Chivalry

This topic makes me ponder over few points;

*Is Chivalry Dead?

*Does it even matter in todays time?

*Do you believe there is a thin line between being chivalrious and being daunting?

I believe we still have quite a few chivalrious men at this part of the world however they are getting fewer with time. And there are absolutely so many factors for this change. According to me some of those factors r;

  1. Is she worth it? Nowadays nobody is willing to be a bigger, better person by giving nice treatment to anyone n everyone regardless of whether they get a negative or positive response.

  2. Will it be taken just like a chivalrious act or will people put two n two together n make something out of it. You know what i mean.

  3. And ofcourse the whole concept of being treated as equals. It’s like if you can go out and work late nite, i m sure u r also capable of opening the door for yrself.. That kinda think?!.

  4. Women not being very appreciative of it. It’s like thank you but i think i can manage to drive myself alone to home just fine even past midnite, you don’t need to accompany me i’m a grown up. LOL. Or why shud i let u pay for dinner after all i earn to and i can afford my food. Etc, etc.

…and i am sure there are many more.

What are your thoughts?

And to answer my own 3 pointers, i think..

  • It’s NOT dead, its just been pushed down by the independence fever :stuck_out_tongue:

  • Ofcourse it does. Times change, peopel change but values don’t.

  • I don’t think there is but wrong understanding of things build up that line. Otherwise i think any sane person can tell one from another.

Please share your views :slight_smile:

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Yes it is dead. Feminism killed it.

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:lifey:

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I think its def. not dead...just maybe on life support...

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Its not dead.... but getting more rare to find......

It does matter today..... to those guys that are "chivalrous" and to those girls that appreciate it. It doesn't matter to others.

I'v personally never had the experience of chivalry being "daunting"....

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Feminism fever has surely put the dampers on chivalry. But I am raising my boys to be chivalrous no matter what - even if its resented by the bra-burners. Polite behavior should be graciously accepted no matter who you are and no matter what the cultural boundaries are. If someone chooses to resent an act of chivalry then its their loss and their "chip-on-the shoulder" rudeness. Just because some women have "that" envy, my boys will not alter their ways.

I worked my arse off on wall st. and never expected to receive more or less than my male counterparts and never loudly yelled "I am WO-MAN". Equal pay for equal work. Yet, men should be expected to act with chivalry (IMO, in my opinion) and it should NOT be a big deal, it should just be a way of life and a matter of routine. Yet, the way things ARE is that chivalry is rare and truly appreciated (by most) and I am always impressed when I see it. A chivalrous man is a man of quality.

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Déjà vu CM

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okay ladies a question, WHAT DOES CHIVALRY mean? :konfused:

Today, the terms chivalry and chivalrous are often used to describe courteous behavior, especially that of men towards women.

forget about being chivalrous, nowadays men don't even know the word

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Exactly we don't know the word. Why? Because if we offer to pay for dinner we get attitude along the lines of I earn my own money I can pay for myself. A kind gesture = abuse to the face.

Open the door and get an eye roll for your efforts. Offer to walk a lady home and she assumes you want to come up for breakfast.

Its frankly not worth it. You women killed it. Good job.

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I dunno man. Some times if a woman lets a guy pay for dinner, they can call her a freeloader or gold digger. U know. it goes both ways. If a man pays for dinner, the woman feels "obligated"...tho any guy who does make her feel obligated to "pay him back" is a sleazeball to begin with.

Im happy when someone opens the door for me, and I hold doors open whether its a man or woman.

Gentlemen** do** exist. You just gotta have the eye!

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:hmmm:

well i do agree with CM some what, partially girls are the reason and partially the society has become materialistic, so guys instead of being “chivalrous” just give gifts and think that should be enough.

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See back in the day when men were Chivalrous, women didn't have such an attitude that they had to feel obligated or they worried about their image of being a modern independent woman.

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o if only we could go back to those days..................

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I would be damn happy. In those days the woman stayed in the damn kitchen or the bedroom.

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if you look hard enough i think some of those women are still lounging around somewhere

I hope it was just a nasty joke! Kindly refrain from making such absure remarks as i dnt want my precious topic to turn into a battle ground for war of sexes.

So where did women like Fatima Jinnah emerge from?

The era doesn't make you who you are.

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Woman do a GS search. Subject matter already discussed.