Ch. Iftikhar's corruption vs Musharraf's Corruption [split: EMERGENCY IMPOSED IN PAK]

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Once again you fail to make me (perhaps anyone) understand why its OK for CJ and those 7 judges to take oath on PCO but not right for other judges? When CJ and these 7 judges were taking oath on PCO (first PCO), there were other judges who denied and went home. How can they now ask others not to take oath?

When they were asked that "why they took oath on PCO" they said "so that we can provide justice to people and to avoid any crises in judiciary", why others can not do the same this time? In fact one of the judge (Justice Ramdey) said quite proudly few days ago that "I dont have any regrets on taking oath on PCO"

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I think that when Musharraf's son went to study in USA, President was Colonel or Brigadier and earning much less than what you are assuming. Still, I don't see that your accusation stands. Because, how can you say that Musharraf was financing his son education in USA, as many Pakistanis go to USA to study but very few parents really finance their study.

Even though most likely chance is that Bilal (Musharraf's son) worked through his education, it is also possible that if he ever needed financial support, Musharraf younger brother who is practicing medicine in USA may have helped him financially. That means, there are explanations regarding finance of Bilal getting education in USA.

As for CJ son driving BMW in Pakistan, there is no explanations to that other than source being corruption as it is impossible to earn enough money in any Pakistani government Job earlier than 10 years ago to afford BMW (as before Musharraf took over, pays in government jobs even at highest level were very low). There are also many other corruption and misuse of power charges on CJ during his period as Judge.

Since Chief Justice made sure that all allegations on him never get investigated, it shows that all allegations on CJ are true. Well, its obvious, as government would not have made reference on such allegations if it was not true, as all such allegations are easy to prove (or disprove) and government knew the health of each allegation on CJ. On the other hand, if CJ was innocent, he would not have made sure that investigation does not happen.

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Do you agree Musharraf's regime is illegal/un-constitutional?

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no sir. everything done by madman mushy is legal from making deals with corrupt ppl…pardoning billions in loans and killing innocent civilians. its all part of constitution which says go on a killing spree whenever u (mushy) are gassy or low on self esteem or can’t have things your way. dead ppl tell no tales so who will come after you? :k: :halo: :rolleyes:

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Bhai, aap nay yea kiya baat kee?

No, Musharraf regime is not illegal or un-constitutional. Musharraf regime is ultra-constitutional. Every thing that Musharraf has done or would do, it eventually gets sanctioned by parliament and thus becomes constitutional.

On the other hand, actions of armed forces everywhere in the world are above constitution. That is why in almost all countries, there is special court for military, that has their own military laws and country’s law does not apply there. Even armed forces are not dealt with civilian police, and thus to deal with them, armed forces has their own police, that is call military police.

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Sorry but I didn't ask you :p ... I'll wait for 6Chora's answer.

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chalyea ... jaisay aap kee marzi :)

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The BMW you are talking about is the one that was provided to CJ by the PM. BTW, all of Mushrraf cheeni, atta and steal choor ministers are driving BMW paid for by the tx payers.

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so the former CJ is not better than any of the chorr ministers.
good. we agree.

Re: Ch. Iftikhar's corruption vs Musharraf's Corruption [split: EMERGENCY IMPOSED IN

There are no angels in politics including the CJ, but he is better than most in my eyes b/c he was at least providing justice to poor people.

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sure, he is better than many in my view as well.

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You talking about the first PCO or 2nd one ?

Re: Ch. Iftikhar's corruption vs Musharraf's Corruption [split: EMERGENCY IMPOSED IN

so CJ is in politics ....thanks for accepting :)

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There is nothing to accept or reject. Facts speaks for themselves. Both CJ and Mushrraf are accidents of history. If NS hadn't appointed Mushrraf as an army chief he would just be another 3rd rate retired general today, same goes for the CJ. He is no Thomas Jefferson or John Roberts nor was he a brilliant lawyer, but there is also big difference between them two.

Once in position of power he delivered justice, he took up cause of the poor, put politically untouchable murders and thugs in jail. There is story of hindu family from Sindh, Manu Beel, that was kidnapped by the local landlord. Police refused to take up the case of register FIR against him. He forced police take up the case and find his family. There is no hope for people like Mr. Beel, and millions like him who were looking up to his court for justice. He stopped Pakistan steel mills from being given away for just Rs 21 billion when land alone there is worth well over Rs 300 billions.

Anyway, sometime people come to position of power, even through questionable means and they end up doing good things. He is living example of that, and he is paying price for it, and he will leave good legacy. What will be Mushrraf's legacy? A 3rd thug who did everything in his power to stay in power, and destroyed the country in the process.

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I am talking about Musharraf from Oct 8 1999, PCO sheeceeo are just tools to extend it.