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As per post # 37 it can become a matter of life and death if not done.

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I have not read the article yet but for a guy who is 25 and recently converted to Islam, what life threat his uncircumcised organ posed to him that he did not realize before his conversion to islam?

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Never mind , I did not want you to respond. I should have added it in my post that I am not looking for a reply. It was just a jest.

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my son got circumsized and honestly it was quick, i think he was 2 days old...and he slept thru the day. He was fine, it really isnt that big a deal as long as its done right away.

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What you have posted is NOT the Hanafi ruling, below is the correct Hanafi ruling regarding circumcision for adult converts, what you posted was simply ur interpretation of it and if what you wrote was true surely** there would be an explicit ruling say it is haram for an adult man to be circumcised unless he or his wife do it**, not the blanket Hanafi ruling that it’s sunnah:

Circumcision

Answered by Shaykh Abu Usamah

Question:

**What is the Fiqh ruling on circumcision for converts to Islam? Is there a difference of opinion in the Madhabs? Please give some Fazail and Hadith. **

         **Answer:**

Al-Salam alaykum

According to the Hanafi school it is a confirmed sunna (sunna mu’akkada) for circumcision to be performed for a new born [male] as well as a person who accepts Islam .According to other schools it is wajib.(Raddal-Muhtarv.7 p.342 Dar al-Fikr1995)

Rasulullah (sallallahu alayhi wasallam) said: “The practices related to Fitrah (natural human ways) are five: Circumcision, shaving the pubic hair, trimming the moustache, pairing the nails and removing the hair of the armpits.” - Sahih al-Bukhari

Rasulullah (sallallahu alayhi wasallam) said: “Circumcision is Sunnah for men and an honour for women” - Musnad Ahmad, Al-Bayhaqi

Rasulullah (sallallahu alayhi wasallam) also said: **“Whoever accepts Islam should have his circumcision performed.” - Talkhis al-Habir
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In one hadith in Musnad Ahmad the words “get rid of the hair of disbelief and perform circumcision” have been recorded.

The practice of circumcision is one of the salient features (sha`a’ir) of the religion of Islam. It is from amongst those things that Rasulullah(sallallahu alayhi wasallam) encouraged his ummah to follow the way (millah) of Hadrat Ibrahim (alayhis salam) in. Hadrat Ibrahim (alayhis salam) was the first person to be circumcised at the age of 80.(Sahih al-Bukhari and Sahih Muslim)

Besides the above, circumcision also carries numerous physical benefits .It also prevents many illnesses.

Furthermore circumcision is an important aspect of taharah (cleanliness), which is so strongly emphasised in Islam, for when the foreskin is not removed, urine and other secretions can collect under the folded skin. This area can become the site of very painful infections from bacterial growth and the minor operation of circumcision greatly simplifies basic hygiene for men and boys. “Indeed God loves those who turn to Him constantly and He loves those who keep themselves pure” - Qur’an Surah al-Baqarah

Hence it is a greatly meritorious sunnah as well as physically beneficial to perform this act. However it is not a pre-requisite for conversion to Islam.
And Allah Ta`ala Knows Best.

Abu Usamah

Source: http://qa.sunnipath.com/issue_view.asp?HD=1&ID=1376&CATE=3

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I did not make that ruling, I heard it from a scholar. No where in your post it says that how a male adult should have his circumcision done. That is exactly what the ruling I quote talks about.

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^Obviously the ruling would take into account the circumcision would be done by another adult male. It's not like the converts in Prophet Mohammed's (PBUH) time circumcised themselves or had their wives do it lol..The source comes with references.

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Circumcision was part of Arab culture even before Islam, so most of them probably were circumcised already.

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^Regardless of whether or not that was the case it doesn't make sense that** there would be a blanket ruling regarding converts saying it's sunnah, **not a 'don't do it if ur not circumcised already'..There seems to be no mention anywhere at all about it being haram for an uncircumcised male to get the snip from another person..

Rasulullah (sallallahu alayhi wasallam) also said: "Whoever accepts Islam should have his circumcision performed." - Talkhis al-Habir
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**In one hadith in Musnad Ahmad the words "get rid of the hair of disbelief and perform circumcision" have been recorded.

Anyway, at the end of the day it's still sunnah and not obligatory so if guys don't want to do it it's not a huge deal..