the right path away from the above mentioned cultural/shirk practices, are also immediately labelled as Wahabies!
As far as Sufism is concerened, it just falls into another one of the sect categories for me.
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*Originally posted by Saif-ul-Islam: *
There is extreme Sufism which is pure shirk and kufr and there’s the diluted versions practised by Barelvis and Deobandis etc. (I use to be one myself), which are also heavily influenced by pagan religions but are less obvious.
Islam is pure and simple, and we can completely satisfy our spiritual needs by following the Quran and the Sunnah of Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him).
Qurb-e-Ilahi (nearness to Allah), purity of self and soul, inner peace, curing the heart of its sicknesses etc. can only be attained by submitting our selves to Almighty Allah...
…Not by getting pissed with bhang (Cannabis beverage), listening to ecstatic Qawwalis (most of which are full of shirk), wandering in the wilderness, not grooming ourselves, abstaining from the Halaal blessings of Allah such as food and sex etc. or being a mureed to some greedy peer who doesn’t know jack all about Islam and spirituality and teaches ignorant people innovations, prayers & mantras full of shirk just so that he can skin them of their wealth… Or by exaggerating the status of human 'saints' (dead or alive) and other religious figures and making them equal to Allah.
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Sufism from my readings (not much) is completely within Islam. They do have serious evidence for there case-but I guess any group can bring that.
They are peaceful and submit completely to Allah. Non Sufis tend to be more fanatical and prone to terrorist activities. Never heard of Sufi terrorism!
Saif
stereotyping sufis as peer worshipping, bhang using, qawali listening is incorrect
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Maybe I shouldn’t stereotype but I’m yet to come across a Sufi whose beliefs and practices are in conformity with the Quran and Ahadith.
I’m not saying all of them do weird stuff like drink bhang, and spin like a spinning tops and chant “hu hu” but their beliefs do sometimes contradict Islam like some of them believe that the creation and creator are one and Prophets and saints are alive in their graves and can help us if we ask them for madad etc.
Ibadah, Dhikr, Darood and Dua’s etc. which have basis in the Quran and Sunnah are good they keep us aware of Allah, increase his love and fear in our hearts and gives us inner peace but there is no need to start living a life of hermits or doing stupid breathing exercises or chanting a mantra a particular number of times in one breath etc.
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Sufism from my readings (not much) is completely within Islam. They do have serious evidence for there case-but I guess any group can bring that.
They are peaceful and submit completely to Allah. Non Sufis tend to be more fanatical and prone to terrorist activities. Never heard of Sufi terrorism!
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There are different types of Sufis so you can't say all of them are not terrorists. I read some where that OBL was/is a Sufi.
Being 100% peaceful, turning the other cheek all the time and being like Buddhists is being stupid and unrealistic. It is necessary to be violent sometimes...
I hope some of you are not confusing sufis with majzoob. And then there are some downright fakes (stoned out of their minds in front of Daata Darbaar).
Sufis are just normal people who have studied Islam and are knowledgable about it. They look like normal muslims and talk like normal muslims. Most of the Islam in the Indian sub-continent was spread through the efforts of sufis.
Majzoob, on the other hand, is different. And that is where most people get confused. A majzoob is the one, who spent so much time meditating about the purpose of life, religion, relations and what not, that he looses focus and his brains stop to function in a coordinated manner, which we expect from normal people. They sometimes, act irrationally. They beat people up by sticks (there is a popular peer saheb who was visited by Benazir and NS etc). They do damm darood too (if they so desire). Their minds work on a different level. They may leave civilization and decide to live in a jungle or they can live on a mazaar or do anything else. They seldom work for a living and usually live off charities, and not at their homes. It can be good or it can be bad. Doctors consider them mental patients. Some others consider them "puhanchay huway".
Let me tell you the litmus test. Any peer saheb you meet, just see if he follows shariat. If he does, he is ok. If he does not, leave. Some fake peers, in the guise of majzoobiat or what not, indulge in all kinds of weird activities (drugs, women, dancing, loud music, beads, loud talking etc). Whether they have built a reputation for anything (helps childless couples, gets you a job, gets you love, changes your life etc), its no use. Don't waste your time with anyone who does not follow shariat.
Very well said Faisal :k: You did the true justice with the topic. Very balanced and unbiased.
if u really want to intriduce yourself with tareeqat,tasawwouf or called sufism then read the book "KASHF -AL -MAHJOOB" whose writer is hazrat data sahib.
there is a mathematical formula
shareiat + ishaq = tareeqat(sufisim)
if u only wanna implement shareiat on yourself then u dont need any kind of sufism. but if u wanna ishq-e-rasool and ishq-e-elahi then u need a sheikh ,to whom u sell yourself, u must obey his every word even in your thoughts.
normally it is said that in kerbala the muderders of ahle-bait tried to shaheed them soon because they wanted to offer prayer on time.they were obeying shareiat but there hearts had no love for ahle-bait.
now the point why sufis left halal food and sex.because obeying nufs is not incouraged in islam and its disliked.but islam is for all kind of people .
some people only give 2 1/2 percent of money as zakat and some have no money to give in zakat because they already have given every thing to other people.
you have to think where u wanna stand, if only wanna obey shareiat then stick to it and if u wanna be something extra ordinary then u need a guide or sheikh.
and one more thing in sufism there is no firqa like bareelvi or sunni. the purpose of sufism is to combine muslims not to devide them in firqas.
you should also study the life of famous sufies.
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*Originally posted by Saif-ul-Islam: *
There are different types of Sufis so you can't say all of them are not terrorists. I read some where that OBL was/is a Sufi.
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errr no, he is a kattar wahabi from what everyone else has written.
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Sufism is not exactly confined to any sect is it?
He might claim to be a Salafi but his actions do not reflect the teachings of the Quran and Sunnah and the Salaf us-Salih.
And don't believe all the bull-**** western media tells you.
PS. It's Salafi not Wahhabi.