I’d like to know what muslims think of the christianity. How does the faith appeal to you? Does it seem reasonable or unreasonable? How does the christian religion appeal? Reasonable? Not reasonable?
Do you have any questions? I’d be more than happy to answer them.
I think it's a perfectly reasonable religion. After all, it used to be the Word of Allah (SWT) until you guys started messing with it. I doubt there would be few here, Muslims that is, that have little or no knowledge. I personally have read the King James and the New and Old Testament (RSV version). Whole paragraphs have been shifted while whole chapters have been taken out. Too bad there are so few who follow it correctly otherwise it is a profound religion. Did you know that the Bible strictly forbids the eating of pork? "Though its hoof be cloven, yet it cheweth not the cud. Of them shall ye not eat, they are unclean to you." I don't remember the exact numeration, but is emphasized numerous times throughout. Nice question BTW...
P.S. I don't care too much for your signature though...:)
Christianity is part of the same 'family' of Islam.
The Qur'aan testifies to the previous scriptures including the Injeel(Bible), Torah and Zaboor (Psalms).
We call you People of the Book.
As Lajawab says, we believe the original teachings of Christianity have been corrupted by man and numerous errors occur in the Bible concerning same events with massive differences.
We do not believe Jesus to be God or son of God as for us this becomes Shirk (associating a partner with Allah). The only Unforgivable sin.
The Qur'aan has a whole chapter named after Mary.
The Faith would appeal if Jesus was left to be a Messenger and Islam as you currently know it, did not appear.
The Qur'aan states:
Al-Baqara (The Cow) [2:62]
Those who believe (in the Qur'an), and those who follow the Jewish (scriptures), and the CHRISTIANS and the Sabians,- any who believe in Allah and the Last Day, and work righteousness, shall have their reward with their Lord; on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve.
Al-Ma'idah (The Table Spread) [5:14]
From those, too, who call themselves CHRISTIANS, We did take a covenant, but they forgot a good part of the message that was sent them: so we estranged them, with enmity and hatred between the one and the other, to the day of judgment. And soon will Allah show them what it is they have done.
Al-Ma'idah (The Table Spread) [5:82]
Strongest among men in enmity to the believers wilt thou find the Jews and Pagans; and nearest among them in love to the believers wilt thou find those who say, "We are CHRISTIANS": because amongst these are men devoted to learning and men who have renounced the world, and they are not arrogant.
After talking to many of my religious Christian friends, my views regarding Christianity have evolved. I have had many profound discussions and am grateful for the patience & persistence of most of the people that I talked to. Three basic issues that strike out:
#1. There are some very different thoughts about the concept of God & Him being three in one and different denominations take a very different approach to it. Some don't consider such a basic fundamental question (as per the Muslim belief) to be important, while others go at length to justify it's importance in the bigger frame of doctrine. I have always found most Christians very uncomfortable talking about this issue as if it's a taboo or dogma.
#2. While talking about the virtues of Christianity, the forgiving & loving nature of Jesus (peace be upon him) are always at the fore front. His compassionate sermons about turning the other cheek and loving thy neighbor is something that drives the Christian missionary thought, though it doesn't go very far in practice because I can't go up to a preacher & slap him in the face in front of his congregation & expect him to turn the other cheek. Instead, I will have a law suite at my hands. Just like the teachings of Gandhi, the concepts are very sublime but unpractical in most cases.
#3. As my experience with Christianity has only been in the USA, I have always found a certain racial divide among the churches. Go to a white church and the literature, the icons in the church & pictures in their offices depict Jesus to be a white man, blond hair, blue eyes. Go to a predominantly black church, the eyes turn brown, the hair curly black & the skin color gets tanner.
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*Originally posted by sholay: *
Christianity is part of the same 'family' of Islam.
The Qur'aan testifies to the previous scriptures including the Injeel(Bible), Torah and Zaboor (Psalms).
We call you People of the Book.
As Lajawab says, we believe the original teachings of Christianity have been corrupted by man and numerous errors occur in the Bible concerning same events with massive differences.
We do not believe Jesus to be God or son of God as for us this becomes Shirk (associating a partner with Allah). The only Unforgivable sin.
The Qur'aan has a whole chapter named after Mary.
The Faith would appeal if Jesus was left to be a Messenger and Islam as you currently know it, did not appear.
The Qur'aan states:
Al-Baqara (The Cow) [2:62]
Those who believe (in the Qur'an), and those who follow the Jewish (scriptures), and the CHRISTIANS and the Sabians,- any who believe in Allah and the Last Day, and work righteousness, shall have their reward with their Lord; on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve.
Al-Ma'idah (The Table Spread) [5:14]
From those, too, who call themselves CHRISTIANS, We did take a covenant, but they forgot a good part of the message that was sent them: so we estranged them, with enmity and hatred between the one and the other, to the day of judgment. And soon will Allah show them what it is they have done.
Al-Ma'idah (The Table Spread) [5:82]
Strongest among men in enmity to the believers wilt thou find the Jews and Pagans; and nearest among them in love to the believers wilt thou find those who say, "We are CHRISTIANS": because amongst these are men devoted to learning and men who have renounced the world, and they are not arrogant.
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why saudis dont allow churches to be built or allow even christians
to pray based on what koran says?
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Drizt …
I think Christianity by far is great religion and brother in faith to Islam..
You asked whether or not the Christian religion appealed or not? I’d say it isn’t appealing to me, dont get me wrong im not belittling you ,rather take this as constructive criticism…
A while ago i purchased the King James version and to see so many discrepancies and inaccuarices was very shocking. Which made me seriously doubt it’s reliability..
For example;
*“Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign: Behold, a VIRGIN shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.” *
The indispensable “VIRGIN” in the above verse has now been replaced in the RSV with the phrase “a young woman,” which is the correct translation of the Hebrew word almah. Almah is the word, which has occurred all along in the Hebrew text and NOT bethulah which means VIRGIN.
another example that i was shocked by :
Isaiah 37 and 2 Kings 19 are identical word for word. Yet they have been attributed to two different authors, centuries apart, whom the Christians claim have been inspired by God.
Okay lets also look at Solomon mentioned below
And Solomon had four thousand stalls for horses and chariots, and twelve thousand horsemen; whom he bestowed in the chariot cities, and with the king at Jerusalem.
2 Chronicles 9:25
And Solomon had forty thousand stalls of horses for his chariots, and twelve thousand horsemen.
1 Kings 4:26
is it 4 thousnad or 40,000 … these ver errors suggest that men have manipulated it..that once was a great holy book of God..
Thousands of contradictory verses have led me to believe that this cannot be the word of God…
The greatest reward of course lies with Allah Almighty and i pray He guides us inshallah..
Dai
RVIKZ
Go and ask the Saudis?
the Chrisitan faith does not appeal to me since it embodies many many MANY contraditions and falsehoods, and besides, it isn’t being practiced today 1% of the way it was originally practiced! doesn’t that say something???
Yes, I believe it says the the world has evolved in the past several thousand years and so have the practitioners of Christianity.
seminole, that's all well and good but the basic tenents of a religion must always remain intact, unlike in Christianity.
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seminole, that's all well and good but the basic tenents of a religion must always remain intact, unlike in Christianity.
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And how do you think that happens? By a few dictating and interpreting for the many. By uneducation. Not modernizing. Not thinking. Following rules and customs that were written for sheep herders thousands of years ago. God gave us a brain, I think he intended for us to use it.
The Bible is interpreted differently than it was before, but that is because man has evolved. To say that a book written 2000-5000 years ago can have the exact same meaning to the people of today as it did to the pre-educated socieities of history is illogical.
Seminole
In light of your response, do you then concur that the Bible is manmade!
Be careful how you answer now.
seminole, be careful how you answer.
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Seminole
In light of your response, do you then concur that the Bible is manmade!
Be careful how you answer now.
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let say we get hit by astroids and creation again starts would
the same bible and koran with same words will be reproduced?
i feel bad for Lord Drizzt :( For some reason, all of his threads end up in arguments.
In regards to Drizzt's questions at the beginning of this thread - i agree with AhmadJee's first point in his post, and some of the points made by Dai_Sista and Lajawab.
Many of my friends are Christians (or at least were raised in a Christian household). Not surprisingly, it's FAR easier to get along with each other when both parties engage in mutual levels of respect and tolerance.
RVIKZ
Hypothetically speaking.
Let's say you reverted to Islam.
This is more of a probability than your question.
Please understand my point.
:k: Nadia I love reading your posts in the religion forum. Even though our views differ on WA topics, you always hit the nail on the head with your religous posts.
You are a model for us all with your respect and tolerance of others’ beliefs.
You have no idea how much that means to me.
Thank you so much.
Didn’t one of his threads just disappear altogether? 
Iqbal
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*Originally posted by Seminole: *
*The Bible is interpreted differently than it was before, but that is because man has evolved. To say that a book written 2000-5000 years ago can have the exact same meaning to the people of today as it did to the pre-educated socieities of history is illogical. *
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T.S. Eliot: "Christianity is always adapting itself into something that can be believed."
Iqbal