Re: Chaaleeswan
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I though Tarawih is sunnah not bidah.
sis are you sure about that?
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Re: Chaaleeswan
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I though Tarawih is sunnah not bidah.
sis are you sure about that?
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sure. How can it be sunnah, the Propeht (saw)did not read them did he?
Re: Chaaleeswan
^ Tarawih prayer is Sunnah Mu'akkadah
In the Hadith reported by Salman Al-Farisi , the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) addressed the people saying: "O people a blessed and holy month comes to you spreading its shade on you, a month in which Allah made fasting obligatory and staying up at night in worship (i.e. performing Tarawih) as an optional act. In this month there is a single night which is better than one thousand months…"
But tarwih in congregation was established by Hazrat Umer.
Every year in Ramadhan in Masjidil Haraam they pray 20 rakaat tarwih. So are you saying that they are performing "good bidah" at the house of Allah.
I don't think that there such thign as "good bidah". If something is bidah it has to be bad otherwise that thing is not bidah.
Re: Chaaleeswan
yaar i was talking about the congregation tarawih. It was established by Hazrat Umar, so how does it become a sunnah? and is there something wrong with good biddahs? Why are all biddahs bad?
Re: Chaaleeswan
^ Well you had to be more precise then.
Iike I said if something is good it should not be called a bidah. Word bidah in Islam is used only for unislamic practices.
Re: Chaaleeswan
Ravage, first of all I did not say it was Haram. I just said that there is no proof that this practise is a part of Islam, and hence is biddah, that you have not been able to refute. Plus I am not going to go into lengthy discussion, its suffice to say that two generations from now, peopel from those household who practicsc such rasm-o-ravag will think (and dont think that this does not happen already) that this stuff is part of Islam. i.e. 40th day Khattam and degay deyna....what a bunch of $%$%$.
Oh well, Peace out.
Re: Chaaleeswan
alrite then. so you say its not Haram. bottomline then for both of us that if chaleeswan is done properly, without beyadabi or other qabil e etaraz stuff, then it is mostly comprised of either sawab or mubah stuff?
great. end of discussion. bilawajah ka faseehta.
Re: Chaaleeswan
I am glad we agree to disagree err… I mean agree 
Re: Chaaleeswan
UNrelated posts should be avoided…you start pointing fingers over certain things and when you gets answered , start ranting about mazloomiat—typical
Re: Chaaleeswan
^ i am not sure if u know what u are talking about..i'd like you to open up ur eyes and read carefully and try to understand the discussion..i know its kinda difficult for you
we were the one answering so you guys got the answer..and anyways we were discussing biddah..and you know adding something into azan is a biddah..u might call it a good biddah lol sureee
Re: Chaaleeswan
^^ jee jee--adding aliwaliullah wa khalifah bila fasil is a biddah......we both agree here - hain na
Re: Chaaleeswan
agree, but hey its good biddah, so its all good. :k:
Re: Chaaleeswan
the Prophet (saw) also prayed it in congregation for a few nights… as in Sahih al Bukhari and elsewhere… and he allowed his companions to do so as well such as Jabir ibn Abdlullah who would lead the ladies of his house… the latter is in al Tabarani’s Mu’jam al Kabir i believe… this issue has been discussed at length in other threads
Re: Chaaleeswan
Taraweeh is the prayer which Ahe Sunnah pray in congregation after Isha Prayer in the holy month of Ramazan. They complete recitation of the whole Quran atleast once in this prayer during the whole month. Rakat of Taraweeh is not fixed in them.
Taraweeh is bidah because of the following reasons:
(1) It was never offered by Prophet Muhammad in the whole month of Ramazan.
(2) The holy prophet never offered this prayer after the Isha Prayer.
(3) It was never offered in the designated location of the mosque.
(4) Prophet disliked those people who called them for the prayer which he offered for three days in the last part of night before dawn.
(5) Abu Bakar who was authority for Ahle Sunnah, never offered Taraweeh in his life.
(6) Umar ordered to prayer, but never offered the Taraweeh prayer himself in his life.
(7) Umar did not ordered the Taraweeh prayer in his early years of Khalafa. it was 17th year of his khalafa.
(8) Umar never gave the reason of Fear while ordering Taraweeh prayer. He was simply passing by and saw people prayer without a group and than ordered them to pray in congregation. which is not a hujat for muslimeen
(9) Alhe Bait and their imams never offered taraweeh prayer in their life.
(10) Ali and Hassan (AS) condemned this act in Kufa when it was their khalfat time.
(11) Taraweeh prayer is not proved from Sahah Sita books.
Re: Chaaleeswan
^ shi-ites complaining that tarawih is bida because (supposedly) Abu Bakr and 'Umar never prayed it... LOL!!...
... do a search, you'll see most of the above so-called reasons (1-8 in any case) have been discussed and asked and answered at length
Re: Chaaleeswan
^ no...they are not important...the point is Prophet (pbuh&up) never started this monthly practice
Re: Chaaleeswan
^ the point is... he (saw) did... he prayed it in congregation to show its permissibility... allowed his companions to pray it in congregation... and generally encouraged prayer during Ramadhan nights... go and read the other threads on tarawih to remind yourself
Re: Chaaleeswan
^^
Repeating !
(1) It was never offered by Prophet Muhammad in the whole month of Ramazan.
(2) The holy prophet never offered this prayer after the Isha Prayer.
(3) It was never offered in the designated location of the mosque.
(4) Prophet disliked those people who called them for the prayer which he offered for three days in the last part of night before dawn.
Re: Chaaleeswan
If it is not Bidah - then why Abu Bakar who was authority for Ahle Sunnah, never offered Taraweeh in his life. and why Umar who himself ordered to pray, but never offered the Taraweeh prayer himself in his life.