Re: Changing Pakistan's national language?
lets just adopt klingon-ese as the official langauge. Khissa khatam.
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Kaplah Fraudaiaz!
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we’re a hopeless ppl…
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make kashmiri the national language. it's nearly the same as Urdu, written in the same script, uses the same vocab (persian/arabic), is an extremely mixed language (farsi/arabic/pushto/punjabi/shina/khowar), and most Urdu-speakers can understand it. plus it will strengthen pakistan's claim to kashmir even if mushy gives it up for the time being.
what do you say people? boliva koshur?
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y not hindi:D
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Punjabi should be the national language of Pakistan. Punjab is the largest state and over 65% of the population lives there. Punjabi language and culture is very rich and goes back centuries. People in Pakistan shun Punjabi over Urdu as status, how false and superficial is that! Urdu is the language of Indian Muslims. I am not against Urdu by why choose that over your own mother tongue!
Punjabi's have this inferiority complex when in Urdu company; a good example of this is, if a 10 Punjabi's are in the company of 1 Urdu speaker, all 10 Punjabis will go out of their way and try to converse in Urdu, but the 1 Urdu speaker will never try to converse in any other language but his own.
We don't have anything to do with Arabic or Persian, again these would be imposed languages.
The sad thing is that local cultures and languages will start to disappear.
Another example of loss to our Punjabi children, I was at a family gathering, we older guyes were all in room with a few children listening on as to what we were talking about, we were tell jokes and stories etc and generally having a laugh, but the children were just looking at each other, because they could not understand tha jokes and join in. This is where Urdu is changing us. By almeans teach Urdu but teach Punjabi first. I myself never learnt Urdu officially, but I speak Urdu fluently. A person that can speak Punjabi can easily speak Urdu, but not the otherway around!
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Those children must be civilized.....
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whats next on ur agenda?
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There's an Urdu Uni in Karachi that is funded publically. It’s ridiculous to have an Urdu University in a province where Sindhi is the main language. Is there a Sindhi Uni in the plans?
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Yeh right CheGuvera! Hindi and Urdu speakers in India are civilized...lol!!
U guys have just got one big inferiority complex. SAD!
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Lets keep Urdu as offical language- the whole point was to unite the nation with one common tongue- as we are an islamic nation- ethnicity dont matter- only religion does
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Yes.. i'd agree. Keep Urdu, but at least implement it, by which I mean using it for all public official and educational purposes. Its not really used like that is it? All the good schools are English-medium. All the universities teach in English. The rich people use it.
On the other hand, if we are to become an Islamic nation the best language for that purpose would be Arabic. also theres no need to translate books if we choose arabic.
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Thats because Urdu speakers pay all the bills in the country…when Sindhis stop being parasites and start contributing to the national exchecquer, instead of being freeloaders like their counterparts in Punjab…they can have fringe benefits as well
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The strongest argument against that is the fate of Bangladesh. Fluent knowledge of English is limited to a very small proportion of the literate population, because Bangladesh uses only Bengali for educational purposes. This makes Bangladesh less capable of competing in the globalised services economy.
Pakistan has a rapidly growing services economy because most of the educated people in Pakistan have strong English skills due to English-medium education at schools and especially at universities.
Removing English from extensive usage will economically and academically isolate Pakistan as Bangladesh has experienced.
One of Pakistan’s economic strengths is the presence of a large English speaking workforce due to the strong emphasis on English medium education.
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Choochi, are you suggesting that Sindhis are like refugees in their own province and Mohajirs are like Jewish settlers? I can see your point. No one speaks Serbo-Croatian anymore either, it is dead in hell, where Urdu is also destined to end up.
If Punjab didn’t send food towards you, you guys will make Jinnah look like Mr. Universe. Every time you eat your skinny rooti (two Karachi Chappatis make half a Lukma for me), send prayers towards Punjab. Repeat after me: Punjabi mera moula, baqi sab roula.
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Doesn’t this make a mockery of the claim that Urdu is Pakistan’s national language? What good is a national language that is not used?
I agree that English benefits Pakistan economically. But doesn’t the fact that there are two languages - English and Urdu - jointly mauling the local languages mean that the latter have no chance of developing beyond their spoken status?
In India they’ve kept English and it’s now become the de facto official and link language. They don’t feel the need for a national link language that is Indian. They’re happy to tolerate each state having its own official language and teaching that language in school.
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English is must if Pakistan is to be a player in the larger picture. My argument is that Punjabi or any other local language should not be side lined for Urdu. Urdu is only spoken by around 10% of the population. We should adopt the Indian way, where they teach the national language and also the local language, this way you get best of both worlds. Local culture is guaranteed to be safeguarded. People just get onto the bandwagon and bang on about Urdu without thinking of the deeper implications of losing culture and identity.
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Indian schools have a tri-language formula…Hindi + Local language + English
decades ago, various regions were ready to revolt against Hindification of India…so this was a compromised solution, and it was turned out to be a very effective system.
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Agree with you Bro.
Changing national language from urdu to something new will be another mistake. almost all the people in Pakistan understand this language. so assume this as midium of communication.
I was surprised to see my indian fellows at work, they dont know Hindi but regional languages only and had to communicate in english.
i think we should have one national language which is already in place, URDU. regional languages should not be pressed back.
I speak URDU, and being punjabi i also speak punjabi. there is nothing wrong with it.
one guppi said here to adopt Arabic cause its muslim language only! well to be a muslim you dont have to leave your language but only faith and beleive are the key for Muslim faith.
Ground FACT: URDU is spoken and understood all parts of Pakistan - so it will stay as national language.
people will still be speaking regional languages cause its natural every one should speak their mother tounge!
anyway - i dont know why this thread is about? is there any change of national language on the table by government?
come on grow up people and look at future and think about how we have progress ahead, going back and dig up old matters will not do any good but waste of time.
Allah hafiz
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In Pakistan the mother tongue is only taught in Pushtoland and Sindh. Punjabis are not taught their mother tongue. In Balochistan they started teaching it but failed because the language did not have a standard dialect. I think in Punjab they should start teaching Arabic as a second language after Urdu. 