Anyone has current poll results?
Any websites on Elections?
CBC http://www.cbc.ca/canadavotes
Globe and Mail poll results: http://www.globeandmail.com/special/federalelection/Decision2004.html#poll Very interesting link. Scroll all the way to the right, to see the “dead heat” between the Liberals and the Conservatives.
Each party’s stance on different issues (done by the Globe and Mail): http://www.globeandmail.com/special/federalelection/Decision2004.html#welcome
Elections Canada Online Elections Canada - Home Page
Links to all the registered political parties & their websites Registered Political Parties and Parties Eligible for Registration – Elections Canada
Always make sure Muslim media watches keep an eye on the statements politicians make. It is always better to rally up a block vote for someone who is pro Muslim than anti Muslim and to lobby support in political circles.
Canada's Election
Salam
I'm not much into politics ,but cause of election time in canada you can't help to notice a thing or two about political race. just flipping thorugh channels happen to airing debate between four candidates
Paul Martin
Steven Harper
Jack Layton
Gilles Duceppe
Man harper ripped this martin guy
and layton blasted both harper and martin
any views ? about any of this stuff
here is a good article about Steven Harper and upcoming elections
By NAOMI KLEIN
Tuesday, June 15, 2004
Globe and Mail - Page A21
In Baghdad, every encounter we had was a bit like going through
customs.
"American?" was the inevitable first question.
"No, no, Canadian," our over-eager reply.
Sometimes our word wasn't good enough and our interrogators wanted
proof.
We'd pull out our passports for inspection.
On their faces, you could often see a cloud of rage pass over. Women
would sometimes let themselves smile. Kids would stop acting like
mini-commandos and run off and play.
Don't get me wrong: Canadians aren't loved in Iraq; we just aren't,
so far as I could tell, actively loathed.
So it's wrenching being back in Canada confronting the prospect of
Stephen Harper as our next prime minister. This is a man who so
longed to join George W. Bush's coalition of the willing that he
called former defence minister John McCallum an "idiot" in the House
of Commons, declaring we should be in Iraq with the United
States, "doing everything necessary to win." This is a man who was so
eager to "support the war effort" that he went on Fox and claimed
that "the silent majority of Canadians is strongly supportive" of the
invasion, defying the findings of every credible opinion poll.
If the Conservatives are given the chance to turn Canada into more of
a card-carrying combatant in Mr. Bush's disastrous war on terrorism
than we are already, the little bit of grace I encountered in Iraq
will quickly disappear. When I go back, showing my passport to the ad
hoc inspectors could well have a very different effect.
I was in Iraq in April, at a pivotal moment when the United States
decided to wage two pre-emptive wars within a pre-emptive war, one
against the resistance in Fallujah, the other against Muqtada al-Sadr
in Najaf and Sadr City. The Los Angeles Times estimates that 800
Iraqis have been killed in the past nine weeks of U.S. attacks on
Sadr City, even more than the 600 estimated to have died in the siege
on Fallujah.
As mosques were desecrated, prisoners tortured and children killed, I
witnessed George Bush's awesome enemy-manufacturing machine up close.
Hatred of Americans soared, not just in Iraq but also in neighbouring
countries.
The retaliation began immediately: a wave of kidnappings of
foreigners, now so common they barely make the news. The change in
mood was palpable.
Anti-Americanism was no longer a sentiment; it was an uncontrollable
force of nature. Being Canadian didn't let us off the hook; we were
still part of an ugly invasion of foreign soldiers, contractors and
journalists traipsing through the country and taking what wasn't
ours: lives, jobs, oil, stories, photographs. The kidnappers didn't
usually discriminate based on nationality.
But being Canadian, or more specifically, not being American, did
sometimes open up a little window. It gave people who were suffering
permission to glimpse the humanity behind our nationality. And the
overwhelming majority of Iraqis I met -- even, miraculously, those
who had just lost children and spouses to U.S. weapons -- were
profoundly grateful for that reprieve, relieved not to have to hate.
I, of course, was even more grateful, since being not-American kept
me out of serious danger more than once.
It is a privilege not to be hated for your nationality, and we should
not relinquish it lightly. George Bush has denied that privilege to
his own people, and Stephen Harper would cavalierly strip it from
Canadians by erasing what few small but important differences remain
between Canadian and U.S. foreign policy. The danger posed by this
act is not just about whether Canadians are safe when we travel to
the Middle East. The hatred that Mr. Bush is manufacturing there, for
the United States and its coalition partners, is already following
the soldiers home.
I have felt that hatred in Iraq, and trust me: We don't want to
experience it here in Canada. Or don't trust me, trust the citizens
of Spain, who decided in their March elections that they are not
willing to accept the blowback from George Bush's wars, that they
don't want these multiplying enemies to be their enemies too. Or the
citizens of the United Kingdom, who just battered Tony Blair's Labour
Party in last week's local elections, furious at being dragged into a
war that has made them less safe. Or the citizens of Australia, who
are about to send the same message to John Howard. Or even the
citizens of the United States, 55 per cent of whom now disapprove of
Mr. Bush's performance in Iraq, according to a recent Los Angles
Times poll.
Yet just as the rest of the world is finally saying "no more,"
Canadians are poised to elect a party that is saying "me too."
The hawks in Washington like to paint Canada as a freeloader,
mooching off their expensive military protection, the continent's
weak link on terrorism. The truth is that around the world, it is
blind government complicity with U.S. foreign policy, precisely the
kind of complicity advocated by Mr. Harper, that is putting civilians
in the line of terror. It is the United States that is the weak link.
Before I went to Iraq, a seasoned war correspondent who had spent a
year reporting from Baghdad gave me his best piece of security
advice. "Stay away from Americans, they're bad for your health." He
wasn't being anti-American (he's an American citizen and supported
the war); he was just being practical. In Iraq, that advice means you
don't want to ride in the U.S. convoys or embed with U.S. troops. You
keep your distance and stay independent. At this perilous moment in
history, the same principle applies at home: Canadian security
depends on our ability to maintain meaningful sovereignty from the
United States. Being inside the U.S. security fortress isn't a
missile shield, it's a missile magnet.
As long as the United States continues to act as a global aggressor,
the best way for us to stay healthy is to stay as far away as from
Americans as possible.
With 8,890 kilometres of shared border, geographical distance is not
an option. Fortunately, political distance still is. Let's not
surrender it.Naomi Klein is the author of No Logo and Fences and
Windows.
i am so confused now.. i want to vote NDP, but voting for them is like wasting my vote. since conservative will join in and win th elections. and i dont like harper. i am sick of liberals and their broken promises..
what to do? :(
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*Originally posted by suroor_ca02: *
i am so confused now.. i want to vote NDP, but voting for them is like wasting my vote. since conservative will join in and win th elections. and i dont like harper. i am sick of liberals and their broken promises..
what to do? :(
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you tell me :(
or you can vote for the green party :-)
Given the fact that the western Canada will vote en block for Conservatives, I am going to hold my nose and vote liberal and hope for a minority government.
Re: Canada's Election
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*Originally posted by High-Tech: *
**Salam
I'm not much into politics ,but cause of election time in canada you can't help to notice a thing or two about political race. just flipping thorugh channels happen to airing debate between four candidates
Paul Martin
Steven Harper
Jack Layton
Gilles Duceppe
Man harper ripped this martin guy
and layton blasted both harper and martin
any views ? about any of this stuff
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Walaikum Assalaam High-Tech,
i hope you are doing well Insha'Allah. Thanks for your interesting comments. Did you watch the English-language debate, i take it ? Martin was constantly on the defensive... did you notice. i mean, he had to be, he had no choice, he was being ripped on all sides by the others. Harper, on the other hand, was very very calm and collected throughout the leadership debate - i dunno if you noticed that; he wouldn't raise his voice, literally, above the others' (except once at the very end). He kept a very calm and composed demeanour on the outside. Duceppe and Layton i think did a good job overall.
Globe and Mail today showed that Liberals have picked up a few points in a poll...Harper's attack on Martin and Layton as supporting child pornography, was totally wrong and immature.... and counter-productive! i mean, that's coming on the heels of what happened in Toronto with that ten year old girl... he's politicizing a very deeply-felt issue... you should never use murder cases for your political ends. Totally unjustifiable. Khair - and couple that with Alberta Premier Ralph Klein's comments very recently hinting at a two-tiered healthcare system - i think stuff like that may help the Liberals.
Anyways my family and i voted already yesterday (advance voting). We all voted for the NDP.
^^
Canadian Muslim Council recommended Canada's over 600,000 muslims not to vote for conservatives and choose between liberals and ndp according to who is a better candidate for muslim viewpoint. In Quebec large North African muslim population whis is predominantly French will vote Bloc. In many cities of Quebec the percentage of muslim population is so large that they can elect a candidate they support e.g. St-Laurent 10.9% population is muslim.
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Given the fact that the western Canada will vote en block for Conservatives, I am going to hold my nose and vote liberal and hope for a minority government.
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If you don't mind my asking, do you live in western Canada?
The Muslim Council, thankfully, has made the right decision IMO. A vote for the Conservatives, is a vote for:
tighter immigration controls at the border
closer military ties with the US
entrenchment of laws that curtail civil liberties
less funding for multicultural programmes
less social funding overall - to cultural and social orgs. of all types
closer subjugation under the US over NORAD and the missile defence system
Vote for the Conservatives is basically a vote for Canada to become the US's 51st state.
I have always voted for the Liberals but this time I was thinking of voting for the Conservatives, but after recent debates and listening very closely to Steven Harper, I've come to the decision that he is just another Bush and wants to bring same kind of gov't style to Canada. NDP on the other side has programs and promises that are just too unrealistic and voting for them is like throwing away your vote. So although I am no longer a fan of the Liberals, but I dont see myself as a muslim having any choice but to vote for Paul Martin. Liberals in the west are even less popular than they are in perhaps Ontario because of what Gordon Campbell (BC Premier) has done here. People just cant wait for him to lose and depart, which aint going to happen till next year by the way.
Elections in Canada are serious stuff:
Pot-Smoking Dominatrix Jumps Into Election
Thu Jun 24,11:03 AM ET Add Oddly Enough - Reuters to My Yahoo!
OTTAWA (Reuters) - After a two-year stint delivering papers to Canadian senators, Marijuana Party candidate and career dominatrix Carol Taylor said she has entered the political arena to help ease people’s pain.
Taylor, who says she smokes marijuana to cope with a painful neurological disorder, has whipped up excitement in her Ottawa district, despite being given little chance of beating the incumbent Liberal Party candidate in the June 28 election.
Her campaign workers left postcard leaflets on Wednesday in mailboxes featuring Taylor with one breast exposed under the banner “Can the cannabis crackdown.”
She is fighting to legalize the use of marijuana for medicinal and personal use. The Liberals proposed a bill to decriminalize the personal use of pot but the proposal died when the election was called on May 23.
“This is the only political platform with which I have ever been in total agreement,” Taylor says on her Marijuana Party Web site.
The Liberals under Prime Minister Paul Martin are in a close race against the Conservatives, who are generally not in favor of easing up on illegal drugs.
Taylor was a Senate page shuttling paper to and from lawmakers in the early 1990s and since then has worked in a Montreal “dungeon” as a dominatrix.
“I can’t believe Elections Canada allows this kind of stuff. I’m not uptight but I can see how some people would consider this to be pornographic,” one Senate employee said. “I’m shocked, and a little aroused.”
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If you don't mind my asking, do you live in western Canada?
The Muslim Council, thankfully, has made the right decision IMO. A vote for the Conservatives, is a vote for:
tighter immigration controls at the border
closer military ties with the US
entrenchment of laws that curtail civil liberties
less funding for multicultural programmes
less social funding overall - to cultural and social orgs. of all types
closer subjugation under the US over NORAD and the missile defence system
Vote for the Conservatives is basically a vote for Canada to become the US's 51st state.
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No I live in Quebec.
fittay moonh..i cant decide hence green party it is! legalize marijuana!
Anyone but Harper. Voting NDP for national is a waste of my vote, because NDP is stealing all the Liberal votes.
Sigh, once again the election will be determined by Ontario. Canada is Ontario, and all the seats are from there.
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fittay moonh..i cant decide hence green party it is! legalize marijuana!
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greens wont legalize marijuana - we have another party for that: marijuana party of canada
lets face it people, cons are kicking liberal butt this time around
http://www.cbc.ca/stories/2004/06/23/advanpol040623
**Sharp rise in advance voting **
OTTAWA - Canadians have poured into advance polling stations compared to last election, with Elections Canada recording a 60 per cent increase in the number of voters casting their ballots.
More than 1.2 million people voted in the advance polls on Friday, Saturday and Monday, Elections Canada reported.
In the 2000 federal election, 775,000 voted in advance.