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Do not weep Mr. Sholay;

Which type of proofs you are collecting against Hazrat Mirza sahib, are in the same way in which are collected by Non-Muslims against our Holy Prophet (pbuh).

Before your last two posts, I have given all the answers of your questions in such a way that you had no counter questions to ask on these issues.

Now it is too much.

I am waiting for "to the point" answers to my outstanding questions.

If you ignore the Quranic verses and Ahadith for which I am asking from you the explaination, then it would be between you and Allah.

[This message has been edited by babar123 (edited July 03, 2001).]

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Mr. Sholay:

Following are your comments on your own questions.

"Whether thay are cut and paste or my own is besides the point."

** My Answer:

Actual problem is not that you are copying your questions from a website.

Actual problem is that Books as a whole are saying something totally different which can be understood by single sentences.

In this way you are being deceived by the administration of that website.

And then you are trying to deceive others by presenting these single sentences.

**What you can do in this way??????

Suppose you successfully deceive others and yourself.

But can you deceive Allah in this way????????

Fear from Allah....**

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[quote]
Originally posted by babar123:
**Mr. Sholay:

Following are your comments on your own questions.

"Whether thay are cut and paste or my own is besides the point."

** My Answer:

Actual problem is not that you are copying your questions from a website.

Actual problem is that Books as a whole are saying something totally different which can be understood by single sentences.

In this way you are being deceived by the administration of that website.

And then you are trying to deceive others by presenting these single sentences.

What you can do in this way??????

Suppose you successfully deceive others and yourself.

But can you deceive Allah in this way????????

Fear from Allah....****
[/quote]

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[quote]
Originally posted by sholay:
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Mirza the Greatest Liar of them all:

Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiani conducted a Mubahala with Maulana Abdul Haq Ghaznavi (Allah's mercy on him), in Eidgah ground of Amristar on Zeeqadah 10, 1310 A.H.

(Majmuai-Ishtiharat Mirza Qadiani, Vol. 1, P. 427)

Maulana Abdul Haq Ghaznavi's 'Mubahala' was on this issue that Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiani and all his believers were kafirs, liars, impostors and faithless.
(Majmuai-Ishtiharat Mirza Qadiani, Vol. 1, P. 425)

Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiani had said on Oct. 2, 1907 (7 months, 24 days before his death) that "the liar among the participants in a Mubahala dies during the lifetime of the truthful."
(Majmuai-Ishtiharat Mirza Qadiani, Vol. 9, P.440)

Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiani died during the lifetime of Maulana Abdul Haq Ghaznavi on May 26, 1908, whereas Maulana Abdul Haq Ghaznavi (Allah's mercy on him) expired 9 years later, on May 16, 1917.
(Rais-e-Qadian, Vol. 2, P. 192)

Just wait for the explanation on this one!

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Totally wrong presentation:

Hazrat Mirza sahib became aware before 1907 that now Allah is going to give him Death. So there no Question arises of any such statement in 1907.

There are so many his writings that he started preparing Ahmedies to make up mind to face his Death.

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"I am neither an earth-worm nor a human being.
I am the most hated organ of human body and a shame for humanity."
(Roohany Khazaen, Vol. 21, Page 127)

As described by the Lapdog himself.

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Teaches that Mirza Ghulam Ahmad is superior to Prophet Muhammad sallallahu alayhi wasallam:

"Muhammad has descended amongst us once again, and he is more greater in his status than ever before. Whomsoever wants to see Muhammad, O Akmal, should see Ghulam Ahmad in Qaadiyaan." (Badr, Qaadiyaan, 25th October, 1906, Mirza Ghulam)

"What were Aboo Bakr and Umar? They were not even fit to open the shoelaces of Hadhrat Ghulam Ahmad."

"All Muslims who have not entered allegiance to Maseeh Maw'ood (Mirza), even though they have not heard the name of Maseeh Maw'ood, are kaafir and out of the fold of Islaam." (Aai'nae Sadaaqat, Page 35)

"Allah has made it clear to me that every person whom my call has reached and has not accepted me, he is not a Muslim." (Tazkirah, Page 600, Mirza Ghulam)

To sum it up;

Qaadiyaanism is Nothing but,
Conspiracy against Islaam,
Kufr in the guise of Religion, and
Hypocrisy in the Name of Islaam.