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**The Honorable Chief Justice of the Lahore High Court - **Mr. Justice Iftikhar Hussain Chaudhry
One does not have to go the government sides claims to read about the CJ’s animosity to the CJ of the LHC. It’s all in Ch.Iftikhar’s own petition.
http://www.paktribune.com/news/index.shtml?176438
I bet he was one of the judges he wanted the agencies to spy on.
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A no from me too.
And a counter question too; Do you consider refusing a civilian aircraft belonging to the national carrier carrying over a 100 civilian men, women and children including foreign nationals as well as the country's serving Army Chief who is undoubtedly a symbol of national pride and sovereignty, being refused landing on Pakistani soil and being diverted to 'anywhere but here, even India' with limited fuel remaining, an act of treason, attempted murder, massacre, genocide?
He had 3 options upon landing; a. Hand over power to BB b. Reconcile with NS, shame the Army already frustrated by NS over Kargil and resign. c. Hang Nawaz. d. Hold elections in 8 weeks. In other words option a again.
Initial decisions were the best. Later some errors can never be ruled out, but overall everyone remembered the sweet taste of mithai for first few years alike.
Nswaz Sharif, as the elected PM of the country, had the right to sack the COAS, but the way he used his authority to sack the army chief was of course not sensible. And what Mushrraf did thenceforth was nothing else but an act of treason, he had no right to topple an elected government just to save his job, not by any manner of means.
People might have distributed sweets but not to welcome an another decade long military dictatorship. They're not as idiot as some people here are adamant to prove.
This is an excerpt from Hassan Abbas's book "Pakistan's drift into extremism":
Yet another 'new era' began in Pakistan on oct 12, 1999. Many in the street danced with joy, and many were those who went into a swoon as the anxiety of the hours preeceding Musharraf's safe landing abated. He was not the most popular man in the country but he had ousted a coterie that had lost credibility with the people.
How many passengers were killed, none. Ho many civilians died when Musharraf allowed his partners in Karachi to show their strength and brawn, more or less 40. Now what would you call it, an act of treason, attempted murder, massacre, genocide?
Both Nawaz and Mushy should be prosecuted in an independent court for their crimes and let the court decide what punishment should be given to them for their crimes.
As far as the Kargil misadventure is concerned, it was a very defective plan and it might have caused a full scale war with India, for which the country was not prepared. You can't conquer what you cannot defend. Army should be happy that Nawaz made himself a scapegoat for the blunder of his generals and saved the country from further humiliation. The only purpose of the whole Kargil operation was to sabotage the peace process with India.
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Some of the objections that the “CJ” has to the 60% of the judges on the Supreme Judicial Council are laughable. For instance his objection to Justice Abdul Hameed Dogar.
He too rushed to administer oath to Mr. Justice Javed Iqbal as Acting Chief Justice and celebrated the occasion even as the Chief Justice of Pakistan (the Petitioner) was still detained in Rawalpindi in the office of the Referring Authority. This was seen by the entire country on the national media. What was there to celebrate?
http://www.paktribune.com/news/index.shtml?176438
Justice Abdul Hameed Dogar was surely one of the judges that the “CJ” wanted the agencies to spy on as well.
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SB, words of wisdom: Read the affidavit. U keep on wondering which judges were spied on. Their names r clearly mentioned in the affidavits in bullet form. U can't miss it. is kashmaksh say niklain.
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"CJ" - the real dictator.
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“CJ’s insistence on appointment of judges of his choice, in complete disregard to the recommendations of other constitutional consultees, created an impasse resulting in a large number of vacant posts in the high courts of Punjab and Balochistan. This adversely affected the working of these courts,” the affidavit said.
The LHC thus remained short of 17 judges and Balochistan of three. A total number of seven appointments to the SHC are also pending with the chief justice.
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CJ launched a campaign of indiscreet character assassination against the following:-
Lahore High Court judges:-
Justice Abdul Shakoor Paracha,
Justice Shabbar Raza Rizvi,
Justice Akhtar Shabbir
Justice Sheikh Abdul Rashid.
Sindh High Court judges:-
Justice Sarmad Jalal Osmany,
Justice Mushir Alam,
Justice Arif Hussain Khilji,
Justice Amir Hani Muslim
Justice Afzal Soomro.
Peshawar High Court judges:-
Justice Shah Jehan Khan,
Justice Ejazul Hassan Khan
Justice Jehanzeb Rahim.
Such a long list of enemies the dictator CJ had made amongst his fellow judges.
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I hear Iftikhar aka Don CJ was once fired from the NBP in Quetta when he was younger, a fresh lawyer many years ago, he was on the legal advisory panel and had some, you know what, corruption scandals. He was silently relieved of his position. This we hear from direct NBP sources.
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Why did Ameer ul Momineen post a corrupt person on such an important position? When he has the IB, ISI and other intelligence agencies under his belt who can provide intelligence of persons who he wants to appoint on important positions. Doesnt that tell us about the "clean politics" of Mr. clean president.
I hear Iftikhar aka Don CJ was once fired from the NBP in Quetta when he was younger, a fresh lawyer many years ago, he was on the legal advisory panel and had some, you know what, corruption scandals. He was silently relieved of his position. This we hear from direct NBP sources.
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first someone came up with Non-Functional Dictator and now Ameer ul Momineen. I like his designations. I wonder if he’ll win any sympathies from the Afghans or FATA pasthuns with this title. After all they were in love with their last ameer ul momineen
Re: CJ wanted to be PM & agencies to supply info on other judges
I hear Iftikhar aka Don CJ was once fired from the NBP in Quetta when he was younger, a fresh lawyer many years ago, he was on the legal advisory panel and had some, you know what, corruption scandals. He was silently relieved of his position. This we hear from direct NBP sources.
quick..alert the authorities. we'll get him good **this **time. he who corrupts in this land of the incorruptibles, ruled by a man of law and divine goodness, must face the consequences.
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Yup, other allegations of corruption and abuse of authority by the “CJ” have been made by people in his “home” province.
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Yup, other allegations of corruption and abuse of authority by the “CJ” have been made by people in his “home” province.
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And the story unflolds…becharay pipliya, nawaziay, jamatiay, mma, alqadiay walay saray ke saray now will be without their dummy god.](“http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default…-5-2007_pg7_25”)
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you will notice these ‘allegations’ are only trumpeted by Mush/MQM supporters, nobody else in Pakistan is even giving it a second thought
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First, perpetual and indiscriminate use of the phrase 'Mush/MQM supporters' is a serious matter of wit, or lack of it. So next time before labeling Mush Support directly proportional to MQM or Altaf Hussain Support, try to think in slightly deeper and mutli-dimensional terms; politics is not a one track game, so grow out of this misconception. Earlier the better, for whoever carries such misconceptions.
Secondly, about the allegations against Iftikhar Chaudhry, and why it seems as if nobody is paying attn to them; a matter of priority or perception may I suggest? Perhaps it's not a big deal if a CJ corrupts? Perhaps when the whole house is a mess, the drawing room can also be used as a bathroom?
But may one ask, if it is so, why aren't people giving it a second thought?
Just because they want to get rid of Mush like kids who get bored of ludo and want to play snakes and ladders through the game, so much so that every criminal, crook, corrupt figure with double standards, even lying and deceiving enemies of yesteryear creating hoax of alliances to fool the public and overpower the govt, are considered better?
If these are the standards that are being used to try and bring change for improvement of Pakistan, then I'm afraid, let it be news that no positive change is coming, atleast not for Pakistan or its people, perhaps just for afew power-hungry figures in waiting. And at the end of the day it's the public to be blamed not the so called leaders, who are supposed to be self centered and corrupt by default throughout the world. The jokes on us if we fail to fathom the depth of things.
Re: CJ wanted to be PM & agencies to supply info on other judges
First, perpetual and indiscriminate use of the phrase 'Mush/MQM supporters' is a serious matter of wit, or lack of it. So next time before labeling Mush Support directly proportional to MQM or Altaf Hussain Support, try to think in slightly deeper and mutli-dimensional terms; politics is not a one track game, so grow out of this misconception. Earlier the better, for whoever carries such misconceptions.
The people on this board who i referred to have also posted in support of the MQM, the link is obvious and appropriate
Re: CJ wanted to be PM & agencies to supply info on other judges
First, perpetual and indiscriminate use of the phrase 'Mush/MQM supporters' is a serious matter of wit, or lack of it. So next time before labeling Mush Support directly proportional to MQM or Altaf Hussain Support, try to think in slightly deeper and mutli-dimensional terms; politics is not a one track game, so grow out of this misconception. Earlier the better, for whoever carries such misconceptions.
Secondly, about the allegations against Iftikhar Chaudhry, and why it seems as if nobody is paying attn to them; a matter of priority or perception may I suggest? Perhaps it's not a big deal if a CJ corrupts? Perhaps when the whole house is a mess, the drawing room can also be used as a bathroom? But may one ask, if it is so, why aren't people giving it a second thought? Just because they want to get rid of Mush like kids who get bored of ludo and want to play snakes and ladders through the game, so much so that every criminal, crook, corrupt figure with double standards, even lying and deceiving enemies of yesteryear creating hoax of alliances to fool the public and overpower the govt, are considered better? If these are the standards that are being used to try and bring change for improvement of Pakistan, then I'm afraid, let it be news that no positive change is coming, atleast not for Pakistan or its people, perhaps just for afew power-hungry figures in waiting. And at the end of the day it's the public to be blamed not the so called leaders, who are supposed to be self centered and corrupt by default throughout the world. The jokes on us if we fail to fathom the depth of things.
Well stated.
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Thanks SB!