Christian perspective of End Times

Some interest was indicated in another thread about how Christians see how the end of times will unfold. If ever there is something Christians can argue at length among themselves, then it is all the details as to how the world will come to an end. I will only attemp to do an elementary overview of the discussions.

In Christian theology there exist two major thoughts as to the End Times. In the Bible (Revelation 20) we read about a 1000 year of peace while Jesus Christ rule on Earth. The thought that we now are living during this period, are called “amillennialism” and that it still is to come, “premillennialism”.

Amillennianists hold that the 1000 years is a symbolic number indicating that the believers and Jesus Christ presently rule on Earth and Satan’s power is limited.

Premillenianists hold to the literal value of the 1000 years and say it will only start with the Second Coming of Jesus Christ to Earth.

It basically boil down to some having difficulty in believing prophecy that sound impossible and others believing prophesy should be taken on face value.

In general the End Time prophecies indicate

  1. A return of Jesus Christ to Earth (Second Coming)
  2. An Anti-Christ and corrupt Prophet ruling at the very End-time
  3. A 1000 year reign where Satan’s powers are limited
  4. A final confrontation between Jesus + followers and Satan + his followers
  5. The Final Judgement of all living and dead people
  6. Believers (saved souls) living with Jesus Christ (as King) forever

Rev.20v1-2,4-5,7-9 (The vision that the Apostle John saw)

And I saw an angle coming down out of heaven, having the key to the Abyss and holding in his hand a great chain. He seized the dragon, that ancient serpent, who is the devil, Satan, and bound him for a thousand years…I saw thrones on which were seated those who had been given authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony for Jesus and because of the word of God. They had not worshipped the beast or his image and had not received his mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ a thousand years. (The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended.) This is the first resurrection…When the thousand years are over, Satan will be released from his prison and will go out to deceive the nations in the four corners of the earth - Gog and Magog - to gather them for battle. In number they are like the sand on the seashore. They marched across the breadth of the earth and surrounded the camp of God’s people, the city he loves. But fire came down from heaven and devoured them.

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aww bless u love, thats really interesting. I don’t actually have any personal opinions as i dont know too much about this, but i’l definately look into it.

Thank You :flower1:

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Interesting :slight_smile:

It is very similar to our side of the story, even in our books the place is mentioned where Jesus :as: will kill the anti-christ. Now there is an airport at that area :slight_smile:

I have few questions

  1. What will happen after the end of that period of Jesus(pbuh) second comming. Will he be dead or taken to heaven like earlier ?

  2. Will that period of 1000 years start after the elimination of anti-christ or he will be killed during this period ?

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nice and thanks for sharing but I have a question because in Islamic books it says when Jesus reutrns he will get married and have a kid does it say anything like that in christian books? and also is Jesus not going to slay the anti-christ? because I don't see that mentioned in your post unless I missed it.. thanx

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Please realize that there exist many different viewpoints in Christianity on all isues relative to te End-Times. I will try and give the most widely held ones.

  1. After the 1000 years and the victory over Satan the Final Judgement will take place - see Note 1.

After the judgement all just people will live in a city constructed in heaven and installed on a new earth. God will live among the people - see Note 2.

A lot of Christians wrongly believe they will “go to Heaven” and “live in Heaven”. Many Christians wrongly believe that the present Earth will continue to exist. It is though clear, not just from Revelation but also from the Old Testament, that a new earth and heavens will be the place they will find themselves. Whether God will use an existing earth somewhere else in the universe with heavens/sky looking different from today or create a new universe no-one knows.

Because Christians believe that Jesus is God, we believe that Jesus, as God or his physical likeness, will live and rule this new earth and the just people. The idea is that since God has no real form as we know it in the 3-dimensional world, Jesus will be fulfill this function. (Another reason is that because it clearly is stated that no human can see God Almighty and live.)

  1. The Millennianists hold that the Anti-Christ and his Prophet (being persons) will be thrown into hell before the start of the 1000 years - see Note 3.

Some Christians hold that the Anti-Christ and Prophet are not people but a system/church/religion/etc. and believe they will just be destroyed.

#1 Rev.20v12,15 And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Another book was opened, which is the book of life. The dead was judged according to what they had done as recorded in the books…If anyone’s name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.

#2 Rev.21v1-3 Then I saw a new heaven and new earth, for the first heaven and earth had passed away, and there was no longer any sea. I saw the Holy City, the new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband. And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, “Now the dwelling of God is with men, and he will live with them. They will be his people, and God himself will be with them and be their God. He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away.”

#3 Rev.19v20 But the beast was captured, and with him the false prophet who had performed the miraculous signs on his behalf…The two of them were thrown alive into the fiery lake of burning sulphur.

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From the Bible we understand that there will be no marriages in the afterlive. In fact no more sex, families, etc. Also because Christians believe Jesus to be part of the Triune God, it will be impossible for him to have sexual relations with humans. In fact Jesus taught that Angels can’t have sexual relations because of the way they were made. The Anti-Christ will be captured and thrown into Hell.

Matt.22v23-30 That same day the Sadducees, who say there is no resurrection, cam to him with a question. "Teacher, "they said, “Moses told us that if a man dies without having children, his brother must marry the widow and have children for him. Now there were seven brothers among us. The first one married and died, and since he had no children, he left his wife to his brother. The same thing happened to the second and the third brother, right down to the seventh. Finally, the woman died. Now then, at the resurrection, whose wife will she be of the seven, since all of tem were married to her?” Jesus replied, “You are in error because you do not know the Scriptures or the power of God. At the resurrection people will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels of heaven.”

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oh I see.. thanks for clearing it up

it makes sense now since you believe jesus' return will be in his afterlife.. but another question

if he is a god then how can he have an afterlife? I mean can a god die? please shed some light on this... thanks

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Christians believe that Jesus was “raised” (made alive again) after his death on the cross. Don’t think one can consider him as being in his “afterlife” then because he therefor has not died yet. Jesus raised Lazarus from the dead and he was surely not living in his afterlife on earth before he ultimately died?

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yea that's where I'm confused because if jesus is not in his afterlife then why can he not marry apart from the reason that he can't have sex with humans

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Christians consider Jesus as God (third part of the Almighty God). God certainly won’t marry a human.

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  1. No ‘second coming’ of Jesus - Just another Xtian lie.

  2. Antichrist is USA; Corrupt prophet is Jesus.

3 & 4. Another lie. Jesus IS Satan.

  1. The Final Judgement - Nuke holocaust / natural disasters.

  2. Believers of God’s Prophet (Sollog) survive in safe zones.

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how significant we are as humans? earth formed 4.5 billion B.C. 100,000 B.C.
First modern Homo sapiens according to science.

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Two dominant dates for Biblical Creation exist, about 5500 BC and about 4000 BC

Quick Facts about: Hebrew calendar
(Judaism) the calendar used by the Jews; dates from 3761 BC (the assumed date of the creation of the world); a lunar year of 354 days is adjusted to the solar year by periodic leap yearsHebrew calendar. Most prefer Elul 25 whereas a few prefer Adar 25. These place the sixth day of Creation week, when Adam was created, on the first day of the following month, either Tishri or Nisan, the first month of either the civil or biblical year, respectively. In both cases, the epoch of the modern calendar was called the molad tohu or mean new moon of chaos, because it occurred before Creation. This epoch was Tishri 1, AM 1 or October 7, 3761 BC, the latter being the corresponding tabular date (same daylight period) in the Quick Facts about: proleptic Julian calendar
Quick Summary not found for this subjectproleptic Julian calendar. Thus the majority place the first day of Creation week on September 25, 3760 BC, while a minority place it on March 29, 3760 BC, both in the proleptic Julian calendar

According to Hindu scripture, the universe undergoes endless cycles of creation, existence in four Quick Facts about: yuga
Quick Summary not found for this subjectyugas (ages) totalling exactly 4,320,000 years, and dissolution. The current universe is believed to have been created around the 3889th millennium BC and is expected to dissolve during the 431st millennium AD.

http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/encyclopedia/D/Da/Dating_Creation.htm

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Wrong. Earth and the Universe were formed 13.7 billion years ago.

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i wont dispute about any numbers in billion years.

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Earth formed much later than the initial creation of the universe. ~4.5 billion years is the current understanding of the age of the earth.

Old Man,

How much of this do you think has happened already?

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Thap, if you refer to the 6 points I listed, all still need to happen. I do though (same as all Christians through the years) believe that the End Times is imminent.

(Don’t know how the origen of universe has any bearing to this thread)

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Revelation Chapter 22;12

Behold I am coming soon. I bring with me the recompense I will give each according to his deeds. I am the Alpha, and the Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end.

I think most could agree with ^ truth.

People speculating on endtimes is only fearful people making speculations.

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Not really, AAG.

Revelation in most part is written to help Christians prepare/understand the endtimes and is the only book in the Bible which has a blessing attached to the reading thereoff (Rev.1v3). Surely all the prophecies from prophets, Jesus, and Apostles referring to the endtimes is meant for mankind to take note off?

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Old man,

Much of this could have happened already no?
Corruption of leaders and 1000 years of satan's limited power is all relative isn't it? How do we know this wasn't the last 1000 years? Hitler was nasty but then again so was attilla and thousands like him going back to the dawn of man.