Just something came into my mind yesterday and I thought it might interest others too.
This is a comparison of treatment at extreem.
**Taliban captured female journalist and held her captive in 2001 **
Taliban a story of past. Who were termed as religious fanatics, extreemly criticised for treetment of women. They captured a female journalist Yvonne Ridley and held her captive in 2001. She was ful of praise for Taliban upon her release from prison. She eventually converted to Islam after some time
US army humiliated and tortured Iraqi prisoners beyond imagination
US is a self proclaimed champian regarding protection of human rights in the world. What its army did is well known to everyone.
Its just camparison.
ps. Mods you can move this to whichever forum you like, or may lock it.
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Well why dont you compare the Taliban whipping their women on the roads for having their face uncovered or their feet showing with the treatment of women in teh US, or the fact that women couldnt work, nor study..Of course you can claim that women could walk freely withou the treat of criminal elemnts, but how does it matter when they were hardly let outside, and the biggest criminals were in charge.
The sad truth is that under the guise of religion, their strict interpretation of it, it was just a chance for the animal in everyone to pop out and roam freely......
You are so lame...Just because the Taliban were Muslim you dont have to defend them...Lets face it they were scum of teh earth, despots, tyrants and hypocrites.
I just dont get it,I know the Koran has prescribed ceratain guidelines to life, but then if somone does not wish to live that way, let them be...why the moral police?
Just to clarify I had no sympathies with Taliban and nor do I feel any pleasure in hating USA.
Just to compare the treatment of prisoner(s) under two type of regimes who had a very high profile and exactly opposite image in media, but thier action shattered it badly.
Secondly, regardless of thier(Taliban's) policies it is quite heart warming to see/hear any non-muslim actually bieng impressed by Muslims on the basis of morality in this age :(
I agree GEorge Bush and his Government along with its disgraced American armed forces are nothing but scum of earth despots, tyrants and hypocrites!
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Definitely, Bush is worse than scum, he is a disgrace to what the American constitution represents....
But AK47, the point I am trying to make is that you just cant admit that any Muslim can be wrong or evil...even here you have just stated that Bush is a tyrant...agreed but I am yet to see you admit the same about any Muslim...
That is my point, for a minute forget they claim to be muslims. Evil and terrorism, hae no religion, they are all ******* spwans of the sewer...
Unless you consider US army as representative of Christian teachings, hence need to be compared to Talibaan... lets move this dicussion to political forum (WA) where treatment of POW's can be more broadly discussed.
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Unless you consider US army as representative of Christian teachings, hence need to be compared to Talibaan... lets move this dicussion to political forum (WA) where treatment of POW's can be more broadly discussed.
What do you say?
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Since when Taliban are considered as representative of Islamic teaching???
They were a malitia who had very intolorent and harsh form of government, not to mention bad repute at global level
But interesting point to consider, Taliban were never cautious of thier media image. They did what they considered right and never bothered how world sees it. Yet US is very cautious of its repute.
Talibaan definitely ARE considered a representative of their brand of Islam... very much so. Infact 'Talibanization' is now a frequently used term to describe their methods.... good, bad and ugly.
Definitely, Bush is worse than scum, he is a disgrace to what the American constitution represents....
But AK47, the point I am trying to make is that you just cant admit that any Muslim can be wrong or evil...even here you have just stated that Bush is a tyrant...agreed but I am yet to see you admit the same about any Muslim...
That is my point, for a minute forget they claim to be muslims. Evil and terrorism, hae no religion, they are all ******* spwans of the sewer...
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Of course there are some bad muslims, i actually think the so called muslim rulers are the worst of the worst much worse than taliban!
Saudi Regime, Egypt Regime, Libya the list continues they oppress and kill people for decades and then they also muslim but of the worst kind!
First of all, the Taliban were a virtual non-entity before 9/11...Suddenly after 9/11 they were labelled as terrorists and everything about them and close to them had to be hushed hushed and crushed...
The Taliban were portrayed to be religious zealots and intolerant fanatics who killed, maimed and suppressed others...By whom? By the same people that said that the Iraq war was for WMDs, the same people who came up with a fake Osama Bin Laden video, the same people who say that the blackboxes from the 4 planes were charred (A physical impropability) and who later turned the war into a war to remove a tyrant...You are welcome to believe them, I am not...Once bitten twice shy, only fools stumble upon the same obstacle again and again and again...
Independent news sources and agencies have carried out many interviews and documentaries by people who lived under the Taliban...The women who were living under Taliban...They all agreed that the Taliban brought to them the things they had always wanted: Peace, freedom and most important of all, hope.
I can post the links to those websites and news sources unfortunately, anything that has to do with proclaiming the Taliban as having been good is suppressed, thanks to the freedom of expression practiced by the west...Those sites and sources are always taken down...However, I will see if I can still find a few...
I refuse to be a trained puppy to the western media, who one day create an enemy and the make him a friend, wherever the purpose of the government suits best...There are many Pakis here on GS who spout whatever has been fed to them, not out of ignorance, but sheer complacency and convenience of not having to look beyond what can be easily swallowed and fed...Hence the 'Foxmouths', whose every 'independent' thought relies on what needs to propagandized...
Just because the western media makes Taliban out to be monsters doesn;t make them so...Western popular opinion has created many monsters from native Americans to Communists to Vietnamese to Cubans...Today's monster is the Muslim...Learn to see beyond what's being waved in front of your eyes, especially after so many lies that have been shamefully unearthed...Maybe you'll see the truth...If not, then believe what the American media tells you and remain ignorant and in the dark...
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And those things are illegal and those caught who have done such things go to jail ak47, your logic and reasoning is off base.
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Off base? women living in fear of their lives in the US and its called off base i don`t think so, its a reality.
Amerikkans complaining about death sentances when there own judicial systems enforce electrocution, gassing, lethal injection
and god knows how many other forms, smacks of hypocrisy yet again what a surprise not!
What American women are living in fear in America due to governmental polices or action? I suppose female drug dealers and hookers are.
Supporting the death penalty for those that kill in cold blood and speaking against it when it is used against women who are caught teaching children math is not hypercritical. In additional there are those in America who support the U.S. death penalty and there are those against it, as a democracy this is what goes on, polices are constantly reviewed and examined by private and public organizations as well as the government itself.
I suggest you refrain from speaking if you do not know what your saying.
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What American women are living in fear in America due to governmental polices or action? I suppose female drug dealers and hookers are.
Supporting the death penalty for those that kill in cold blood and speaking against it when it is used against women who are caught teaching children math is not hypercritical. In additional there are those in America who support the U.S. death penalty and there are those against it, as a democracy this is what goes on, polices are constantly reviewed and examined by private and public organizations as well as the government itself.
I suggest you refrain from speaking if you do not know what your saying.
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Refrain from speaking, i see so maybe you thinking you are a GI Joe also in ABu grope!
Adultry is illegal in afghanistan by woman or man, results in death penalty
Woman in US are in fear from attack and rape daily backed by figures from your own government, you seem to accept that people being killed in one country for a crime is not good
But in US people being killed for a crime its ok because allegedly its a democracy your argument is clearly hypocritcle and you know it!
The crime doesn't fit the punishment ak47, it’s barbaric. If someone strikes their child because he or she did something wrong and another person shoots their child because he or she did something wrong would it be hypercritical for the person who struck their child to say that shooting the child was wrong? Of course not.
What’s with the rape argument? Do you think rape is just a crime committed in the United States? Women are raped daily throughout the world and in the United States rapists aren’t protected, if a women is raped the person who is accused will be arrested even if there are no 3rd party witnesses to the rape.
Ak47, you seem to be projecting nasty attributes onto the United States rather than onto the real source of the problem.
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The crime doesn't fit the punishment ak47, it’s barbaric. If someone strikes their child because he or she did something wrong and another person shoots their child because he or she did something wrong would it be hypercritical for the person who struck their child to say that shooting the child was wrong? Of course not.
What’s with the rape argument? Do you think rape is just a crime committed in the United States? Women are raped daily throughout the world and in the United States rapists aren’t protected, if a women is raped the person who is accused will be arrested even if there are no 3rd party witnesses to the rape.
Ak47, you seem to be projecting nasty attributes onto the United States rather than onto the real source of the problem.
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ahan for wht u r defending america??? where thousands raped atleast rape rate is still quite low in pak and in most of the asian counrties....accept it now women of american has become symbol of sex and they r decoration pieces to attract their "constumers"...atleast this is not too much spread in muslim countries.....abt taliban,they did few very good things and few pooorrrr but still their government was best in the sence tht they created peace in afganistan and these western media always shouts for taliban poorr atitude with women is not much as poor as presented by media....afghan leaders used to "gift" girls to their guests and other leaders...adultery was spreading and opium and herion and the like were very common...taliban ended all these things...taliban poor atitude came when they banned women education,neva understand y they did tht.......and also their another restriction for beard people was also unislamic...above all taliban for me was the best thingy happened to afghanistan.....many people say blah blah abt taliban but infact they dont no single abt thesepeople...but hey believe on FOX NEWS...hehe.......and abt ridley,although this is quite a old 1 but thanxs to author who posted and remind people abt great taliban BEAHVIOUR with tht GORA WOMAN
Wasn't this war on terror fought with the blessing of God on Bush? So equating the US military as representing their flavour of religion is perfectly valid. I don'ty know what flavour of religion would result in Abu Ghraib though? Do you?
Taliban gave the women hope by shooting them in the head in soccer stadiums.