children and threading

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I didn’t wax or thread anything until I was in my 20’s but I also had very light facial hair…so nothing showed. I was 22 when I threaded my brows for the first time.

My younger sister, however, threaded at the age of 13 because her brows and upper lip hair grows much faster and thicker. In 7th grade, it was quite noticeable. My mom let her do only the brows (the area between the eyebrows) and her upper lip. Kids can be cruel and sometimes this teasing can hinder confidence in your most formative years. Children have enough to be self conscious about…upper lip hair should not be one of those things.

I am not a parent but I would not be okay with my kid being teased about her upper lip hair. Its a very small thing…its not like you’re letting her shave/wax her entire body.

I used to own a salon and a lot of my desi customers were moms who brought their daughters in for the upper lip wax/thread. It was always just that small area and nothing else but it helped them feel normal I guess. I never had a child come in for anything aside from upper lip wax and occasionally brow grooming. Most moms only wanted to have the hair between the brows cleaned.

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Ok it wasn’t your child I just re read and missed it first time. Hope all young girls dealing with these problems can overcome them and come out the other end stronger and more beautiful both inside and out inshAllah. I have always taught my children that they must NEVER absolutely NEVER EVER put anyone down for any reason be it looks what they have or don’t have. Parents should teach these things to their children so we don’t have bullies but everyone comes from different backgrounds and different parenting methods.

I just spoke to my daughter and asked her if she can wait it out a bit more but she is certain she wants this addressing now and I don’t want her to go through any more name calling. I had my so called friends say things to me at school but my time was different and my relation with my mum was different and I didn’t feel I could tell mum this so just put up with it but it wasn’t too bad with the names just the odd silly *****y girl would say it.
Alhamdulillah that my daughter does come to me for any problem and I always want to keep that doorway open for her and never brush her off no matter what her concern.

It is a big thing though for me as I only let her have her ears pierced last year on her birthday lol

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Thank you for reply Reha and Muzna, it helps to read other peoples views and experiences on similar things.
I was just thinking , when she does have the hair removed how best to deal with the girls who will notice “oh look she got it removed!” .you deal with one problem then another awaits you. Just tell them yes I had it taken off?

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hmm…good point…one thing does lead to another.
let me ask her if she faced this and what happened…I’ll come back and post tomorrow.

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OP, none of my classmates said anything to me, but I was conscious of my upper lip when I was 13 and knew I wanted it gone. I threaded my upper lip at 13, and eyebrows at 15/16. So I think it’s perfectly okay to do upper lip threading at this age when she’s coming to your herself and seeing this as a self image issue. I’d suggest you get it done on a Friday/long weekend so she has a couple of days to get used to it herself before she goes back to school. The girls in school may comment, but I think they’ll get over it fairly quickly.

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Threading is very painful, I would bleach it, don’t use jolen, Boot have one which is great for sensitive skin, not sure where u r based

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Personally, i do not like young girls (less than 16-17) getting their facial hair removed. I think parents should teach their kids tat his is how we were born and that a physical appearance should not bother our daily activities..and parents should teach the kids to ignore the bullies. i needed the kids should make fun of the bullies on a different topic and that would end the bully for good.

i had the same issue when i was young. my father was strictly against me removing my moustache and eyebrows until my 18th birthday. I build so much confidence these years. i use to either laugh with the bullies or make fun of them (if they were extremely mean). today, i do not wear makeup just to cover up my imperfections. I have bad acne this year and i walk makeup free. it doesn’t bother me. I still feel so grateful to be how i am as i know i could have been worst..disfigured..albinos..and what not.

My dad always used the example of his albinos cousin who was very successful banker…he would tell me..look at him…he never stopped despite all the laughs and mockeries of his two toned skin colour.

kids need more confidence boost these days. parents should tell them physical appearance isn’t the priority and the bullies are the wrong ones ..so why change ourselves for the ones that are wrong?

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I do see your point and I was always with the view that these things can wait till the child is at least 16 these days. I called the beautician yesterday who is also a good friend of mine to ask for advice as to what method is best. She told me that I should have gone to her at the first instance my daughter me( that was age 10 and i would surely enot have thought to do anything then). She also said how she sees young girls all the time who ar facing this issue and mothers should not let the child suffer at school as it affects their confidence etc.

I have given this much thought and also spoken to my hubby and we agreed it is probably the best thing to do at this time so she doesn’t grow up complexed. I understand we should teach our children to accept who we are and that is how we were created but unfortunately other people don’t see it that way.

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I guess another way to see it as a lesson in grooming. We don’t want to change for other people but since she’s in her teens now its not a bad idea to learn a few things about proper grooming and how to take care of yourself.

In any case, its good that you understand her and she can talk to you about these things :slight_smile:

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My daughter uses mild bleaching creams and I make wax at home, for her legs. Females during gym class will harrass you here, if you have hair on your legs or if you have some hair on the upper lip. My daughter received some nasty comments about that, so it mattered a lot to her when she was younger.

Now she’s 17 and has a different attitude: she removes less hair and less frequently, she only bleaches a little and some times, only if she feels like doing it for herself, she will remove her leg hair. She doesn’t do it for others anymore. She has quite visible arm hair too and nowadays she doesn’t care about it. If her sleeves are a bit higher, it doesn’t bother her and she doesn’t bleach/wax her arms for months, if she doesn’t feel like it. Same goes for hair on her upper lip. I’m very proud of her new attitude. It didn’t come overnight of course and she had to go through different ages and phases before finally realising it doesn’t matter that much.

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I respect your opinion and am glad that the method worked for you however, I will not be teaching my kid to “bully back” or to laugh off something that truly hurts her inside if there is a means to correct/avoid it. The consequences of both bullying back and living with facial hair are far greater on the psyche than simply remedying it with bleaches and removal.

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I think it depends on the situation. Each situation is different. Sometimes nothing helps against the bullies. Only way to shut them up is either ignore them or make them see how ridicilous they are with their bullying and humiliating you, while they are not perfect themselves.

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PReading all the comments here tells me I’m going to get bashed but here goes. I have two friends who swear by giving their infant babies a wax (the equivalent of donig weeks of the “loee” aata thing that ppl do on babies faces in Pakistan to get rid of hair on the forehead cheeks upper lip etc.). Two of them r relatives on my husbands side of the family.
One relative had a hairy baby girl, she waxed her as an infant, everywhere, the hair is so delicate that the roots die out pretty quick. So she wasn’t hairy any more and even after puberty remained pretty much hairless.
Another relatives bhabi did this to two of her daughters because her own mom had done it to her and she was pretty much hairless as an adult because of it. This relative told me that the trick was to wax once or twice as an infant and then a couple of times BEFORE u hit puberty , so around 9-10. (This includes a bikini wax as well). This kills the hair follicles before they get all those puberty hormones and really become a b!tch! So basically her mom did it to her and that’s why she’s done to her daughters for the same result. (They’re young (toddlers), not at the 9-10 age yet).
A friend of mine had a niece who had body hair issues when she was born. Friends bhabi did the full body wax thing, baby regrows no body hair, now is practically hairless at 7 years of age.

Hearing from all these ppl firsthand I felt that I would do it too to my daughter. I sort of chickened out and didn’t do the full body wax (though I feel I might at some point, she’s two right now). But she did have this dark patch of hair just above her butt on her lower back, I gave that a quick wax (from the waxing lady who comes to my house). Hair didn’t grow back I was glad I did it. My daughter has hair on hr upper lip too, noticeable, at this age, I want to do something to it but don’t want to hurt her. I’m thinking I might do something though so she doesn’t have to go through this at 10. My way of rationalizing is that our mothers or grandmothers have done it to babies for years, the loee thing is pretty common in Pakistan, but pretty time consuming. Waxing is less painful (with such minimal and delicate hair) and a one time thing. The aata thing u have to do everyday for weeks and ofcourse the baby is in discomfort for like 15 min everyday. And with waxing it’s just one day.
Anyway plz don’t kill me.

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Lol, did she cry when it was waxed? :teary1:

honestly, the more I think about it the less I find it weird. I feel like the only way to not be offensive somehow is to not broadcast it or brag about it, “like OMG moms you should totally wax your daughters! it’s gross if you don’t!!!” know what I mean?

A while back, I read an article about an 8 year old girl whose mother gave her brazilian waxes…not sure if it turned out to be a hoax or not but I’m not sure if thats too extreme either.

yeayeayea I know, love yourself, blah blah blah but lets face it, I don’t think ther’es a single woman who doesn’t do some kind of hair removal, be it face or body, on a regular basis or less regularly…

Like someone else posted, NO ONE has disputed that women should or shouldn’t remove hair, but the debate will always be on WHEN. Just imagine as an adult, you’d NEVER have to worry about doing that? No waxes, no shaving, no creams, no laser, saving so much time and $$ and pain. (although if someone doesn’t want to wax their little kid, that’s perfectly alright too).

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Sasha my dhs niece did this to her newborn nephew, forhead only as he was very hairy and had a monobrow. So not unheard of there.
I know tradionalLy the besan is applied to newborns for this, I wih i had known about it earlier i would have done it too. Well i did on my toddler dd who is 21 months but the besan made her cheeks spotty so i stopped after just one try.

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Yeh I tried the aata thing, maybe I didn’t make it to the required consistency but it did nothing. Just did it twice. I think besan is more effective cuz I’ve used besan masks and it’s really difficult to get off when it dries. And yes it makes the baby’s skin really red.
My baby’s patch wax, I think it didn’t hurt because she didn’t cry or seem bothered by it. She was more bothered by the “strange” waxing lady who she did not know and was trying to figure out what she was doing to her. The patch of skin was a little red for like 15 min but Alhumdulillah nothing else. So I figured this was better than torturing her with an aata or besan waxing that would have to be done every day for several weeks. And it wouldn’t even be one quick pull, it’s like this irritating “nochna” of the hair again and again. Now if I can just sum up the courage of doing an upper lip wax for her.
On a funny note, when she watches me thread my upper lip or tidy up my eyebrows, she picks up the extra broken threads that I’ve discarded on my dressing table and then holds it against her upper lip like she’s trying to thread herself, it’s amazing they pick up everything u do, good or bad :(. Too much pressure to be good. Anyway I don’t think she knows what I’m actually doing (removing hair) but just that I’m doing something repetitively.

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I did it! I waxed her upper lip! The waxing lady did it, I held her lips taut. She cried for a while but was fine after. Her upper lip was a little red but was fine after a while. Let’s see how this goes now. Keeping my fingers crossed for no moochhain at puberty!

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I once had the hair waxed on my upper lip part, I was 16/17, my parents were angry and accused me of doing it for ‘boys’. I did it because of the bullying, mostly by other girls. The funny thing is, because of their bullying I began looking at their own faces and noticed, they all had hair on their upper lip too. The blond girls have blond moustaches, it especially shows in light, yet they bullied me and a Turkish girl. Some Turkish children also bullied others for having moustaches btw, meanwhile, their own female family members also had them . . . Most females in the world have hair on their upper lips, arms, legs, etc. Look at them in light, you will notice. It’s sad that the females who have more visible hair on their upper lip or arms or legs are bullied.

One of the Dutch girls who used to bully me about hair on my legs, which I wasn’t allowed to shave or wax btw, also had hair on her own face. It was blond, so you only noticed it in light, she also had hair on her arms and thick blond hair on her cheeks. Yet she bullied me for having hair which was actually less than hers. I never bullied other people for having hair on their face, yet they did bully me. Even nowadays children are still bullied over this. My daughter was bullied too for the same reason, she and some of her friends.

At a small age, children, but also teenagers, have a confidence which is shattered easily, mine certainly was. I would have been happier if I had been allowed to remove hair from my legs, and wax or bleach my upper lip, not wear salwar kamiez at school, as these were all reasons I was bullied, mostly by other girls. That is strange btw, how especially girls bully each other, no male child, teenager or adult has ever bullied me or even made a nasty comment about hair on my upper lip or arm or not threading my brows, it’s always our fellow females, why? We’re supposed to help each other as we understand each other better, imho.

With age and the right kind of life experience, stronger confidence is built and then it doesn’t matter that much anymore what other people think about hair on your body. Besides, often children and teenagers are nasty towards each other and many are shallow. Many adults change and aren’t as shallow anymore and don’t bully someone for something like hair on the body, which again, all females from every country and culture have been given by nature.

I sometimes make wax at home, learnt it from various YouTube videos, it’s less expensive then buying it and it’s easier to use, for me anyway. When I do make wax, once in a while, both my daughter (17) and I wax our legs. It cleans your skin too as it’s home made and has natural ingredients. Afterwards your skin feels nice and you feel so light. That’s the only reason we remove hair from our own body nowadays.

We females should stick up for each other and help making the nasty habbits in society disappear. There are already many problems in the world, real nasty things each human being deals with in personal life, why make life more complicated with these unnecesary issues? Having natural hair on your arms, upper lip, etc. shouldn’t even be an issue. People are being killed for nothing, people are dying of hunger, people are being harrassed because of their race, religion, sexual oriëntation, you name it and it happens, these are the real issues society should be worried about and there are so many more real issues, yet in daily life, people bully others for having hair somewhere on their body. What a world.

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Some photos from various females with upper lip hair from all kinds of backgrounds:

http://thewaxingblog.com/storage/hairy_celebrities_12.jpg?__SQUARESPACE_CACHEVERSION=1278952663316

http://www.silkbeautyhairremoval.co.uk/images/gallery/gallery_female_lip.jpg

http://www.southcoastmedspa.com/images/bna/set28.jpg

http://photos2.demandstudios.com/dm-resize/photos.demandstudios.com%2F93%2F132%2Ffotolia_341178_XS.jpg?w=400&h=10000&keep_ratio=1

Just search on internet and show bullied girls the facial hair (and arm hair and leg hair) from females from all over the world and any skin colour and any hair colour. Perhaps that will help rebuild their own confidence again. :slight_smile:

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Interesting info on this baby waxing. I have an extremely hairy little preschooler (forehead, mustache, back). After reading this thread, part of me wants to wax him. He is too young right now to be bullied about it but I know its coming in a few years. Will let you all know if i build up the courage to do it!