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Even made on stolen land which is a haram act to start with?
that particular mosque's particular land is'nt stolen....
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Just a reminder this thread did not start on the last page, there are other pages earlier to that as well.
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that particular mosque's particular land is'nt stolen....
In post # 154 you (your quote in my last post) you were not talking about only one mosque you were talking about mosques made on disputed lands. Actually you were giving advise how this kind of problem should be solved.
You can revise it if you meant otherwise, I will take back my post.
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If Musharraf is a Good muslim...why don't he buy the land of these mosques with his own money and then open the mosques for public....Instead of demolishing them. He's not doing his job....he's doing what America wants him to do. First of all killing his own muslim brothers,sisters.small children within his own country....and now destroying 'houses of Allah.... All of you who are supporting 'Musharraf ' in his ' job' are no better than him.
Let's say as an owner I don't want to sell it, now what else is the choice for the government but to demolish it. And these so called house of allah are nothing more than enchroachment. Zammen hathianay ka aasaan tareeqa.
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According to your post 160.....if the mosque on your land is 60 years old and regularly used then my post 154's rule will apply.....if you claim after 60 years for your land than you'll only recieve money or subtitute.
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^Is it the law of the land or your opinion? I did not see any reference.
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Let's say as an owner I don't want to sell it, now what else is the choice for the government but to demolish it. And these so called house of allah are nothing more than enchroachment. Zammen hathianay ka aasaan tareeqa.
Then go to a mufti and or a court.......these particular massajid have no owner except the government.
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^Is it the law of the land or your opinion? I did not see any reference.
This is the order of priority that good muslim should give to house of Allah.
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You can start another thread on beards…
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Just to add one last bit, someone could have a property on land that is rightfully theirs, and the govt can still remove them because of eminent domain, it happens everywhere, of course in such cases it is the govts responsibility to relocate the people, businesses or organizations, give them fair market value etc. The bar has to be set very high for govt to be able to take this action though.
This is happening in Chicago right now with the ohare airport expansion project where certain neighbourhoods will have to be demolished to make room, there are churches in the neighbourhoods too. to my knowldge no one is calling the mayor, the governer or the president some sort of anti christ for it.
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In reply to post # 170 ^Case closed you are talking jazbaat not sense. End of discussion. What good in your opinion is not necessary the right thing to do. But I respect your views as an individual. Good night.
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To Fraudz > The fact that this is done by non-Muslims in non-Muslim countries is precisely my point, you cannot provide a suitable example from the salafo-sualiheen.
To Light Bearer > My opinion is not one of jazbat for the sake of jazbat, it because as a Muslim I do not pretend to follow the Qur'an and Sunnah and then just go and impliment or support implimentors of the secular orders.
If you think this is merely a matter of opinion then I'm afraid you are right we should end it here, let Allah (SWT) decide on the Day of Reckoning and raise us all from amongst the people who we resemble the most. Ameen.
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can you provide a suitable example from salafo-sualoheen where they stole something and justified it?
now here is some info going back to 2003 that talks about the type of issues..
http://www.dawn.com/2003/05/30/nat3.htm
ISLAMABAD, May 29: The Capital Development Authority (CDA) has decided to remove 50 unauthorized mosques constructed in the federal capital without its approval, a senior official of the CDA’s planning wing told Dawn on Thursday.
The authority has already sent a summary to the interior ministry seeking approval for the removal of unauthorized mosques.
The official said most of the unauthorized mosques were built without the submission of proper building plans while some were constructed on state land. A grand operation to remove such mosques would start within the next couple of weeks, he added.
He said these mosques were situated in different areas of the capital. The District Auqaf Department had also been informed about the CDA’s plan regarding removal of unauthorized mosques, he added.
The department, he said, would assist the CDA in conducting the operation. Negotiations with the management committees of unauthorized mosques were in progress to settle the issue in a peaceful manner, he added.
“After thorough study of all cases of unauthorized mosques, we have decided to remove 50 mosques,” the official said.
When asked what sort of violations had been committed in the construction of such mosques, the official said some of the mosques were constructed on state land as a result of which the size of relevant roads and streets had squeezed.
“In some cases more than 100 feet of state land had been encroached for the mosques,” he added.
The official said the chief commissioner Islamabad had also asked the CDA and Islamabad Capital Territory (ICT) administration to chalk out a joint plan to tackle this issue by providing alternative places to unauthorized mosques.
He said a total of 400 mosques and Madaris were present in the capital of which 50 were stated to be unauthorized.
Some of these were reportedly established on the roadsides, some on green-belts and some had violated the building laws of the CDA, he added.
In some cases, the authority had allowed only one or two rooms for mosques, but, instead huge buildings were constructed there in violation of the CDA rules, the official said.
He said in most of the cases establishment of a Madressah had not been allowed, but almost every unauthorized mosque had a Madressah in its premises.
A source in the Islamabad Capital Territory (ICT) administration said some 12,000 to 15,000 students were studying and residing in these Madaris, and if any action was taken against unauthorized mosques, their students could become violent and create law and order situation in the capital.
He said the ICT administration had been directed by the government to launch a crackdown on Madaris in the capital.
A source in the CDA said some of the unauthorized mosques could be regularized if the violations of CDA rules were removed.
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When reading this thread I always wonder if Pakistan really has a future when this is the jahil mentality some of us carry. I do not think Jinnah would have wanted to see this Pakistan and these Pakistanis.
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ok perfect lord, we bow to you! 
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can you provide a suitable example from salafo-sualoheen where they stole something and justified it?
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No ... It would be weird if I could don't you think? The article you posted is good and does demonstrate that the government have used some sort of protocol, but I'll stick to my guns and say that the best options were not executed as a priority and with the height of the political arena and America breathing down Musharrafs back, I'm not surprised that what was a thorn now has become world sanction. I think we need to agree to disagree.
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who owns the mosque?......no one a mosque is a property of no one except Allah. musharraf is the ruler of country ...he has power to save the mosques from demolishing even it is built on a an unpaid land . and would you like to tell me who owns those mosques and from whom they stole the property?
Why should the govt buy the land? That money could be far better spent then spend it on legitamizing illegally built mosques... Here is an IDEA, why not just not build a mosque on someones land in the first place! If people need another mosque to pray in, then they should petition for onw to be built, or make thier way over to the hundreds of others all across the city.
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Why should the govt buy the land? That money could be far better spent then spend it on legitamizing illegally built mosques... Here is an IDEA, why not just not build a mosque on someones land in the first place! If people need another mosque to pray in, then they should petition for onw to be built, or make thier way over to the hundreds of others all across the city.
That's a good idea .... for the way forward. Peace