CIA torture brutal and ineffective

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Re: CIA torture brutal and ineffective

@queer

no one is claiming the US to be the pinnacle of enlightenment. there is plenty done by the US that is wrong. but guys in the middle east open about their flaws? where? living smug under a monarchy, executing 3rd world countrymen without proper trial as routine procedure, zero history of political awareness, protest or activism, and criticizing a democratic process elsewhere for being imperfect is open?

Well the Saudis are a-holes, but they dont hide it. They are what they are and they dont try to pretend otherwise.

With the US, you have these lofty ideals as espoused by the Constitution, and then you have rectal hydration and water boarding.
And they are so loathsome these people in the CIA and the Bush administration, they still try to cloak their crimes in the Constitution! so much so that they dont even call torture, TORTURE! Because calling it that would mean they are volating not only US law but international law ! which they are!