cant move on and super confused

hi, i m one of the silent readers on gupshup.. i have no idea why i m sitting down and posting down my problematic, entangled, mishaped story out here though i dont depend on anyone to decide things for me from the very beginning, probably just want to vent it all out. pls be patient as i guess this post is going to be a long one.

i was going out with a guy for almost 2 years. we met through facebook for a friend’s interveiw in his office and then a month later met at a movie theatre where he bought his mamoo and sister and proposed me. we were in touch in that one month over phone and mails as he was outstation. there on we started going out. he was supposed to be engaged to a girl but he refused and told his parents abt me. his dad and my dad lived in the same area as kids back home so we were very happy that eventually we wud end up getting married. though our family status were parellel, for my family we hardly made both ends meet and his family was a different ball game alltogether. but it didnt matter to him nor his mom but his dad was against us as my father doesnt hold a very good repute in the society as he is into drinking and prostitution and doesnt contribute to the family much. we are a family of 6, 2 bro’s and 2 sis with me being the eldest. I started working at the age of 15 due the financial unstability in the family.

Most of my mom’s is based here itself her elder sister, brother and a younger sister. For each and everything my mom runs down to her sisters to take any opionion or decide anything as we used to have alot of fights at our house and all these ppl were always called upon to tame things down, for the kids. I being the eldest was actively involved in everything and always ensured they stayed together as the rest of the kids were too young to go through the parent’s seperation trauma but eventually they broke up came back, khulla, lots and lots of drama. anyway coming back to this alliance, it was just too perfect for our family He met my mom at my annual corporate event. Did all he could for me enduring the way my mom spoke to him the first time. He wept infront of me saying “is this the way she is going to treat her future son-in-law i have no intentions to play games around I sincerely want you to be a part of my life”. My mom portrayed a very rude and proud women. Anyway, all i knew was that i was the apple of his eye.. for 2 years he never let me get into cabs.. he was always there to pick me drop me make him ..have my lunch..do groceries with me when my mom was outstation.. he took care of everything not only that but also my mom’s family. If ever my khala’s or extended family were coming from the UK or states he would personally cook for them whtever they like and attend all their “naaz nakhras”. My mom discussed abt this guy with her elder sister and she was like guys r this and tht he is rich must be playing around with your daughter and all if he’s serious ask him to get a rishta. i told this guy, lets call him “A” everything and he was going for hajj at that time - this was november 2010. I told him your parents need to call my mother else she will get me married off to another guy he somehow managed fought, argued but at the end his mom called my mom. we had recently shifted into the area where he stayed. his mother called and said “bachay toh bachay hain aap aayain ya hum aayain baat toh aik he hai to that my mom replied abhi mein thora busy hoon kitchen ban rha hai hamara inshallah call karoongi aapko” that was dead end she never called cuz her elder sister had filled her ears that they would trouble your daughter since you guys are middle class and the source of income would go and i was 80% taking care of kids school dues, monthly house rent and all that. anyway it all died down with time but “A” and i were keen on what we wanted from our lives. we travelled together to attend my eldest khala’s son’s wedding and he had to attend his cousin’s. i met his mom and she really liked me. i travelled with his family (without his dad accompanying us) and we came back with his younger bro. My khala’s son despite detting married potrayed unsual gestures at the wedding and told me he really liked me and wants us to be together (it was his love marriage) and subside his wedding he wants to “carry” our relationship. I told “A” everything and he din let me stay back in pak and got our tkts done the next day and we came back. Ever since then we always kept fighting. This happened in Feb 2011. I was going through alot as “A” was tormenting me at one end(as he thought i m not trying enough to persuade my mom to call his mom) and at the other end i was facing the politics played amongst mom,her sister and that cousin.

“A” started to think i have got something to do with my cousin that y i keep arguing with him but the fact was i was myself going through **** and mom’s sister din like her daughter - in - law and wanted her son to divorce her and get him married to me. All this was too much to digest and top of that i couldnt take “A” being upset with me i walked over twice to his place on roads cried yelled and threw his pic, and the ring he had gifted him on his face. I know i was wrong then. he took me in his car cried i creid too and told him i just want us to be together but he was in a different frame of mind as some mutual family friend’s were poisoning his mind abt me wanting to marry tht cousin and my mom also wanting the same. When it was not like that. eventually i ended up running over roads the next day too yelling over the phone with him telling him to come see me i m outside his house when he kept begging me i will call you later i m with my mom but i had lost my mind in anger. his mom heard me and him yelling and sent him with his sister to drop me back to my house.

once he did that, we kept texting eachother that night his mom made up her mind that she wont get us married and slapped him. too much drama at their place. his father was in germany. once he came back she told him everything. i had completely crashed by then he still spoke to him once or twice in a week. came to pick me up once too. but he had told me its over btw us and as u know mom was the only one who supported us now what can i do u made my life a misery and urs too she is a cancer patient i have no hold over anything now. i kept telling myself things r sour with time everything would fall in place. Unfortunately it din. He was flying to pak in june 2011 and told me hs goin as his mom is very sick just four days later he got his nikkah done as his mother was in ICU and begged him to do so. Prior his nikkah he din see the girl m sure abt tht cuz his sister used to b a very gud friend of mine and told me “A” is going through **** on BP tablets and colestrol. he came back 2 days after his nikkah when his family stayed back as he was planned to get married in november 2011.

We remained in touch on and off till november. He came back in december and then again texted me. his wife never came to kuwait as we have a ban implied since past 3 years as per kuwait law and it is still active. they have been married almost 8 months now. we never met after march 2011. but recently he did call me to meet, he’s been normal now as i moved out of my family and live seperately since december 2011. i told him tht. i did control myself and din break down but he started crying seeing me after almost an year. we did skype several times since then he told me whtever happened in detail and tht his wife knows just a lill bit abt me. He hasnt been actively involved with his wife as she has never been here and he seldom travels to pak.

I really dont know where this is going to land up nor do i expect anything, I just feel we were made for eachother and he has not been over me as ever since he knew i have moved out he wanted to see if i was okay. know where i m located and i m safe or no. this isnt normal i know but i havent been able to say no to meet him. we met second time too and this time it was with our mutual friends.

he cannot be a father, which only i and his mother know. He has been going through alot too and his wife told her mother tht he hasnt been physical with her how he should have been. Now the thing is spread in the entire susral she is staying with her parents now. I have no idea wht to do and i feel i m playing with fire. Bygones are bygones but somewhere deep down i know he is the man i love and he is not over me.

what should i do ! i know i lost him due to my over possessiveness and uncontrollable anger. But what is going on now. I am not able to get wht is in his mind.

PS :- i know i might have missed on alot of things like y i moved out and all but it was just to keep it as short as i cud :slight_smile:

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Re: cant move on and super confused

Hi, I always wait for your post.
Silent readers are the best with hard core issue.

Re: cant move on and super confused

Good one :biggthumb:

Re: cant move on and super confused

what is it that you want to do?
is it over with him or is there a chance that he will end his current marriage and rekindle his relationship with you?

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I m not forcing him to do anything of that sort from my end neither do i intend to break his marriage but from the looks of it i dont think it wud last any longer. Perhaps he doesnt come out bluntly and say anything as well. I dont know whats in his mind. as far as i m concerned, For now i m just concentrating on my biz but all these thoughts of wht's next now never leave me alone :/

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again i wud say just from the look's of it i'd say it wudnt last long. I dont know wht he wants and intends to do

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then I would suggest that you have a serious conversation with him and find out precisely what it is that he is thinking.....

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You guys need to clear this up...soon.

If he has no intention of breaking his marriage...you need to leave him alone so he can work it out with his wife.

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Thanks Muzna and reha.

Well i actually already did discuss with him abt his future along his wife. But he is all messed up for now so i just left him alone to sort things out maybe he's freaked out at me being blunt as i told him i m open for any proposals which come up and act very bold and not tht rona dhona type i cant live without you and i want you back crap. Though i do want him back somewhere but things seem to be too complicated for now.

He did tell me he doesnt wish to continue with his wife. But those are just words i dont want to fall for anything as off now im just confused cuz he isnt clear. actions do speak louder than words. I want him to "practically" show wht he says.

He isnt very good at expressing & discussing things. I dont know how to move forward with things for now. Just wanted advise, whtever i m doing as off now isit okay or is their a better way to deal with this situation..

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Your placed in a very complicated situation but your a brave girl :k: .. WOW, you went through a lot!!!.. I would suggest you to talk to him about his future plans. Are you even in the picture? Love hurts like shhhh … lol… If you are not in his future planning then you should find a husband for yourself so you can live happily ever after… Good job with no rohna dohna…

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You need to stop interacting with him now, full stop. It's good that you've handled this maturely, and told him to sort his own life out, but you can't hang around waiting to be someone's bit on the side.
Go spend time with your family and live your own life now.

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He is married. So until and unless he leaves his wife you should not be talking to him. Move on!

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Firstly, you need to stop all contact with him while he's married. Whatever issues he and his wife are having, they need to sort it out WITHOUT you in the picture. Just put yourself in his wifes shoes. How would you feel if your husband was keeping in touch with his ex-gf and sharing personal details about your marriage with her? Treat others the way you want to be treated.

Secondly, you need to wake up from this fantasy world you're living in. Even if he divorces his wife and marries you, what makes you so sure that your marriage with him will be happy? His family (especially his dad) has never been willing to accept you as their bahu. Your family also has issues with him. Your father doesn't contribute to the family, and you're the eldest with several younger siblings. Which means someday your mother will most likely need help.

Add to all this....the guy can't have children. So knowing this, are you 100% sure that your'e ok with NEVER having biological children? Just like his current wife/her family.....what will happen when your family finds this out? How will they react then?

With all the past drama between the families, and this "secret" that he can't have biological kids (something your parents are not aware of so far) will only add fuel to the fire. I'm honestly baffled as to how you think you can have a HAPPY marriage with all this drama involved in this situation.

If I were you, I'd just move on. Yes I know that's easier said than done. I understand you're in a bad situation, and have gotten very attached to this guy over the years. But as you have already learned, making decisions based on emotions doesn't lead to anything good. Yes it's painful but you need to start thinking logically. Cut off all contact with him period. If he insists on continuing contact, tell him that you will notify his wife and family he doesn't stop. And then you need to focus on moving on with your life.

You've already dealt with plenty of bad things in your own family situation due to your father's behavior. I'm sure your life has been full of bad memories and stress and tension due to it. Do not enter into a marriage that only adds to your stress and family drama.

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move on…:biggthumb:

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Thanks mate. Will keep that in mind the next i get in terms with him :slight_smile:

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My friend, first and foremost i would like to thank you for your input and giving ur time.
Now the thing is i m not and do not want to get into picture as well, he and his wife u know wht i mean. I havent told him i want him back neither am i looking forward much towards it as i want to see his efforts first. I have had my fair share so i m not up for any indian soap drama as off now. I m going realy slow and steady.

I missed mentioning, even he has moved out like i have from his family and lives alone now. I didnt bother asking him where he lives and all but he did tell me the reasons. The only thing he did discuss his married life is perhaps he feels guilt concious ??? thts wht i can figure out but nevertheless, Alhumdulillah i have enough options already to get married but thts not something i want to do as off now. My parents have no say in the decisions i make as i m totally independent in all aspects. its like i choose a guy i arrange everything my end and invite them. i have actually sat down and given it a thought that if he leaves her for no good reason apart from just not loving her, cuz getting married was his choice at the end of the day..maybe he can do something of tht kind when he settles down with me too as i do not have family to stand up for me.

Yeah i m attached to him, But as ppl say time heals everything, I have got alot more patience and that ache has died down with the passing time. I am being alot more logical than being emotional at the moment and depending on facts for now.

You are absolutely right i dont want alot more misery while giving a start to a new phase in life. Just finger's crossed. hoping for the best let's see what Allah SWT has destined for me.

Thanks alot dudette :)

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OMG YOU TWO, JUST MARRY PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEE O_O
I SO WANT YOU GUYS TO MARRY!! uffffff like RIGHT NOW

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and since you are independent now, just ask him to marry you. become his second wife, so what? he'll eventually leave the other woman. And and he cries for you. barely any man does that for a woman. and you only get one lifetime...and you have every right to chose the person you want to live with, and this is such an emotional story.!
just marry him. THATS IT ! you'll never be happy with any other person

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NO, HER MOTHER HAS BEEN SO SELFISH!! SHE SAW HER DAUGHTER NOTHING MORE THAN A MONEY BANK, while her guy did EVERYTHING to please her mom.
think of yourself girl, and marry him. YOU TWO ARE MADE FOR EACHOTHER. IT CANT BE MORE OBVIOUS

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haha Riday really after reading this i was smiling, R u being sarcastic by any chance ??:P. Sweety, I dont want to b the second one. I want to b the only one. The time has past by and nothing can be retreived trust me nothing once gone is gone. We can probably try to fix it. Yes he is different not like tom, dick and harry guys he din get physical and all. His love WAS worth it. I m just hoping things work out the best for both of us. As far as families are concerned, HE and myself arent bothered much. I have contributed enoughh.

:) I never expected so many ppl wud even bother replying. I feel so good now