Clubbing, Going to Bars and Beaches

mercenary2k · April 7, 2009, 1:34am

I have a question:

I like to go clubbing…but only to hang out with friends and listen to music, not to drink or pick up girls…

I also like to go to Bars and Pubs and watch soccer and sports events but not to drink…

I also like to go to the beach but not to stare at girls in Bikinis but play beach volleyball with friends and hang out…

Am I doing something un-Islamic by going to these places?

Some of my Islamic friends say that I am

Please offer your own opinion

pak-one · April 7, 2009, 3:08am

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Nothing wrong with it. Too many people assume that you must be one way or the other if you hit the clubs, bars and the beaches. I do all three, keep up with my prayers, read the Qur'an.

Part of my job requires the first two, and i love the water..I live close to the beach so morning jog clears the head. Before those muslim friends critique your choices, maybe they need to think about what they are doing that is unislamic.

Das_Reich · April 7, 2009, 4:36am

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it all boils down to intentions basically
and only u and God knows that

but the reason why its recommended to avoid this is because many weak willed people succumb to peer pressure and start indulging in haram actvities as a result of bad company ....if u can avoid that and feel confident about it then technically ur not doing anything wrong

midnighteyes · April 7, 2009, 11:13pm

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Some things to think about that might help you answer your own question....

Ask yourself if you died at that moment, is that where you would want to be resurrected from?

If the Prophet PBUH came to spend a day with you, is that where you'd want him to see you?

The angels that are with you at every moment, is that where you want to take them?

Like they say, when you go to a fish market even if you dont buy any fish or touch any fish, you will still walk out stinking. Im not saying what is or isnt permissable, just giving you some things to think about

R.A.W · April 8, 2009, 1:27am

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The more you remain near to fire, the more you increase the chances of one spark falling on your clothes. Human being is too weak, testing one's self control might not always be a good idea. The devil always initially persuade us to come near a sin by keeping our self away from it. By the time a person falls prey to a sin, he realizes that the devil persuaded him to take all the steps to that sin with " You don't commit those sins, you just mind your own business in that area"

I know some people who used to say exactly what you have said in your post, but now they do everything which they initially said they didn't. You have been very lucky up till now, by the grace and mercy of Allah s.w.t.

p.s. Many* incidents* happened to people, which started with just playing volleyball. At times the volleyball accidentally falls in the area where girls are playing....the girl who returns the volleyball turns out to be very beautiful (in THAT dress) even though the man tried to not look but that one unintentional glimpse was enough to invade his heart....I hope I don't have to explain further...

I apologize for the example, but I have come to know people who became victim of such traps and lost control over their heart after such incidents , *specially after finding out that the positive invitation from the other side meant an *initiation of two way traffic for* future.*

test01 · April 8, 2009, 1:34am

Sounds like a case requiring stoning to death but please double check with Haji Muslim Khan of Nizam-e-Adl fame…

bob_chasm · April 8, 2009, 1:41am

I am not sure if it is unIslamic, but sounds like the life of a loser. Can't you do anything really interesting and constructive, instead of hoping one of those bikini clad drunk chicks, that you dont look at, will get drunk enough to find you interesting? lol. I am just joking.

bitter_reality · April 8, 2009, 2:23pm

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I like going to Strips clubs. I just see them but never touch them.....

I like getting massaged in exotic Asian massage parlours but never i get any sensual feelings when they massage....

My islamic friends tell me that you are doing bad.....

Please tell me where I stand?

bitter_reality · April 8, 2009, 2:24pm

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Let me further add up " Only Gods knows what in my heart " but these islamic taliban like friends of mine say I am wrong. Share your comments please

njgal · April 8, 2009, 2:28pm

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^ :)

bitter_reality · April 8, 2009, 2:37pm

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I do grocerries ...I do this...I do that............

Bhai jaan we are not moral cops...and we not Angels of God. Apnay Gunnah aur sawaab discuss ker rahay ho .....very good attention seeking post....
and I tell you mark my words guyz ..if somebody advises him to stay away from these............he will make it a " Islam vs Secular " debate and...ultimately he will converge it to condeming Talibans.....that I do this n that ..... but Talibans harass me from going to beaches. Stop playin the victim card. Grow up bhai jaan!

Monk · April 8, 2009, 2:41pm

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Dude yes and no.
No-- nothing un-islamic there!!!!
Prophet alway promoted "miana-rawi" (a calm/middle/NOT fuzzy) way of living, SO YES you tend to live on the edge.

PlayStation: dude you are little old and too smart for going through this phase.

Mirch · April 8, 2009, 2:43pm

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If you are doing tasbeeh while you are in that bar and if you keep on preaching to your friends about virtues of being a good Muslim. And , then, at Namaz time , you make it a point to offer your Namaz irrespective of the fact that you are in a bar or club then I guess you will be OK on the day of judgement and will have the right answers for your Allah to whom you are answerable for your actions and not for the actions of your friends.
Walllah Alim biswab. Allah knows the best.

bitter_reality · April 8, 2009, 2:49pm

Interesting opinion . I had a friend - a former colleague ; he used to put this argument...that Yes I got to red light area but i go to preach.....and we all knew his perversion but anways its his deed and his life.

Plus, You can always do tasbeeh and tableegh in your own house , mosque and neighborhood , doing your prayers in a bar , brothel or club is not recommended.

Lucid_Chaotic · April 8, 2009, 5:05pm

dude... there's something called sarcasm...

bitter_reality · April 8, 2009, 5:08pm

Oh ok Sorry for my simpilicty then!

RupayHalwa · April 8, 2009, 10:46pm

I guess its like "prevention is better than a cure" thing. The hadith below might be why your friends are saying u r being un-Islamic.

H258. "Whosoever believes in Allah and the Last Day must not sit at a table at which khamr is consumed." [Ahmad, Tirmidhi]

Slickstar · April 8, 2009, 11:51pm

stop socializing in public. In fact, stay inside your room and DO NOT LEAVE.

id also advise you to reconsider your friendships with males, you/they might have the tendencies to explore homosexuality.

PyariCgudia · April 9, 2009, 12:41am

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Can't answer this question for you as I am not God. But apparently, we've got at least 5 Gods here to give you their opinions. Good luck.

Crescent · April 9, 2009, 4:54am

Your talking as if God didn't send a book down for guidance.