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Lets assume that whole army is from punjab. So what? They are not coward like ....
its because they don't hire "Mohajirs" in as much numbers, so what? They are scared of mohajirs?
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its because they don't hire "Mohajirs" in as much numbers, so what? They are scared of mohajirs?
Errr who said that? I would like to see the source of this claim.
Looking at populations stats, do Muhajirs even make up the 'numbers' to out number Punjabi recruits. Just because it is practically impossible to out number Punjabi recruits in army, lets assume that evil Punjabi army hates Muhajirs. Seriously. Come on.
By the way, not that I have any stats to back up my following statement, but I've heard Muhajirs have a decent presence in Pakistan Armed Force and Navy.
But seriously, who was Musharraf? Who's Pakistan Air Force's current Chief? Who was Rashid Minhas?
Maybe if some people and political parties stop propagating hate against 'Punjabi' army, perhaps more and more Muhajir youth will be willing to join their Pakistan's army instead of aligning themselves with ethno-fascist political organisations.
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should the other routes be stopped? i know it would completely seal PPP’s future.
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Pakistan Army is no joke. Yes, it has been involved in political games (and that part is often criticized heavily) but professionally speaking, it is one of the finest armies with very high standards operating on merit. It is a misconception associated with Pakistan Army that it is actually a Punjabi Army which takes care of the interests of the Punjab and does not take care of the other federating units.
Lets look at the leadership. From the time of Pakistani independence 15 Generals have commanded Pakistan Army. Out of these 15 Generals 2 were British, 4 were Pakhtun race, 1 was Hazara, 3 were Mohajir (including zai who migrated from jalandhar) and 5 were Punjabi.
In 64 years after independence, Pakistan has been ruled by 4 Generals for 32 years. These Generals are General Ayub Khan (9 years), General Yahya Khan (3 years), General Zia Ul Haq (11 years) and General Pervez Musharaf (9 years). Not a single one of these Generals was a pure Punjabi and Pakistan army stood behind each one of them because it is a professional army.
Traditionally, the army has predominantly Punjabi force because of its dominant Population (no secret that Punjab is the most populous province of Pakistan). plus certain areas in punjab and KPK have a long history of sending men to army. even In British India, three districts: Jhelum, Rawalpindi, and Campbellpur (now Attock) dominated the recruitment flows.
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the term Punjabi army is a myth, the majority of the recruits come from very few districts of Punjab and KPK while whole of the province is maligned.
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I have heard from quite a few that they won't vote for PTI because they were called "Zinda Lashain". Well this term shouldn't have been used from political point of view as you need to be a bit of hypocrite in our society. Why were they called "Zinda Lashain"? because they were doing "Wah Wah Altaf Bhai" "Theek Kaha bhai" when he was insulting women and calling them all "Heera mandi ki Aurtain". In any civilised country, women belonging to such party would've asked him to cut the crap but all we saw was appreciation and wah wah which was disgusting. So a party can be supported even after multiple accusations of bhatta mafia, target killing, bori lashain (quaid himself admits) etc but all of a sudden they are so hurt about "Zinda Lashain"??? WOW!!!!
Anyway my comments aren't against any ethnic community but rather supporters of a criminal party that uses ethnic hatred to get cheap votes. We must stop this ethnic hatred and ANY leader spreading such hatred should be questioned by own party supporters. An average person in Punjab/Sindh/KPK (Balochis probably more than others) suffers the same way and only powerful get justice.
As my cousin says, Muslims don't listen to Imam e Kaaba's Friday sermon with such attentiveness and earnestness the way MQM supporters listen to Bhai's racist ramblings at 3am in the morning. Imran basically said what rest of the Pakistan thinks about the 9-0 crowd. These MQM 'secular and liberal' mullahs out do Mullahs of JUI-F when it comes to giving fatwas on Imran's person life but where does their Islam goes when their beach whale of leaders is puking racist and misogynistic venom under the influence of alcohol?
MQM used to create so much brouhaha and issue so many anti tribal inflammatory rubbish that how those tribes should be bombed for sheltering wanted militants just because they belonged to their tribe. Okay. Fine. That was very bad. Now how to the MQM supporters defend and justify people of NA-246 protecting and legitimising a terrorist organisation after all those confessions poured in. I would have thought that the the last episode of Saulat Mirza drama would've served as a real opener for the community. Even I felt sorry for that man for a split second, and wished that he had chosen a different life.
These people have no problem tolerating and accepting all the rotten criminal parties for whatever they are, yet they have gall to accept prophetic perfection when it comes to PTI. To all those apparently 'politically homeless' Sindhi and Muhajir arm chair - you guys can wait for your man o salva or messiah. But before you chat any more crap about Punjabi, do remember that it is the Punjabi youth which is passionately supporting a non ethnically aligned party to deliver in KPK! Yes, deliver in KPK to the point that it leaves their own province behind. Can you lot develop the heart to support and heavily fund a non ethnic party just so it delivers in some other province?
Maybe it is time for you guys to realise that anti Punjab sentiments has given you nothing. Absolutely nothing. If anything, the situation is deteriorating further. Maybe the time has arrived that you start fighting your own internal demons instead of hating Punjabis. Punjabi are certainly struggling against Punjabi oligarchy. Lets see if you guys can also come out on streets to protest against MQM and PPP to the point that they fear being ousted any minute.
While the youth in Karachi is being confused by political parties where he cannot decide whether he hates Punjabis, Sindhis, Muhajirs or Pashtuns the most. The youth in Punjab is campaigning against the issues such as electoral rigging, conflict of interest, money laundering, politicisation of police. This is the kind of political evolution, new ideas, new energies and new directions seeds of intellectualism you you get when you don't play politics of blame game and xenophobia!
It is in front of the evil and racist Punjabi crowd that IK receives the loudest cheer when he says in his passionate shout that he has transformed KPK!
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I have heard from quite a few that they won't vote for PTI because they were called "Zinda Lashain". Well this term shouldn't have been used from political point of view as you need to be a bit of hypocrite in our society. Why were they called "Zinda Lashain"? because they were doing "Wah Wah Altaf Bhai" "Theek Kaha bhai" when he was insulting women and calling them all "Heera mandi ki Aurtain". In any civilised country, women belonging to such party would've asked him to cut the crap but all we saw was appreciation and wah wah which was disgusting. So a party can be supported even after multiple accusations of bhatta mafia, target killing, bori lashain (quaid himself admits) etc but all of a sudden they are so hurt about "Zinda Lashain"??? WOW!!!!
Anyway my comments aren't against any ethnic community but rather supporters of a criminal party that uses ethnic hatred to get cheap votes. We must stop this ethnic hatred and ANY leader spreading such hatred should be questioned by own party supporters. An average person in Punjab/Sindh/KPK (Balochis probably more than others) suffers the same way and only powerful get justice.
As my cousin says, people don't listen to Imam e Kaaba's Friday sermon with such attentiveness and earnestness the way they listen to Bhai's racist ramblings at 3am in the morning. Imran basically said what rest of the Pakistan thinks about the 9-0 crowd. These MQM 'secular and liberal' mullahs out do Mullahs of JUI-F when it comes to giving fatwas on Imran's person life but where does their Islam goes when their beach whale of leaders is puking racist and misogynistic venom under the influence of alcohol?
MQM used to create so much brouhaha and issue so many anti tribal inflammatory rubbish that how those tribes should be bombed for sheltering wanted militants just because they belonged to their tribe. Okay. Fine. That was very bad. Now how to the MQM supporters defend and justify people of NA-246 protecting and legitimising a terrorist organisation after all those confessions poured in. I would have thought that the the last episode of Saulat Mirza drama would've served as a real opener for the community. Even I felt sorry for that man for a split second, and wished that he had chosen a different life.
These people have no problem tolerating and accepting all the rotten criminal parties for whatever they are, yet they have gall to accept prophetic perfection when it comes to PTI. To all those apparently 'politically homeless' Sindhi and Muhajir arm chair - you guys can wait for your man o salva or messiah. But before you do any more propaganda against Punjabi, do remember that it is the Punjabi youth which is passionately supporting a non ethnically aligned party to deliver in KPK! Delivers in KPK to the point that it leaves their own province behind. Can you lot develop the heart to support/fund a non ethnic party just so it delivers in some other province?
While the youth in Karachi is being confused by political parties where he cannot decide whether he hates Punjabis, Sindhis, Muhajirs or Pashtuns the most. The youth in Punjab is campaigning against the issue of electoral rigging, electoral reform, conflict of interest, money laundering, politicisation of police. This is the kind of political evolution and new ideas and seeds of intellectualism you get when you don't play politics of blame game, xenophobia and cultural props.
Maybe it is time for you guys to realise that hating Punjabi has given you nothing. Absolutely nothing. If anything, the situation is deteriorating further. Maybe the time has arrived that you start fighting your own internal demons instead of hating Punjabis and blaming everyone else.
It is in front of the evil and racist Punjabi crowd that IK receives the loudest cheer when he says in his passionate shout that he has transformed KPK!
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Errr who said that? I would like to see the source of this claim.
who said that? go to Karachi army recruitment centers, you may have to rewind to 1970s-80s.
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who said that? go to Karachi army recruitment centers, you may have to rewind to 1970s-80s.
Same old...same old. Politics of 70s and 80s. I wonder if its a good idea to make Punjabis in Punjab (the average joes) to just start learning about the sheer hatred which was spewed by their other 'little brothers' in 70s and 80s. Seems like that's the only group in Pakistan that chooses not have a victim complex no matter how much racist sheet other ethnicities spew against it.
Last night I was thinking of getting a book on India's relations with its Sikh population considering Indra Ghandi decided to demolish their holiest site - the Golden Temple. But somehow Sikhs of India seems like a pretty successful, well integrated and patriotic group despite all that's happened in the history. So nice.
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Same old...same old. Politics of 70s and 80s. I wonder if its a good idea to make Punjabis in Punjab (the average joes) to just start learning about the sheer hatred which was spewed by their other 'little brothers' in 70s and 80s. Last night I was thinking of getting a book on India's relations with its Sikh population considering Indra Ghandi decided to demolish their holiest site - the Golden Temple. Sikhs of India seems like a pretty successful and well integrated and patriotic group despite all that's happened in the history.
first to define the borders of Punjab
Pothohar , Thall Multan and Bahawalpur are not Punjab actually
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first to define the borders of Punjab Pothohar , Thall Multan and Bahawalpur are not Punjab actually
Kashmiris says pothohari region of Pakistan is actually part of kashmir?
Will you go with kashmiris or will show munafiqat?
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Back on topic
Our national psyche of cynicism, deep suspicion and negativity has given rise to doubts over the CPEC.
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kashmiri says pothohari region of Pakistan is actually part of kashmir? Will you go with kashmiri or will show munafiqat?
Present AJK , Hazara & Pothohar are very close all respects . How can I go with every voice
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Present AJK , Hazara & Pothohar are very close all respects . How can I go with every voice
so can you make them one? following your race loving approach?
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so can you make them one? following your race loving approach?
No , I am not raciest other wise I may be supporting Takht e Lahore like you , I think and work only for my Pakistan , No problem if I am left alone
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No , I am not raciest other wise I may be supporting Takht e Lahore like you , I think and work only for my Pakistan , No problem if I am left alone
I dont support PMLn even dont mind spliting provinces. Only a racist would say one province should be divided and other should stay integrated like bharat mata.
wohi bongi mari, jawab nae dia?
who is right, kashmiris or hazara or someone else?
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I dont support PMLn even dont mind spliting provinces. Only a racist would say one province should be divided and other should stay integrated like bharat mata. wohi bongi mari, jawab nae dia? who is right, kashmiris or hazara or someone else?
again a blinded post, everyone is suggesting to split all provinces into many, but only a racist would think that people are talking about only his province to be split.
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again a blinded post, everyone is suggesting to split all provinces into many, but only a racist would think that people are talking about only his province to be split.
you want province on the basis of muhajir race, i guess. I was asking AP. if he agrees with you on splitting sindh, ok. If dont aggree with you then you should think before posting blindly.
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again a blinded post, everyone is suggesting to split all provinces into many, but only a racist would think that people are talking about only his province to be split.
Thats not the case, Sindhis wont allow division of Sindh, same can be said of Pashtuns (KPK) and Baloch (Balochistan). In any case creating provinces on basis of ethnicity I dont know will solve the issue or aggravate it. Even the Punjab that AP proposes has lots of variations in ethnicities and accents (from one division to another).
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Meanwhile India keep on showing its displeasure over the plan. I guess another reason to start building and complete it ASAP
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