China is NOT our friend

[Southie]

Re: China is NOT our friend

@Sady

@Southie Read in Blue

So in your mind, you equate Secular people being against religion based laws to secular people being in favor of banning religion?

I was not ‘equating’ secularism with banning religion. That is what you understood as me as. As a Pakistani, I was saying that PAKISTAN does not need to adopt secularism (where sovereignty does not belong to God but state) or ban religion all together like China but educate the JAHIL muslims. Hope you understand now.

Because in your earlier post, you stated as such.

No faith as in RUNNING GOVERNMENTS which is same as secularism as in secularism, the state laws are man-made and sovereignty belongs to the people running the state. The system is already there but in future the people running state will be direct slaves/agents of satan/dajjal. Because secularism will allow satan to rule over the people even if they do not want to. Let me know if Im still not clear so I’ll clarify it further.

And now you have ignored the rest of my post that explained secular people support freedom of EVERY citizen to practice his faith. Or no faith at all.

I did not IGNORE your post but I carefully read it. I quoted the part of the post which was relevant (I usually like to quote only the part of the post of someone to which I am responding to simplify it for the readers. It does not mean I have ignored the rest of their post) in my comparison of secularism VS Islamic laws in running a state to emphasize why secularism is not good for an Islamic state. It is because as per Islam, the power of the world belongs to God almighty and no other entity in the universe. If I did not quote you does not mean I have ignored it.

Would you agree that your definition of secularism was INCORRECT? And would you, in all honesty, accept that the definition I gave is the correct one?

***I did not define secularism in my posts except saying that it rejects sovereignty of one God to run the state making way for any other entity to claim sovereignty. So considering that secularism also aids to dajjalic system to rule over the people of the world and enslave them. That is what Im saying. I did not ‘define’ secularism as I am not representing the same. You are. So, you can define it. I was comparing it VS banning religion and VS Islamic law in terms of running a state.

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It is a simple and direct question.

Hope I have simplified by explanation enough for your understanding.

Yes. I understand your explanation. Since you didn’t ask whether I agreed with it, I won’t say I disagree.