children education

I think that either private school are good for children or Islamic.But i don’t know right now my daughter is in public school but i don’t feel comfortable.May be when she will be in 3rd grade i’ll put her in private or islamic school.
I have to think about it but i don’t know because in AZ schools’s ratings are not that good even i moved to Scottsdale but i am not contented with the public schooling.
SO i want to know the public idea what they think about private schools or islamic schools.Girls or boys who are raised here in public schools what they find most difficult things.
Please feel free to share ur ideas and experiences.

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Depends on the parents. In your case you are considering Islamic School which I would probably never consider for my child (when I get married...) but I guess private schools are better for educational purposes than public but I prefer public schools. Depends though, if the public school sucks...

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I've grown up in the US and went to secular schools all the way through (KG-6th was public, 7-12 private girls school). My parents took us to an Islamic school on Sundays. After completing the Islamic school courses when I was in 10th grade, I started helping out in the kindergarten classrooms in the Islamic school.

I think it's important to be able to function in a diverse environment, and I think I would send my children to a good, secular school, particularly because most Islamic schools are not academically established yet.

That being said, I currently teach at a Jewish school, and I see how meaningful it is for my students to have a supportive environment that addresses their religious, cultural, and spiritual needs and creates a sense of community. The school is also very academically and intellectually intense. I think I might consider an Islamic school if it was comparable to what I teach at currently, but I'm not sure.

Learning to communicate with and work with those who are different from ourselves is an absolutely essential skill. I don't want my children growing up in a homogenous environment. Plus, I really feel that hatred develops from fear, and fear develops from ignorance or something we don't know/understand. I want my children to be exposed to different types of people for their own growth and development.

And there's nothing wrong with being a minority. I feel it's helped me become someone I am proud to be. I have determined for myself who I am because I couldn't simply blend in. I became comfortable with being unique.

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Unfortunately most of the Islamic schools in my area lack quality education in terms of math, science etc. However, they provide a very good Islamic education and they give childen a sense of belonging. Parents have to weigh the pros and cons of both educational systems and ask themselves what is more important to them....a good quality education or an islamic education?

Personally, I would choose the school that provides the best quality education for my child because you can always give your child a good (if not better) Islamic education right at home.

Also..keep in mind ...we live in America which is known to be rich in culture and diversity. You cant shelter your child from the real world by putting them into an Islamic school (ive seen many parents do this)...they will have to face the real world someday and you dont want to give them a culture shock. That shock can in turn keep them further away from Islam rather then close.

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Well i agree with the point that islamic schools lack in Maths and Science and other educational stuff.But the thing i am worried about is junior high.I think thats the worst age of tenagers they don't understand themselves and they are growing ,they have problems.Thats why i was thinking of my children to put them in islamic school for about 3 years .But i don't know what to do.
Well private schools are good and public are good too in some districts their are some good schools.
Thanx for everyhting its opening my mind.

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I don't know about other states but now in Southern California, the standard of Islamic Schools is excellent. I have seen their books - they can compete with any other school in US. The teachers are also qualified.
Other than Islamic Studies, they really don't care if the teacher is Muslim or not as long as they are qualified. But ofcourse the teachers have to follow the certain rules.
The New Horizon School System is one of the best here. I've met the students and am impressed.

As far as public shcools are concerned, you really have to search and then move to a good district. It all depends where you're living. Some districts have really disciplined public schools.

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I don’t see how an Islamic school will shelter the children from the pains and dramas of adolescence.

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at least they will tell children not to have boyfriends or girl friends and they will not havee that kind of atmosphere where girls will be making out with boys.I know that in public schools todays girls age from 12 -16 they are like making out with boys.

CB...where i am living right now is really best district in AZ state.

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i think that if you do intend to put your children in islamic school, then do so from a young age. that's when their core foundation is established, and taking them from a public school system and placing them in an islamic one is just going to make them rebel more.

and why are you thinking of putting the children in islamic school for only 3 years?
and after the three years are up, then what?

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i may be generalizing here, but you need to go and check out islamic schools.
sure, they don’t encourage girls and boys to mingle freely, but it’s still all there in the background
:cb:

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Actually iam not convinced about islamic school yet and i want public opinions and they are going in my favor.
Only for three years because when hard part is gone then they are sensible enough to decide between wrong and right.
Idon't want to put my children in islamic schools from kinder gartin because the desi children specially arabs are ill mannered and they behave very bad.I don't like their attitude.

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yeah there have been massive scandals with atleast one major islamic school in Chicago area.

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putting your children in an islamic school during the junior high years, and then pulling them out - i don't understand your logic behind it. wanna explain it a bit further?
and trust me, junior high is nothing compared to all the stuff that goes on in high school. in my opinion, giving them three years in an islaimc school is not going to go a long way in helping them decide between right and wrong. if you don't make an effort yourself, from day one, to teach them that, then no islamic school, however reglious it may be, can do that.

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Idon't want to put my children in islamic schools from kinder gartin because the desi children specially arabs are ill mannered and they behave very bad.I don't like their attitude.
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first off, arab children are not desi :p
secondly, it's not true that all arab children behave badly. desi children are as equally capable of acting bad :D

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Well, there might be such Islamic Schools but in California, we surely have some really good standard Islamic Schools in every way. Ofcourse, the sports part is not as great (even though, they have play grrounds and facilities) because they need time to arrange Islamic classes too.
Its really hard to get admission now because everyone wants to send their kids

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Here, you're generalizing. I mean exceptions are always there.
Desi kids aren't that great either. I have seen both Arab and desi batameez kids.
so don't make your decision based on that. I have seen really well-mannered Arab kids too

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MAy be their are some but i didn't see any.They all are badtameez.

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I am thinking not decided yet that In 11 and 12 grades children are big enough to decide between right and wrong.but when they are teenagers they can go in any direction.We need to be very careful while raising them.And ofcourse i will try my best to tell them everything about our religion.

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Just beware that there are no guarantees. We can't control everything that happens to our children, regardless of how much we try to shelter and control their environment. I've seen many examples of parents who didn't seem to do anything wrong, but their children "went astray."

Have some faith in God and your own children, do what you can for them, but do not assume that an Islamic school will guarrantee and Islamic mindset.

At the same time, remember that people make mistakes, especially in their youth, but can also learn from them. Even if your child does not follow a straight and narrow path, s/he can still make you proud.

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thanx sarah yeah i need to have faith in ALLAH.but i don't know when it comes to our children everything seems very hard how to raise them how to tell them to behave.

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My son and daughter are in a public school in a junior high, and Islamic school on Sundays. We live in the midwest in a conservative area, so it may be a bit different, but we have had no problems so far. Keep your children active in sports and other activities besides academics. Aside from the obvious health benefits, my children choose to take care of their bodies, which will insh'Allah make drugs or alcohol a non-issue.

The most important thing no matter where your children go to school is to KNOW THEIR FRIENDS AND THEIR FRIENDS PARENTS, and I mean on a personal level. When my kids were in elementary I scheduled regular playdates and volunteered for everything I could. I am still on the PTA at both the elementary and If you don't want your child socializing outside of the house, then make sure that your home is welcoming for your child's friends. Host movie night, get table tennis or a foosball set for the basement, and so on. If your children's friends feel welcomed in your home, they will all want to spend time there, which makes it a lot easier to keep an eye on them. ;)

I don't believe in isolating or sheltering our children. They know their limits, and so do others. They have never hidden the fact that they are muslims, and usually have a few friends who fast with them during Ramadan, at least for a few days. I've learned that teachers are almost always willing to work with you at times when you feel uncomfortable, like Christmas. They would also love for you to come in and share your holiday traditions. (note: middle school age kids prefer to share their own tradition:))