One attack was done by US military on Iraqi’s and the Pakistani Army takes credit of the other targeting inhabitants of Wana.
50 killed in aerial bombing of al-Qaeda hideouts by Pakistan
Islamabad, Sep 09 - At least 50 persons were killed and several injured when Pakistan’s fighter planes and gunship helicopters bombed hideouts of al-Qaeda militants and their local supporters today in a major offensive in the tribal region close to the Afghanistan border.
Pakistan’s private television channels Geo and ARY reported that a guided missile hit a meeting of the foreign militants in Khunkhela mountains in South Waziristan tribal region, killing 40 people.
Ten others were killed when the fighter planes dropped bombs when the people were collecting bodies of the dead.
There was no official word on the number of casualties.
The operations, part of efforts by Pakistan’s military to flush out al-Qaeda militants holed up in the region, came a day after a landmine blast hit a Pakistani military convoy near Wana, the headquarters of South Waziristan, injuring three soldiers.
Residents said the army opened fire on the people after the blast, killing six civilians.
Pakistan Defence Spokesman, Maj. Gen. Shaukat Sultan however blamed the firing from militants for the civilian casualties.
Today’s offensive appears to be one of the most firce security operations in South Waziristan in recent months.
Local journalists and tribesmen said Pakistani air force jets and helicopters were seen assisting the ground forces in the operation near the town of Wana.
US missile attack kills 13 civilians in Iraq
By Patrick Cockburn in Baghdad
13 September 2004
“I am a journalist. I’m dying, I’m dying,” screamed Mazen al-Tumeizi, a correspondent for the Arabic television channel al-Arabiya, after shrapnel from a rocket fired by an American helicopter interrupted his live broadcast and slammed into his back.
Twelve others were killed and 61 wounded by rockets from two US helicopters on Haifa Street in central Baghdad. They had fired into a crowd milling around a burning Bradley fighting vehicle that had been hit by a rocket or bomb hours before.
It comes on one of Iraq’s bloodiest days for weeks in which at least 110 people died in clashes around the country. The Health Ministry said the worst casualties were in Baghdad and in Tal Afar near the Syrian border, where 51 people died.
“The helicopter fired on the Bradley to destroy it after it had been hit earlier and it was on fire,” said Major Phil Smith of the 1st Cavalry Division. “It was for the safety of the people around it.”
One attack was done by US military on Iraqi's and the **Pakistani Army takes credit **of the other targeting inhabitants of Wana.
50 killed in aerial bombing of al-Qaeda hideouts by Pakistan
Islamabad, Sep 09 - At least 50 persons were killed and several injured when Pakistan's fighter planes and gunship helicopters bombed hideouts of al-Qaeda militants
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Typical commie leftie attack on Pak army!
What's going on in Iraq is US and Iraqi problem.
However venomous remarks (in the subject line) about Pak army's ops against Talib and Arrrab terrorists are totally uncalled for.
Pak army gave ample time to the Arrrabs to live peacefully in the tribal areas. Sort of Don't ask Don't tell policy. Arrrab's on the other hand took it as a sign of weakness and started using Pakistani soil for their nefarious purposes.
These Arrrab Toads don't understand that the "guests" are not supposed to destroy their hosts. I guess it is too much to expect from Biddus. They leaches sucked the blood out of Jordan, Lebanon, West Bank, and Afghanistan. Now the same Biddu leaches are after Tribal areas. Fortunately Pak army is there to strike regular chappals on their Arrrrab-behinds.
Commie lefties rest assured, Pak army will take care of these Biddu leaches.
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Typical commie leftie attack on Pak army!
What's going on in Iraq is US and Iraqi problem.
However venomous remarks (in the subject line) about Pak army's ops against Talib and Arrrab terrorists are totally uncalled for.
Pak army gave ample time to the Arrrabs to live peacefully in the tribal areas. Sort of Don't ask Don't tell policy. Arrrab's on the other hand took it as a sign of weakness and started using Pakistani soil for their nefarious purposes.
These Arrrab Toads don't understand that the "guests" are not supposed to destroy their hosts. I guess it is too much to expect from Biddus. They leaches sucked the blood out of Jordan, Lebanon, West Bank, and Afghanistan. Now the same Biddu leaches are after Tribal areas. Fortunately Pak army is there to strike regular chappals on their Arrrrab-behinds.
Commie lefties rest assured, Pak army will take care of these Biddu leaches.
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Could you support your claims with something credible?
rather than saying:
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Arrrab terrorists
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Arrrab Toads
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They leaches sucked the blood out of Jordan, Lebanon, West Bank, and Afghanistan. Now the same Biddu leaches are after Tribal areas
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Pak army is there to strike regular chappals on their Arrrrab-behinds
Such a horrific attack on civilians by Americans. Why?? Why did they kill unarmed civillians? They were not posing any threat to the US troops. They had no weapons that they were firing on US personnell. Then Why??
American army spokesman says, troops were fired upon from the crowd that was bombed. Sure, that the civillians who were killed might have supported Al-Sadr but none of them held a weapon or fired upon Americans. The US simply brushes aside incidents like this one just by saying that they were fired upon from the crowd. I disagree…
If one was to count the civilian casualties committed by Americans over the years, they would amount to soo many that we’d probably be able to repopulate China.
This is Pakistan Affairs, so Ill stick to the attack by the Pak Army. I think our forces have had a good success rate in Wana. I mean look at the Al-Qaida leaders statements on the Al-Jazeera Tape, even he said that if it werent for the Pak Army operations along the borders, they would have controlled Afghanistan. I know hes probably exaggerating, but he wouldnt have said that had the Pak army not made a formidable attack.
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This is Pakistan Affairs, so Ill stick to the attack by the Pak Army. I think our forces have had a good success rate in Wana. I mean look at the Al-Qaida leaders statements on the Al-Jazeera Tape, even he said that if it werent for the Pak Army operations along the borders, they would have controlelled Afghanistan. I know hes probably exaggerating, but he wouldnt have said that had the Pak army not made a formidable attack.
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I initially posted this in the World forum, I wonder whose idea was it to move it here.
I didn't see the al jazeera tape yet, so I wouldn't comment on what the "al-qaeda" leaders have said about the operations by Pak Army, in that area.
But to me Pak Army has yet to prove that their operation is a legitimate operation.
Since, before Pakistan had sided with US, there weren't any problems within Pakistans borders. It is only when Pakistan assisted the US in destroying Afghanistan that we see people are becoming anti Pakistan and are trying to hurt the Pakistani govt.
So IMO that Pakistan initiated this new war with its own people and I find it difficult to support Pak Army, since they have yet to justify their stance of supporting the US in the first place.
I initially posted this in the World forum, I wonder whose idea was it to move it here.
I didn't see the al jazeera tape yet, so I wouldn't comment on what the "al-qaeda" leaders have said about the operations by Pak Army, in that area.
But to me Pak Army has yet to prove that their operation is a legitimate operation.
Since, before Pakistan had sided with US, there weren't any problems within Pakistans borders. It is only when Pakistan assisted the US in destroying Afghanistan that we see people are becoming anti Pakistan and are trying to hurt the Pakistani govt.
So IMO that Pakistan initiated this new war with its own people and I find it difficult to support Pak Army, since they have yet to justify their stance of supporting the US in the first place.
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But how can you justify foriegn terrorists using Pakistan soil for their activities? They must be rooted out. Dont you think?
But how can you justify foriegn terrorists using Pakistan soil for their activities? They must be rooted out. Dont you think?
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Pakistan has yet to prove that before using gunships to attack a gathering, and killing people in cold blood. Its a cowardly act.
I mentioned earlier, that these people whom Pak Army is supposedly "targeting", claiming them to be "foreign terrorist" were earlier known to be amongst Mujahideen who fought the soviets out and then were in the process of bringing stability to Afghanistan.
Pakistan then supported the US stance on crushing the existing Govt. in Afghanistan, and now here we are, the mujahideen have a new enemy in the region, namely "Pak Army", we cannot ignore that Pak Army is solely responsible for having new enemies, calling them foreign terrorists will not change their true status, which is "mujahideen".
I challenge you to prove to me that on Judgement Day, a supporter of Pak Army would be rewarded and a supporter of Mujahideen aka "foreign terrorists" would be punished.
Since I am concerned about how I would be dealt with on Judgement Day, I don't want to end up in Hellfire because I supported Pak Army just because I was a Pakistani.
...... calling them foreign terrorists will not change their true status, which is "mujahideen".
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Camo! you can call them whatever you want. These MAToo Arrrab terrrorist had made Afghan life as hell in Paktika area. They want to use Pak soil for launching attacks on Afghan population. That makes them international criminals. If Pak army won't kick their A$$, Pakistan will become Talib-hell where everyone will be forced to eat Halwa. We don't want Halwa khori and Mullah Giri. MAToos are not welcome here. They can stay in Saudi Arabia or other Muslim brother countries like Iran. Khuda Hafiz you all MAToos, We won't miss you.
Exactly, we will not let these foriegn terrorists (whom you are calling mojahedin) use our grounds as their headquarters to launch attacks, to kill innocent children in Russia, or bomb some embassy in any other country. If these are mujahideen from the Soviet war, why dont they go back to their own countries, they have no legality or paperwork in this country anyway. And if they were innocent or peaceful settlers, the Pak Army would never have attacked them. Even the Al-Qaeda 2nd in Command admitted (in the most recent tape to Al-Jazeera) that the Pak operation alongside the border has caused them heavy losses, and this is the sort of person that said the US attack has done nothing to them, but hes admitted the Pak Army offensive caused heavy losses, so our Army is right on target. May Allah grant them success!!
The anchor said they claimed that had it not been for the Pakistani army offensive along the border, U.S. forces would have been "driven out a long time ago*
Camo! you can call them whatever you want. These MAToo Arrrab terrrorist had made Afghan life as hell in Paktika area. They want to use Pak soil for launching attacks on Afghan population. That makes them international criminals. If Pak army won't kick their A$$, Pakistan will become Talib-hell where everyone will be forced to eat Halwa. We don't want Halwa khori and Mullah Giri. MAToos are not welcome here. They can stay in Saudi Arabia or other Muslim brother countries like Iran. Khuda Hafiz you all MAToos, We won't miss you.
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I disagree, Afghanistan was in much better shape under Taliban than it is in now. BTW Taliban are not Arabs.
No one is using Pakistani soil to launch attacks anywhere, this is a misconception and is far from the truth.
Who are you to say what's welcome and what's not and based on what?
I suggest you re-read my post, I never said that the people who were killed by the missile attacks by the mercenary Army, were mujahideen, if you ask me, they maybe regular people having a regular meeting, I do not know.
i said that Pak Army has yet to prove that those people were foreign terrorists and that they were involved in any attack on innocents.
How can you say that Pak Army wouldn’t have attacked them if they were innocent or peaceful settlers, through out history the mercenary army of Pakistan has been involved in unjustified killing of innocent unarmed individuals, how can you prove your claim?
Also please re-read the article that you use as a reference, the claim that you are referring to was NOT made by “Al-Qaeda 2nd in Command”, so basically what you mentioned in your earlier posts in praise of the mercenary Army, have no weight to them.
If you want me to comment on that remark that was made by some one, the only reason I could think of is that maybe their focus is now divided, since they have to take care of three enemies at one time, its not easy to drive the Americans out as much as it would have been if they had to deal with one enemy at a time.
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I suggest you re-read my post, I never said that the people who were killed by the missile attacks by the mercenary Army, were mujahideen, if you ask me, they maybe regular people having a regular meeting, I do not know.
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How can you prove they were regular people?
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i said that Pak Army has yet to prove that those people were foreign terrorists and that they were involved in any attack on innocents.
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Come on dude, chechans and arabs armed with loads of sohpisticated weapons and ammo, you expect them to be innocent? May I remind you that they offerred a tough resistance to the Pak Army in the beginning, infact they even claimed victory at first, but now that the Pak Army has carried out the offensive long enough, and weakened them, they are crumbling. Why did Zwahiri mention the Pak offensive if it wasnt doing any harm to the Al-Qaida?
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How can you say that Pak Army wouldn't have attacked them if they were innocent or peaceful settlers, through out history the mercenary army of Pakistan has been involved in unjustified killing of innocent unarmed individuals, how can you prove your claim?
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Thats just your belief, not mine.
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Also please re-read the article that you use as a reference, the claim that you are referring to was NOT made by "Al-Qaeda 2nd in Command", so basically what you mentioned in your earlier posts in praise of the mercenary Army, have no weight to them.
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Yeah but zwahiri is an Al-Qaeda leader right? I am not sure what the chain of command is like, since so many of them were killed. But he speaks for the Al-Qaeda right?
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If you want me to comment on that remark that was made by some one, the only reason I could think of is that maybe their focus is now divided, since they have to take care of three enemies at one time, its not easy to drive the Americans out as much as it would have been if they had
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All the better, if these terrorists provide target practice to our boys, then be it, thats what our army was made for in the first place, so these foriegn terrorists are not left unchecked when they think of using Pakistan as their base to carry out sadistic acts.
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How can you prove they were regular people?
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Unless they are proved otherwise, I would consider them to be ordinary people, and up until now, the tribals of that region have said that women, children and men from the tribal region were the ones that were killed by that attack.
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Come on dude, chechans and arabs armed with loads of sohpisticated weapons and ammo, you expect them to be innocent? May I remind you that they offerred a tough resistance to the Pak Army in the beginning, infact they even claimed victory at first, but now that the Pak Army has carried out the offensive long enough, and weakened them, they are crumbling. Why did Zwahiri mention the Pak offensive if it wasnt doing any harm to the Al-Qaida?
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We can either have a discussion on this particular attack or we could broaden it by discussing several other incidents that took place in that region, but lets decide on that first rather than mixing different incidents and confusing readers.
In this particular attack there was NO resistance at all, so your point is invalid here.
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Thats just your belief, not mine.
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I believe in facts, and after reading history from various perspectives, the facts clearly state that Pak Army is merely a mercenary Army.
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Yeah but zwahiri is an Al-Qaeda leader right? I am not sure what the chain of command is like, since so many of them were killed. But he speaks for the Al-Qaeda right?
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Did you read that article or not? The claim that you are referring to, was NOT made by Al Zawahiri.
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All the better, if these terrorists provide target practice to our boys, then be it, thats what our army was made for in the first place, so these foriegn terrorists are not left unchecked when they think of using Pakistan as their base to carry out sadistic acts.
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And you think that this is justified? Do you still believe that by abusing Power in this world you shall be pardoned on Judgement Day?
The only reason why there is no resistance anymore is that this operation has been going on for a long time now! They dont have the capabilities to go into combat for an extended period with the Pak Army. They are either regrouping, retreating, or trying their last resorts against a superior force. Soon they will be done for, atleast in our country. The best coverage on this operation was given on Geo. Did you see the equipment that they left behind? Just yesterday they found an underground communication center with communication technology inside. If its not Zwahiri in the tape, then who is it? Btw, this is coming from Al-Jazeera. If Pakistanis were targetting mere civilians, then why is the Al-Qaeda cursing Musharraf and his military operations? And lastly, they were given orders by the Pak Government to surrender, come out, be registered already, but they chose not to.
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The only reason why there is no resistance anymore is that this operation has been going on for a long time now! They dont have the capabilities to go into combat for an extended period with the Pak Army. They are either regrouping, retreating, or trying their last resorts against a superior force. Soon they will be done for, atleast in our country. The best coverage on this operation was given on Geo. Did you see the equipment that they left behind? Just yesterday they found an underground communication center with communication technology inside. If its not Zwahiri in the tape, then who is it? Btw, this is coming from Al-Jazeera. If Pakistanis were targetting mere civilians, then why is the Al-Qaeda cursing Musharraf and his military operations? And lastly, they were given orders by the Pak Government to surrender, come out, be registered already, but they chose not to.
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What you claim to be the reasoning behind no resistance is merely your opinion, and I disagree with you.
No I did not see Geo's coverage, I try to stay away from tricknology as much as I can.
I asked you to re-read that article, you shall find out who made those claims, its written in simple english, all you have to do is to pay attention to what is written rather than skimming through.
After reading your post, I am confident that you probably do not know that mujahid's fight against oppressors who oppress the weak, and if they are cursing Musharraf and his military operation, the only reason that can be behind it, is that, now the mujahids have to fight Musharraf and his Army also since he is oppressing the weak and the helpless in Waziristan. I know it may be extremely hard for you to understand this, since you probably believe that the Mujahid's are selfish, but they are selfless, may Allah accept their struggle against the oppressors, Aameen.
You expect self ruled people to register just because you want them to? You may believe that they are foreign, but more than likely they are the locals who don't want to get registered. Forget that, is every person in the rest of Pakistan registered?
They are not local. And stop making this discussion personal… What you and I think, really doesnt matter, but what these terrorists and the Pak military brass think does matter. Its funny, on one hand you call these people mujhahideen fighting the Pak Army, and on the other hand you call them innocent bystanders caught up in the fire fight. First you said that these are foriegners, ex-mujhahideen from the Afghan Soviet war settled here, and now youre saying that they are locals. Make up your mind please. While you, the Pak army will continue to pound them, they are offerring no resistance now, its clear they werent ready for an extended combat. And yes, Zwahiri did say he was getting support from Pakistan (he was referring to these extremist elements which are now being rooted out), and the mujahideen said they could have taken over Afghanistan had it not been for teh Pak military offensive, hence its obvious. Death to all these people who are using our soil for terrorist activities abroad, and full commendations to the Pak Army.
Read this… Local/innocent people my @#$@#$… And yeah, the media is allowed access to most parts…*
Huge cache of arms seized near Wana
Sultan says bodies of four foreign
militants recovered
ISLAMABAD: Troops have recovered bodies of four foreign militants and also seized a large quantity of arms from a fortress-like house in the rugged tribal belt near the Afghan border, the military said Friday.
The suspected al-Qaeda-linked militants were killed Tuesday in a clash with security forces in Khanigurram area near Wana, the main town in the troubled South Waziristan region, military spokesman Major General Shaukat Sultan said. “They were all foreigners,” Sultan told AFP, without giving their nationalities. “Their bodies are with security forces” at a military post in the area, he added.
Sultan said troops engaged in siege and search operations in the area seized an arms dump from a house owned by a local cleric who claimed it was a madrassa (Islamic seminary) in Makin area, 60 kilometres north of Wana. “It was a mini-fort, with cellars, bunkers and everything.” He said the building belonging to cleric Maulawi Shafiq was wrongly termed as a madrassa. “We have seized hundreds of rockets and Kalashnikov assault rifles,” he said. “We wanted to show the compound to the local and foreign journalists, but unfortunately their helicopter was forced to return due to inclement weather.” He said the fortress, targeted by security forces in Makin area, was being used as “miscreants’ hideout.”
Militants fired on security forces from the house on Tuesday and the troops targeted the house in retaliation, he said. Officials suspect a large number of al-Qaeda followers have taken refuge in the mountainous tribal belt after fleeing Afghanistan in late 2001 when the Taliban were toppled. Around 150 foreign fighters have been killed in the tribal areas since October last year, according to military officials. :jhanda:
A roadside bomb explosion injured three soldiers, and militants fired rockets at a security forces base Friday, officials said. The “improvised explosive device” went off around midday near trucks carrying the troops in Kani Guram, a village in the South Waziristan tribal region, said Sultan. No one claimed responsibility for the explosion, which damaged one of the vehicles, Sultan said.
In Wana, militants fired two rockets at a base for army and paramilitary troops, but neither hit the facility and no one was injured in the attack, another army official said on condition of anonymity.
An intelligence official in the town said soldiers at the base retaliated with mortars and machine guns. It was not known if the attackers suffered any casualties. The official, who asked not to be named, said security forces defused another rocket near the base.
Also Friday, a man and his 4-year-old daughter were injured when a mortar round hit their home in Dhog village outside Wana. It was not clear who fired the round. Sultan said the operation in Wana and adjoining areas is only against terrorists and the security forces have cleared the Makin area of miscreants.
Briefing the newsmen on latest Wana situation, Sultan said huge arms cache including 400 rockets, scores of hand grenades and other ammunition was discovered from the vast house of Shafiq.
To a question about casualties in this action, he said, for now there are no confirmed reports of casualties, and if anybody had died, their bodies might have been taken along by the miscreants.
He said trenches, bunkers, underground channels and towers in the house were clearly meant for fighting purposes and claiming this house as a madrassa was a baseless assertion.
Sultan said neither Maulvi Shafiq was arrested nor there was any information of his death in the action. After clearing Kalusha, Shakai and surrounding areas, he said now the security forces have also cleared the Makin area.
He said majority of those killed in September 9 operation on training camp of terrorists in the Wana area were foreigners. Sultan explained that the security forces hit the training camp after getting detailed information from various sources like satellite images, reconnaissance and ground information.
“It was a precise and well focussed action and claims of certain quarters about killing of innocents people were baseless as there is no civil population in the surroundings,” he said and added, “there was no question of killing the civilians.”
He reiterated the offer of amnesty of the government to foreign extremists in Wana and adjoining areas to surrender themselves and register with the authorities. He said the government was keeping open both the channels; the action and the negotiation, and pointed out three possibilities to bring this operation to an end. He asked the militants, both local and foreigners to surrender, proposed to the local people to denounce unlawful activities and asked the foreigners to surrender and register themselves with the authorities.
About access to media to operation areas, the DG ISPR said, media was freely reporting the situation in WANA and there was no bar on their visiting this area. "Local reporters and stingers of foreign media organizations were freely reporting the happenings in Wana. They are only advised to avoid to go to the troubled areas due to security reasons," he stated. On insistence by the journalists, Shaukat said, “we can facilitate your visits to the area. And if you want to go there by yourselves, you can do so at your own risk.” —Agencies
Our Peshawar correspondent adds: The government and Ahmadzai Wazir tribes of Wana have decided that the economic sanctions would be withdrawn against sub-tribes which would surrender their wanted persons.
A grand tribal jirga comprising 500 elders belonging to various sections of Ahmadzai Wazir tribe and its sub-tribes held discussions with NWFP Governor Syed Iftikhar Hussain Shah at Governor’s House on Thursday night.
MNA Maulana Abdul Malik, Sahibzada Saeed Ahmad, secretary to governor, Brig (retd) Mahmood Shah, secretary security Fata, and Asmatullah Gandapur, political agent South Waziristan Agency, were also present, says a handout.
The governor had called in the Ahmadzai Wazir Jirga. Earlier agreements with the sub-tribes of Ahmadzai have provided guarantees of Rs 10 million, holding them responsible for the security of their respective areas.
The governor, addressing the jirga, said in accordance with the past agreements the tribes were bound to ensure peace in the area of their jurisdiction. Therefore, he added, there must neither be any rocket attack nor any bomb blast or mine explosion in future.
The governor said the government had no enmity with the tribesmen, rather it earnestly desired to remove backwardness of the tribal areas. However, he remarked the materialisation of this aspiration depended upon the restoration of peace in the area.
He assured the jirga that if Ahmadzai Wazirs fulfilled their pledges, the curbs would be lifted. Markets would be opened, transport allowed to ply and all the detained persons released if not found guilty.
The governor said had the tribesmen of Wana agreed to the government proposals and fulfilled their responsibilities at the very beginning, the current situation would have been avoided.
The tribal elders assured to implement the agreements and fulfill their responsibilities accordingly. The foreigners, they added, have since been pulled out, however the few other miscreants would also suffer for their evil deeds.
Meanwhile, a joint jirga of three sub-tribes of Mehsuds of Badar; Nazarkhel, Nano Khel and Shingi called on the NWFP governor on Friday and assured him of maintaining peaceful atmosphere in their respective areas besides extending every co-operation to the government in the ongoing situation.
I do not enjoy making discussions personal, but you repeatedly kept asking me the same question over and over again, I guess my last response worked, it made you re-read the article and solve the mystery, on who actually made that comment.
Anyways, back to the discussion, I never deviated from my initial stance about the people who were killed by the attack, if you re-read each of my posts you can easily find that out, so just because you are of the opinion that I have yet to make my mind doesn’t mean anything, so here’s some more homework for you. Now I wouldn’t have said this to you if you hadn’t accused me of saying this first and that afterwards. So, next time read the posts carefully before responding.
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.....I never deviated from my initial stance .......
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Yeap! Initial MAToo stance is still there. The MAToos terrorists have completly lost it. They want to attack army in the name of religion, nationalism, and you name it. These Baha-Rat-i chamcha-Gir, Arrrab terrorist supporters are simply following the "Kartoot" of the halwa-Khor Mullah Moe.
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....... next time read the posts carefully before responding.
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MAToo posts have to be read carefully. They are filled with leftie-commie Arrra-booboo terrorist propaganda.
