Carter: Israeli apartheid 'worse'

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For those worried about israel being ‘wiped off the map’, you seriously need a reality check..and perhaps a strong dose of medication alongside…**

Former US President Jimmy Carter says some Israeli restrictions imposed on Palestinians in the West Bank are worse than apartheid-era South Africa. **

In an interview broadcast on Israel Radio, Mr Carter focused on roads built exclusively for Jewish settlements.

In South Africa, blacks were not prevented from “using or even crossing” roads, as in the West Bank, he said.

Mr Carter is promoting his latest book on the Middle East conflict, which has been condemned by pro-Israeli groups.

Correspondents say the book, Palestine: Peace Not Apartheid, blames all sides for not seizing the opportunity of the Camp David peace process in the late 1970s.

But Mr Carter is most critical of Israeli policies, and the book has provoked an outcry among pro-Israeli groups in the US.

** Peace broker**

"Israel does occupy this territory deep within the West Bank, and connects 200-or-so settlements… with a road, and then prohibits the Palestinians from using that road, or in many cases even crossing the road.

“This perpetrates even worse instances of apartness, or apartheid, than we witnessed even in South Africa,” Mr Carter said.

He added that the book was intended to stimulate debate in the US - Israel’s closest political ally - where he said Israeli policies are seldom questioned.

Jewish groups in the US have petitioned against his use of the word “apartheid” - the system which underpinned white minority rule - to describe Israel’s treatment of Palestinians.

In other interviews, Mr Carter - whose Camp David summits helped end the decades-old conflict between Egypt and Israel - has rejected accusations of anti-Semitism which some critics have levelled at him.

“The greatest commitment in my life has been trying to bring peace to Israel,” Mr Carter said last week.

But he said Israel would never have peace until it withdrew from the territories which it has occupied since the 1967 Arab-Israeli war.

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Carter is anti-semite, didnt you know?

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Carter is absolutely correct in stating that the Palestinians are living in a state worse than Blacks in South Africa during the Apartheid

But the difference is that Palestinians can negotiate their way out of it

If Black South Africans had pledged to kill and expel all whites from South Africa if the apartheid ends then White South Africans would have never ended the Apartheid

Same thing for the Palestinians. If they recognize Israel's right to exist and then peace can be achieved

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They need a Nelson Mandela. Or even half the man of a Nelson Mandela.

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they wont get one

because their hatred of israelis is racial

they consider jews to be sub-human and to negotiate with these people is beyond their comprehension

if israelis were christians or druze or some other religion besides jews, the arabs would have made peace with them

but because they are jews, arabs find it very hard to make peace with them

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its not racial and its not one way, it is both ways. There are "Arab" jews too. Just like SAffie apartheid treated blacks as sub-human based on 'color', here we have 'religion'.

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There may be Arabs who are Jews but to most Arabs, Jews are seen as a seperate Race.

They are considered to be sub-human, pigs, monkeys, dogs, those are the words used to describe them.

Arabs and other countries such as Iran cannot comprehend that Arabs are forced to make peace with Israel, a nation of monkeys, dogs and pigs.

If Israelis were Christians or Druze or any other religion but Jewish, Arabs would have come to their senses long time ago and made peace. But because they are Jewish they cannot be equal to Arabs and Muslims and hence no peace.

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I don't see Israelis respecting them either. Whether they call with such names or not, but houses bulldozed, missiles and what not is used when they wish, is that 'humane'? Both sides are to be blamed for whats going on there, its not just Palestinian thingie.

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No one can deny ruling whites of South Africa were racists, but the way the blacks went about gaining their voice in government was still effective. Paletinians should use it as their model. The violent model they have pursued for 60 years has only taken them further down the rat hole.

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LOL...to the South Africans, Mendela was a terrorist...and in fact did commit acts of terror.

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The South African freedom movement was not based on violence, even though some violence did occure. Mandela was a saint compared to the likes of hamas.

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actually at one time US state dept considered mandella a terrorist as well.

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By the same token, the South Africans were saints compared to Israelis...I mean, at worse they were like pre-50's America. Neither SA nor America had troops roaming streets (which Israel started right on the get go of the occupation...so spare me the "response to terror" bit)...

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Yup...but he was still my hero :D

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http://www.jtf.org/israel/israel.black.nazi.nelson.mandela.htm

Interesting article about Nelson Mandela - published in 1998

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I disagree.

Israeli tactics to suppress the Palestinians are indeed brutal but they are not driven by racial or religious philisophy where as for Arabs and Palestinians it is.

I have seen countless documentaries in which the Palestinians simply call the Israelis, Jews. And they mis-interpret the Quran to make racist statements towards them.

How can there ever be peace when the enemy is seen as sub-human.

This exactly the kind of racial ideology that Hitler used agasint the Soviets, when he thought they were sub-human and could not fight or come up with Tanks and Planes which were superior to German produced equipment. Same with the Americans who felt the same towards the Japanese.

The sole reason that Israel was attacked in 1948 was because it was a Jewish country. Lebanon was created as a Chrisitan country but it was not attacked.

The same reason which the killing of Palestinians dominate press coverage in the Arab and Islamic world because they are killed by Jews but where as a situation over a 100 times worse in Iraq does not get the same amount of coverage or reaction.

The same reason when Sabra and Shatila Massacare happened in September 1982 in which 2,000 people were killed, even though Israelis did not do the killing, Israel was blamed and the people who did the killing were not prosecuted. The same reason when Syria massacared 20,000 people in Al-Hama in August 1982, not a peep was heard in the Arab World.

To me this means that just because the Israelis are Jews, Arabs are having a hard time treating them as equals and this explains Arab stubborness towards Israel.

PLO took 20 years to recognize Israel. Hamas is in the same position as the PLO was in the 70s. It might take another 10 years before Hamas recognizes Israel and same with that Buffoon in Iran.

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The South Africans didn't have 60 years of suicide bombers and neighbors attacking them either. Everything the Palestinians are enduring is a result of their failed terrorist policies. So spare me the comparison of a mostly peaceful resistance to live with equality to the violent actions employed to expel the Jews.

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Maybe because neither South Africa nor America were attacked by 5 countries in an attempt to destroy it and expel its entire population by countries driven by racial and religious hatred towards them

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just because palestinains are wrong in their approach to this does not automatically mean that israel is acting in a correct and responsible manner.

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No it doesn't. There are no angels here.