Carry on thrashing - Brit public backs troop brutality

[Mr_Xtreme]

75% of Sky News viewers and Sun readers have demanded that the soldiers responsible for the civilan bashing episode should NOT be prosecuted. If this is the view of the majority in England then the claims that this was just an isolated incident seems unlikely. In fact it’s a fair bet that 90% of the armed forces would join in given half the chance. It beats the hell out of useless protest marches after all.

[Lajawab]

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If these were soldiers from a Muslim nation, the same 'wonderful' Muslims who opposed the marches and protests against the cartoons would be up in arms against such brutality...

But one must truly admire the Kuffar for their ability to stick together through thick and thin and right and wrong...

For them it's a matter of survival to stick together...For us, it's more important about how we are perceived...

International incidents have proven that sticking to the herd has an effect of proving one's right...

But how does one stick to the herd and yet portray oneself as a 'wonderful' Muslim?

Image is everything...Substance is nothing...

[Mr_Xtreme]

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So what did the protest marches achieve exactly Lajjo? We got to see a few hotheads carrying placards and big beards, with one lad getting jailed for wearing a flak jacket over his designer t-shirt. So that idiot ended up in jail without resorting to any violence, whereas these troops get to give Iraqi 14 yr olds a damn good kicking in their own country, with the green light of the British public.

you tell me who got the best deal?

[Mehnaz]

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Off topic,

X, I missed you. Welcome back.

[Blitzkrieg]

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Ooo flirting going on..

[Mr_Xtreme]

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Be fair now, she did give an ‘off topic’ warning before flirting

Anyway, this comment is from the BBC forum and pretty much hits the nail on the head

The papers, like the poloticians dont represent the british people. If you go in any work place and talk about this you will hear people backing the soldiers 100%, as usual the true voice of Britain is the people not the papers and politicains.Britain is behind you lads, keep it up.

ozzy warrinder, hartlepool

[underthedome]

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Any link to this story?

[Mr_Xtreme]

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http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2006070291,00.html

SUN readers have agreed overwhelmingly that the soldiers in the video should NOT be prosecuted.

Three quarters of people who phoned our You The Jury poll line were against court martials.

[Sadiyah]

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So why is it that the British are fully backing up the acts of brutality by their solidiers?

So on the same token, would it also be alright for Muslims to beat the crap out of others, or would we have Islamophobics talking trash about Muslims then?

[Lajawab]

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@Sadiyah

So why is it that the British are fully backing up the acts of brutality by their solidiers?

So on the same token, would it also be alright for Muslims to beat the crap out of others, or would we have Islamophobics talking trash about Muslims then?

The first trash talking would come from out own midst…One must appear politically correct you know…It’s a matter of appearing nice…

[Seminole]

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@Sadiyah

So why is it that the British are fully backing up the acts of brutality by their solidiers?

So on the same token, would it also be alright for Muslims to beat the crap out of others, or would we have Islamophobics talking trash about Muslims then?

So someone would be an Islamophobe if they did? Does that make someone goraphobic if they complain about this?

People tend to group together when they see a perceived threat. Similar to bin Laden being admired by 65% of Pakistanis.

[CM]

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Double post.

[CM]

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Right Sem...those poor kids were a threat to full armed trained military soliders within their own base?

Wow...you are just as blind as the day i left.

[Stu]

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the moral of the story is, don't throw rocks at soldiers unless you're sure that you can outrun them

[Ohioguy]

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Any statisticians here?

A phone in poll of Sun Readers and Sky viewers is not scientific, and probably does not reflect the views of the British public. Is the British public sympathetic to the daily violence around their troops? Yes. Do they think violent protest endanger their troops. Yes. Do they think troops, amped up after trying to control rock throwing crowds, want to give a hearty beating to the idiots thrwoing rocks? Yes. Does it mean that professional soldiers should restrain themselves and NOT issue a beating? Yes, most of the British public wants violent protesters punished, but not the way in the video.

Think that is much different from what the Pakistani police felt after yesterdays riots. Yeah right. S**t happens. It's not right, but it happens.

And, a phobia by definition an irrational fear. Ask residents in London, Madrid, Bali, New York, and about a hundred other cities if they fear another attack from Muslims. Irrational, hardly.

[lussi]

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^so blacks in US should also have a rational fear of whites considering how whites killed millions of blacks during slave trades? good point..

[ravage]

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@Ohioguy

Any statisticians here?

A phone in poll of Sun Readers and Sky viewers is not scientific, and probably does not reflect the views of the British public. Is the British public sympathetic to the daily violence around their troops? Yes. Do they think violent protest endanger their troops. Yes. Do they think troops, amped up after trying to control rock throwing crowds, want to give a hearty beating to the idiots thrwoing rocks? Yes. Does it mean that professional soldiers should restrain themselves and NOT issue a beating? Yes, most of the British public wants violent protesters punished, but not the way in the video.

Im no statistician but I do think even an unscientific poll is more reflective of British public opinion than your unsubstantiated claims.

TV surveys are a statistically valid reflection of a large part of the UK, especially where the difference is 70 30 or thereabouts. They’re called unscientific because you cant project it onto the whole of the UK, presumably because its a skewed sample. But to suggest that it doesnt reflect the UK public’s sentiments at all is not very scientific of you.

Think that is much different from what the Pakistani police felt after yesterdays riots. Yeah right. S**t happens. It’s not right, but it happens.

And, a phobia by definition an irrational fear. Ask residents in London, Madrid, Bali, New York, and about a hundred other cities if they fear another attack from Muslims. Irrational, hardly.

Yeh, one could list another 100 cities where Muslims live in rational fear of arrests by CIA and random bombings on weddings.

[Seminole]

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@CM

Right Sem...those poor kids were a threat to full armed trained military soliders within their own base?

Wow...you are just as blind as the day i left.

I was talking about the English pulling together, not the soldiers. You are just as smug and clueless as ever.

[Ohioguy]

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So Ravage, any phone-in poll done by Fox, or poll done by the Republican party is reflective of US society because it is a "big part".

Then Bush has a solid majority behind him. :)

[ravage]

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doesnt he? Are you suggesting that a fox news poll has no reflection at all on the American public, or do you suppose it is incorrect to suggest that a large part of america does back Bush? Whether or not that is the majority or not you cannot say NOR did I suggest that. I specifically said you cannot project that to the whole of UK here:

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They're called unscientific because you cant project it onto the whole of the UK, presumably because its a skewed sample. But to suggest that it doesnt reflect the UK public's sentiments at all is not very scientific of you.

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It can be rightfully said, without statistically misleading anyone that a large part of the UK public does back this brutality, assuming that this is a leading national daily. you're projecting the results onto the readership, which we are saying is fairly large. If it is a leading national daily then you're agreeing that enough nutcases exist as to make it a leading newspaper.

Whereas you in saying

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Yes, most of the British public wants violent protesters punished, but not the way in the video.

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are just pulling stuff out of your ass. There is absolutely no basis for saying that, not even a skewed poll. Which I found ironic considering your also extolling the virtues of statistical accuracy in the same breath.