there is some people in europe who thinks that muslims hate christians.is it true or not?how u think who i christians?does all europe is christians?
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Well there are all sort of people around the globe who can love and hate other religion. Christians are from the Abrahamic traditions. They believe in One GOD and Jesus to be the son of the GOD. They associate Prophet Jesus to be the son of GOD born from virgin Marry.
No, christians are not the ONLY one living in Europe.
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there are very good christians like mother tresa and good catholics
Most "Christians" today are NOT really christians, they are only people born with christian names. specially in Europe.
There are also bad christians like pat robertson and the evangelical nuts.
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whz do u admire china
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well, come on, I'm a Catholic married to a Pakistani Muslim, have Muslim children and could even be the most sympathtic American person you could possibly meet and still have been called every slur under the sun here. Slut, kaffir (sp?), been told that I am damned, not going to heaven, elitist (though that's not religious) - you name it, there it is. At times, even I wonder. Why is it so confusing that a people that you outwardly denegrate think you don't like them?
It shouldn't be all that surprising.
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All religions basically teach followers to do good deeds. Why should a person only follow Islam? Can he not follow any of the religions?
** Question**
*** All religions basically teach followers to do good deeds. Why should a person only follow Islam? Can he not follow any of the religions?
** Answer**
** 1. Major difference between Islam and most other religions**
All religions basically exhort mankind to be righteous and eschew evil. But Islam goes beyond that. It guides us towards practical ways of achieving righteousness and eliminating evil from our individual and collective lives. Islam takes into account human nature and the complexities of human society. Islam is guidance from the Creator Himself. Therefore, Islam is also called the Deen-ul-Fitrah (the natural religion of Man).
** 2. Example - Islam commands us to shun robbery and also prescribes method of eleminating robbery
**
a. Islam prescribes method of eliminating robbery
All major religions teach that theft is an evil act. Islam teaches the same. So what is the difference between Islam and the other religions? The difference lies in the fact that Islam, besides teaching that robbing is evil, shows a practical way of creating a social structure in which people will not rob.
** b. Islam prescribes Zakaat**
Islam prescribes a system of Zakaat (obligatory annual charity). Islamic law prescribes that every person who has a saving that exceeds the nisaab level i.e. more than 85 grams of gold, should give 2.5% of that saving every lunar year in charity. If every rich person in the world gave Zakaat sincerely, poverty will be eradicated from this world. Not a single human being would die of hunger.
** c. Chopping off the hands as punishment for robbery**
Islam prescribes chopping off the hands of the convicted robber. The Glorious Qur’an says in Surah Maidah:
"As to the thief, male or female, cut off his or her hands:a punishment by way
of example, from Allah, for their crime: and Allah is Exalted in power, full of wisdom." Al-Qur’an 5:38]
The non-Muslim may say, "Chopping off the hands in this 20th century. Islam is a barbaric and ruthless religion!"
** d. Results achieved when Islamic Shariah Implemented**
America is supposed to be one of the most advanced countries in the world. Unfortunately it also has one of the highest rates of crime, theft, and robbery. Suppose the Islamic shariah is implemented in America i.e. every rich person gives Zakaat ( 2.5% of his savings in charity above 85 grams of gold every lunar year), and every convicted robber has his or her hands chopped off as a punishment. Will the rate of theft and robbery in America increase, remain same or decrease? Naturally it will decrease. Moreover the existence of such a stringent law would discourage many a potential robber.
I agree that the amount of theft that takes place in the world today is so tremendous that if you chop off the hands of all the thieves, there will be tens of thousands of people whose hands will be chopped off. The point here is that the moment you implement this law the rate of theft will decline immediately. The potential robber would give it a serious thought before jeopardizing his limbs. The mere thought of the punishment itself will discourage majority of the robbers. There will barely be a few who would rob. Hence only a few person’s hands would be chopped off but millions would live peacefully without fear of being robbed.
Islamic Shariah is therefore practical, and achieves results.
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3. Example: Islam prohibits the molestation and rape of women. It enjoins hijaab and prescribes capital punishment for a convicted rapist.
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*** 1. Islam prescribes method of eliminating molestation and rape***
All the major religions declare the molestation and rape of women as grave sins. Islam teaches the same. What then is the difference between Islam and the other religions? The difference lies in the fact that Islam does not merely preach respect for women, or abhor molestation and rape as serious crimes, but also gives clear guidance as to how society can eliminate such crimes.
*** 2. Hijaab for men***
Islam has a system of hijaab. The Glorious Qur’an first mentions hijaab for the men and then for the women. Hijaab for the men is mentioned in the following verse:
"Say to the believing men that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty: that will make for greater purity for them: and Allah is well acquainted with all that they do." [Al-Qur’an 24:30]
The moment a man looks at a woman and if any brazen or unashamed thought comes to his mind, he should lower his gaze.
*** 3. Hijaab for women***
Hijaab for women is mentioned in the following verse:
"And say to the believing women that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty; that they should not display their beauty and ornaments except what (must ordinarily) appear thereof; that they should draw their veils over their bosoms and not display their beauty except to their husbands, their fathers, their husbands’ fathers, their sons...." [Al-Qur’an 24:31]
The extent of hijaab for a woman is that her complete body should be covered. The only part that can be seen, are the face and the hands up to the wrists. If they wish to cover, they can even cover these parts of the body. However some Islamic scholars insist that even the face should be covered.
*** 4. Hijaab prevents molestation
The reason why Allah has prescribed Hijaab for the women is given in the Qur’an in the folowing verse of Surah Al-Ahzab:
"O Prophet! Tell thy wives and daughters, and the believing women,that they should cast their outer garments over their persons (when abroad): that is most convenient, that they should be known (as such) and not molested. And Allah is Oft-Forgiving, most Merciful." [Al-Qur’an 33:59]
The Qur’an says that Hijaab has been prescribed for the women so that they are recognized as modest women this would prevent them from being molested.
- Example of twin sisters***
Suppose two sisters who are twins and who are equally beautiful, walk down a street. One of them is wearing the Islamic Hijaab i.e. the complete body is covered except for the face and the hands up to the wrists, and the other twin is wearing a mini skirt or shorts. Around the corner there is a hooligan who is waiting for an opportunity to tease a girl. Who will he tease? The girl wearing the Islamic Hijaab or the girl wearing the mini skirt or shorts? Dresses that expose more than they conceal, are an indirect temptation to the opposite sex for teasing, molestation and rape. The Qur’an rightly says that the hijaab prevents women from being molested.
*** 6. Capital punishment for rapist***
The Islamic shariah prescribes capital punishment for a convicted rapist. The non-Muslim may be horrified at such a stringent punishment in this age. Many accuse Islam of being ruthless and barbaric. I have asked a common question to hundreds of non-Muslim men. Suppose God-forbid, some one rapes your wife, your mother or your sister and you are made the judge. The rapist is brought in front of you. What punishment would you give him? All of them said, "we would put him to death." Some went to the extent of saying, "we would torture him to death", If your wife or your mother is raped you want the rapist to be put to death. But if someone else’s wife or mother is raped, capital punishment is a barbaric law. Why the double standards?
- U.S.A. has one of the highest rate of Rape***
The United States of America is supposed to be one of the most advanced countries of the world. An F.B.I report in the year 1990 says that 1,02,555 cases of rape were reported. It further says that only 16% of the cases of rapes are reported. Thus, in order to know the actual number of rapes that took place in 1990, the reported figure should be multiplied by 6.25. We get a total of 6,40,968 rape cases that took place in the year 1990. If the total is divided by 365 the number of days in a year, we get an average of 1,756 rape incidents everyday.
Later another report said that an average of 1900 cases of rape are committed in U.S.A every day. According to National Crime Victimization Survey Bureau of Justice Statistics (U. S. Dept. of Justice) in 1996 alone 3,07,000 cases of rape were reported. Only 31% of the actual cases of rape were reported. Thus, 3,07,000 X 3.226 = 9,90,322 rapes took place in 1996. That is, an average of 2,713 cases of rape took place everyday in America in 1996. Every 32 seconds one rape is taking place in America. Maybe American rapists got bolder. The FBI report of 1990 continues and says that out of the rape cases that were reported only 10% of the rapist were arrested, that is only 1.6% of the actual rapes committed. Out of those arrested, 50% were let free before the trial. This would mean that only 0.8% of the rapists faced a trial. In other words if a person commits 125 rapes the chances that he will get a punishment for rape is only once. Many would consider this a good gamble. And the report says that of those people who faced trial 50% received sentences of less than a year’s imprisonment though the American law says rape carries a seven year sentence of imprisonment. For a rapist, the judge is lenient to first time offenders. Imagine a person commits 125 rapes and the chances of being convicted is only once, and 50% of the time the judge will grant leniency and give a sentence of less than a year!
- Results achieved when Islamic Shariah Implemented Suppose the Islamic shariah is implemented in America. Whenever a man looks at a woman and if any brazen or unashamed thought comes to his mind, he lowers his gaze. Every woman wears the Islamic Hijaab, that is the complete body is covered except the face and the hands upto the wrists. After this if any man commits rape, he gets capital punishment. The question is, will the rate of rape in America increase, will it remain the same or will it decrease? Naturally it will decrease. Islamic Shariah gets results.
*** 4. Islam has Practical Solutions for the Problems of Mankind***
Islam is the best way of life because its teachings are not doctrinaire rhetoric but practical solutions for the problems of mankind. Islam achieves results both at the individual and collective levels. Islam is the best way of life because it is a practical, universal religion not confined to any ethnic group or nationality.
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I didn’t knew you were catholic.
I really like and respect Catholics. Anyway, ignore the nuts who may bash you.
there are nuts on every forum
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Catholics and Orthodox Eastern church are cool..{edited}
Note: Please be careful while writing about people of other faiths.
We don’t have extra time or patience to tolerate such practice for a long time.
Please read rules of religion forum, if you have no clue about what is allowed and what is not !
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OMG - I think you missed the point of the thread, but thanks :) proves a point.
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OMG - please just provide the link, its pointless to copy paste the same article in every single thread on the forum. Thanks. :)
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Christians are infidels...period end. {edited: } They need to be enlightened with the swords of the Muslim and the cross of the Jews.
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Thank you Kaleem :) now again, do you wonder why?
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My nuns were kewl. Christian womanhood, first thign we learned: origin of the F word. My kinda nun :k:
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Every thief, every rapist, every murderer, in all parts of the world, know that they would be punished if they are caught. The punishment could even go beyond a chopped hand, it could be one's life. But stringent punishment in itself has never been able to stop crime anywhere in the world. Theoretically, the chances of somebody repenting because of love or a kind word or deed in return for a criminal deed are higher than because of a punishment.
Think about your personal lives. It is very likely that you have felt bad because a small mistake you committed elicited a kind word or an immediate forgiveness rather than a tit-for-tat.
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ī think muslims are great.all rulles is very good...but do u realy believe with all ur heart that u ll go 2 heaven????
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You can read the thread “Why do they hate us?” There are some nice enlightning posts there:
http://www.paklinks.com/gs/showthread.php?p=3323548#post3323548
It’s true some people in Europe hate muslims, but it is **not **the majority. It is not written is someone’s face wether it is christians, muslim, jew, atheist…that’s why jews had to wear a yellow star during WWII, sadly.
so you can’t know one’s religious belief (except from women in hijab, people wearing a cross or men with kippa) before a little, sometimes very long, friendship. Anyway does that matter so much? I mean, treat everyone with respect and be polite, that’s the best way to prevent others to hate you, and your religion…
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the concept of trinity, the christian religion and the numerous new editions of the bible are all made up
jesus was a jew who preached judaism... and not once does it mention trinity or christianity in the original bible
now don't hate... because I'm just stating the facts
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Khatmal - seriously, what if I said all of the Quran was made up by a man who just wanted attention and power? Why do you believe by saying that it doesn't fall under the guise of attacking a faith?
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khatmal uncle, there are many such "facts" on your beloved prophet when stated by non-muslims give people like you a fiery diarrhea of rage. why is it that muslims are always out dissing others beliefs and ready to kill when the same treatment is given to them?
edit: minah beat me to it
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there is no facts that can prove anything wrong about Islam or the Quran or the Prophet... all three are perfect
all the bs that people come out with against the three is just that... bs
and minah_pa I never said the bible was not real... but the new editions of it are made up
and when you can prove me wrong about the other two points... we shall discuss any misconceptions you might have about the Quran